From edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com Sun Sep 6 12:52:17 2009 From: edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com (Thomas Edison) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:52:17 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Low serial number Edison home. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My early Edison home is number H1265, last patent date is June 30, 1893. (This still probably dates from around 1897). This machine has the lift lever rest on the left side, and a brass mandrel, cast iron drive pully on the bottom, not skelital topworks, Originally had the weighted feed nut, but changed carrages, because the weight was very corroded and rusty. The on and off lever presses on the governor pad, instead of having it's own The govorner weights are brass. It is a very smooth working machine, plays very well. Shawn Borri _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 From msprinzen at juno.com Sun Sep 6 13:51:34 2009 From: msprinzen at juno.com (Merle Sprinzen) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:51:34 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Commercial - new record auction now available Message-ID: <20090906.201200.5036.5.msprinzen@juno.com> Hi Tom -- I don't think I ever received a pdf of your current auction. Would you mind, please, sending one along to me? Thanks! Merle On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:47:39 -0700 "Hawthorn's Antique Audio" writes: > Hi Everyone, > > Our newest mail auction list #128 - "Just Another Auction" - is now > available. 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Visit our web site and turn to the "What's New" page for > more information. > > Thanks! > > Tom Hawthorn > Hawthorn's Antique Audio > 77 Columbia Ave. > Roseville, CA 95678 > Phone/Fax: (916) 773-4727 > www.thoseoldrecords.com > hawthorn at thoseoldrecords.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ____________________________________________________________ Health Insurance Deals Get free online quotes on self employed health insurance - Save 30%! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=uPFfZX8USAFu7Hz0yl2bkAAAJ1D2EGWQJgc2Zfu3rGBZpu80AAQAAAAFAAAAALrWjz4AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAElBWAAAAAA== From msprinzen at juno.com Mon Sep 7 08:19:49 2009 From: msprinzen at juno.com (msprinzen at juno.com) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 15:19:49 GMT Subject: [Phono-L] Concerned about Mikiphone instruction booklet Message-ID: <20090907.111949.21534.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com> I'm quite suspicious about this instruction booklet: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290347181353 I believe this is one of the reproductions of an original booklet that Jalal Aro made a few years ago. I've asked the seller to send me a photo of the back cover -- that's where it would be clear that Jalal made it, and you'll notice that only this page is missing from the seller's photos. Also, the seller's description does not make any claim about it being original, but doesn't say it isn't, either. And... Jalal told me that this seller had asked for a few of the booklets and he gave them to him. So, bid with caution unless you're knowingly interested in one of these reproductions, which are really quite nice! 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And $15 postage for a few sheets of paper! -- Bill Burns Long Island NY USA http://ftldesign.com From chrisk33 at cox.net Mon Sep 7 21:56:46 2009 From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 00:56:46 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable Message-ID: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? Best, Chris From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 8 13:00:32 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:00:32 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> Message-ID: <29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> How about coating it with shellac? It would add stiffness and maybe improve function. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kocsis Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? Best, Chris _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From steve_noreen at msn.com Tue Sep 8 14:49:07 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:49:07 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Low serial number Edison home. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: According to the Paul article H1265 is from August 1897. What reproducer do you have? Steve > My early Edison home is number H1265, last patent date is June 30, 1893. From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 18:02:47 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn Message-ID: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question? - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia?among other palces, as I recall.? This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? Item number is 390091033931. Thanks John Robles From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 18:17:22 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Update on blue horn Message-ID: <384730.42416.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just received a note form a collector friend in Australia about the blue horn. he says: "Hi I have been collecting Edisons since 1978, in that time I have owned 2 blue cygnet horns, a couple of blue Gem horns and 3 green gem horns, I have not had or seen this shape horn in blue. The blue horns we had were a pale blue, this one seems to dark. It looks to me as if the paint has run onto the one decal which suggests it has been repainted." ? Still interested in hearing what you have to say, but not as likely to buy it til I study some more! Thanks John Robles PS To those who were so kind as to purchase my last C, I just released a new one! It is available on my website, www.chucumite.com. From seymorepots at hotmail.com Tue Sep 8 18:21:17 2009 From: seymorepots at hotmail.com (s.l. rexrode) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:21:17 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John,I am not aware of the blue export horns you mention / although I'm notdoubting it. It is hard to tell from the photographs on ebay, but if you lookclosely at the top of the patent date decal...there appears to be some black paint around the top edge (as if it were originally painted black). How can one tell if the blue paint is under a scratched decal and not simply a drip on top of the decal from a repaint? For what it's worth and judging by the conditionof the rest of the horn...I'm guessing it has been repainted.Lee Lee Rexrode(a collector of phonos and horns since 1990) > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > Hello all > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > Item number is 390091033931. > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 From steve_noreen at msn.com Tue Sep 8 18:41:24 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) Steve > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > Hello all > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > Item number is 390091033931. > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 18:52:27 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <132752.74265.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's a link to what is supposed to be a real blue morning glory horn. I think it could be. http://www.worldofgramophones.com/cylindermachines.html --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Steven Medved wrote: From: Steven Medved Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn To: "Phono-l" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:41 PM John, It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline.? I agree with Lee.? (He is very skilled in this area) Steve > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > Hello all > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question? - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall.? This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > Item number is 390091033931. > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From russridley at shaw.ca Tue Sep 8 18:54:32 2009 From: russridley at shaw.ca (Russel Ridley) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:54:32 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <572034587771770d32456c491af73e81@shaw.ca> I have an all original blue Gem horn. The seams are painted gold as found on other Edison horns. the blue horn on Ebay hasn't any gold paint on the seams from what I can see. From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 19:04:03 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: <572034587771770d32456c491af73e81@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <295083.81813.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very apt, I hadn't even thought of that. Amazing how you can collect machines for more than 20 years and still miss little things!! --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Russel Ridley wrote: From: Russel Ridley Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:54 PM I have an all original blue Gem horn. The seams are painted gold as found on other Edison horns. the blue horn on Ebay hasn't any gold paint on the seams from what I can see. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From appywander at hotmail.com Tue Sep 8 19:06:38 2009 From: appywander at hotmail.com (John Maeder) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 22:06:38 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: <572034587771770d32456c491af73e81@shaw.ca> References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <572034587771770d32456c491af73e81@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Here is a link to a photo of an original blue export horn that Kurt Nauck had for sale at the Lutheran Church sale in Elgin last June: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6163/blueexporthorn.jpg John M > From: russridley at shaw.ca > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:54:32 -0700 > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > I have an all original blue Gem horn. > > The seams are painted gold as found on other Edison horns. > > the blue horn on Ebay hasn't any gold paint on the seams from what I > can see. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From andersun at tampabay.rr.com Tue Sep 8 18:56:20 2009 From: andersun at tampabay.rr.com (andersun at tampabay.rr.com) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 1:56:20 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090909015621.PJ9CG.226623.root@hrndva-web09-z01> John, This horn was originally a black Edison 11 panel "Thomas A. Edison Home" signature label on it. The blue paint job was painted over the black with a terrible attempt to mask off the original decals. I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole! Edison did sell blue horns but they were signature labeled as "Thomas A. Edison Standard" horns and were 10 panel with flowers painted on the interior. One can be seen here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/collection3/standarde.htm Thanks, Steve Andersen http://www.theedisonshop.com ---- "s.l. rexrode" wrote: > > John,I am not aware of the blue export horns you mention / although I'm notdoubting it. It is hard to tell from the photographs on ebay, but if you lookclosely at the top of the patent date decal...there appears to be some black paint around the top edge (as if it were originally painted black). How can one tell if the blue paint is under a scratched decal and not simply a drip on top of the decal from a repaint? For what it's worth and judging by the conditionof the rest of the horn...I'm guessing it has been repainted.Lee Lee Rexrode(a collector of phonos and horns since 1990) > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > Hello all > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > Item number is 390091033931. > > Thanks > > John Robles > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. > http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 19:15:36 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <342679.60922.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What a beauty!! --- On Tue, 9/8/09, John Maeder wrote: From: John Maeder Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:06 PM Here is a link to a photo of an original blue export horn that Kurt Nauck had for sale at the Lutheran Church sale in Elgin last June: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6163/blueexporthorn.jpg John M > From: russridley at shaw.ca > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:54:32 -0700 > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > I have an all original blue Gem horn. > > The seams are painted gold as found on other Edison horns. > > the blue horn on Ebay hasn't any gold paint on the seams from what I > can see. > > >??? > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jackwhelan at hotmail.com Tue Sep 8 19:19:00 2009 From: jackwhelan at hotmail.com (Jack Whelan) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 02:19:00 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, I have to agree with the consensus here. The horn looks painted, certainly not an Edison blue color. These original blue horns are in fact quite rare. If you'd like to see the blue horn owned by Charley Hummel, check out my videos: 1. "Dinner at Charley Hummels April 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 00:49 Also: 2. "The Halloween Theme MME Oct 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 03:50 and also at 05:18 and you'll see the horn; click the pause button for a better look. Have fun, Jack Whelan PhonoJack.com > From: steve_noreen at msn.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > John, > > It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. > > I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) > > Steve > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > Hello all > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > Item number is 390091033931. > > Thanks > > John Robles > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 From jackwhelan at hotmail.com Tue Sep 8 19:23:58 2009 From: jackwhelan at hotmail.com (Jack Whelan) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 02:23:58 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn, Opps, the correct link is... In-Reply-To: References: <375041.18915.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Opps, the correct link to the first video is: http://phonojack.com/gallery/MME-04-08b.wmv and slide the time up to 00:49 > From: jackwhelan at hotmail.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 02:19:00 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > John, > > > > I have to agree with the consensus here. The horn looks painted, certainly not an Edison blue color. These original blue horns are in fact quite rare. If you'd like to see the blue horn owned by Charley Hummel, check out my videos: > > 1. "Dinner at Charley Hummels April 2008" at: http://phonojack.com/gallery/MME-04-08b.wmv and slide the time up to 00:49 (not: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv) and slide the time up to 00:49 > > > > Also: > > 2. "The Halloween Theme MME Oct 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 03:50 and also at 05:18 and you'll see the horn; click the pause button for a better look. > > Have fun, > > > > Jack Whelan > > PhonoJack.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: steve_noreen at msn.com > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > > > John, > > > > It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. > > > > I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) > > > > Steve > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > > > Hello all > > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > > Item number is 390091033931. > > > Thanks > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. > http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 19:27:12 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <266011.97073.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WOW what a fabulous Hallowe'en video!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful horn too.?I didn't bother searching because I was too entranced by the video and I watched form the beginning!!! John --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Jack Whelan wrote: From: Jack Whelan Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn To: "Phono-L" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:19 PM John, I have to agree with the consensus here. The horn looks painted, certainly not an Edison blue color.? These original blue horns are in fact quite rare.? If you'd like to see the blue horn owned by Charley Hummel, check out my videos: 1. "Dinner at Charley Hummels April 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv???and slide the time up to 00:49 Also: 2.? "The Halloween Theme MME Oct 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 03:50 and also at 05:18 and you'll see the horn; click the pause button for a better look. Have fun, Jack Whelan PhonoJack.com > From: steve_noreen at msn.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > John, > > It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. > > I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) > > Steve > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > Hello all > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > Item number is 390091033931. > > Thanks > > John Robles > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Sep 8 19:28:52 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <357555.8773.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> By the way - they're both the same video! --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Jack Whelan wrote: From: Jack Whelan Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn To: "Phono-L" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:19 PM John, I have to agree with the consensus here. The horn looks painted, certainly not an Edison blue color.? These original blue horns are in fact quite rare.? If you'd like to see the blue horn owned by Charley Hummel, check out my videos: 1. "Dinner at Charley Hummels April 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv???and slide the time up to 00:49 Also: 2.? "The Halloween Theme MME Oct 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 03:50 and also at 05:18 and you'll see the horn; click the pause button for a better look. Have fun, Jack Whelan PhonoJack.com > From: steve_noreen at msn.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > John, > > It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. > > I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) > > Steve > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > Hello all > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > Item number is 390091033931. > > Thanks > > John Robles > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Wed Sep 9 11:19:16 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn, Opps, the correct link is... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <430990.46700.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have that horn shown in the video. It is on my Model E Standard. It's the only decorated blue horn that Edison manufactured for the domestic market, to the best of my knowledge. This horn is unique to the Model E Standard 1911. I too, looked at the ebay listing and this is obviously a repaint. BTW, nice collection, Charley. - Harvey Kravitz --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Jack Whelan wrote: From: Jack Whelan Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn, Opps, the correct link is... To: "Phono-L" Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:23 PM Opps, the correct link to the first video is: http://phonojack.com/gallery/MME-04-08b.wmv and slide the time up to 00:49 > From: jackwhelan at hotmail.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 02:19:00 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > John, > > > > I have to agree with the consensus here. The horn looks painted, certainly not an Edison blue color. These original blue horns are in fact quite rare. If you'd like to see the blue horn owned by Charley Hummel, check out my videos: > > 1. "Dinner at Charley Hummels April 2008" at: http://phonojack.com/gallery/MME-04-08b.wmv and slide the time up to 00:49 (not: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv)? and slide the time up to 00:49 > > > > Also: > > 2. "The Halloween Theme MME Oct 2008" at: http://www.phonojack.com/gallery/MME-10-11-08.wmv and slide the time up to 03:50 and also at 05:18 and you'll see the horn; click the pause button for a better look. > > Have fun, > > > > Jack Whelan > > PhonoJack.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: steve_noreen at msn.com > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:41:24 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > > > John, > > > > It looks to me like the patent decal has blue paint that ran down on it and it has a black outline. > > > > I agree with Lee. (He is very skilled in this area) > > > > Steve > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:47 -0700 > > > From: john9ten at pacbell.net > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Blue Edison Horn > > > > > > Hello all > > > I am very fascinated by a blue edison Home horn on ebay. I'd like to put it on my Triumph, though it isn't really a Triumph horn. I am captivated by the blue color. Now the question - I know Edison made blue morning glory horns for export, I think Australia among other palces, as I recall. This horn appears to be originally painted blue. There is blue paint under where the patent decal is scratched, not black paint. The pictures seem to show that it has age, and is in the same general condition of many of the black japanned horns. I am really close to buying it, but thought I wold run it up the flagpole here for your always-valued opinions. Is this the correct Edison blue?? > > > Item number is 390091033931. > > > Thanks > > > John Robles > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. > http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From maffit2 at bresnan.net Wed Sep 9 13:23:06 2009 From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:23:06 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] W. H. Taft10001FunctionOfTheNextAdministration cylinder for sale Message-ID: <002701ca318b$589e3960$09daac20$@net> Phono listers: I have 1 W. H. Taft cylinder remaining from my lot which is for sale. Click on the link below and take a listen. http://members.iquest.net/~read/Taft10001FunctionOfTheNextAdministration.wma Taft10001FunctionOfTheNextAdministration: $150.00 plus S&H If interested, E-mail me off line and we can discuss payment and shipping arrangements. Maffit2 at bresnan.net Later Bob From chrisk33 at cox.net Wed Sep 9 19:20:01 2009 From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:20:01 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: <29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> <29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> Message-ID: <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> Thank you Ron, that is splendid suggestion. If I decide to sell the player, would that affect the value? Chris Ron L'Herault wrote: > How about coating it with shellac? It would add stiffness and maybe improve > function. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Kocsis > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > > I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the > paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very > well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary > for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? > > Best, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From edisone1 at verizon.net Wed Sep 9 19:31:20 2009 From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:31:20 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> <29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> Message-ID: <67A3FE2309694BB6A06222D9CD495758@moms> Maybe try a very thinned-out mix of shellac, so it isn't too obvious. Somebody must have slopped thick shellac on my Pathe paper cone, because it's heavy & stiff as Heck and makes hardly any sound at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Kocsis" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > Thank you Ron, that is splendid suggestion. If I decide to sell the > player, would that affect the value? > > Chris > > Ron L'Herault wrote: >> How about coating it with shellac? It would add stiffness and maybe >> improve >> function. >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Chris Kocsis >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable >> >> I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the >> paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very well. >> It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary for best >> performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? >> >> Best, >> >> Chris From lherault at bu.edu Wed Sep 9 20:31:26 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:26 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net><29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> Message-ID: <9D81D17322604CA6A53BE8284FC3312F@ronlherault> I don't know. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Chris Kocsis Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:20 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable Thank you Ron, that is splendid suggestion. If I decide to sell the player, would that affect the value? Chris Ron L'Herault wrote: > How about coating it with shellac? It would add stiffness and maybe improve > function. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Kocsis > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > > I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the > paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very > well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary > for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? > > Best, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Wed Sep 9 22:20:40 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) Message-ID: <42E260EE9258469AA2D85A8089E26373@WaynePC> Sent this seller money for a Mikiphone needle tin that he was selling me OFF ebay.I never got the tin and he clains he never got the money.He was quick to email and then never heard from him but once.Kept saying he was on holidays.Then the tin never came up again!!???.First time for me.Please be careful. From mdsorter at aol.com Wed Sep 9 23:04:37 2009 From: mdsorter at aol.com (mdsorter at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:04:37 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Lyric Reproducer needed In-Reply-To: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> Message-ID: <8CBFFF3B64C4407-904-75FF@webmail-m088.sysops.aol.com> Hello everyone, I have a friend in need of a Columbia lyric reproducer.? If you can help him, please e-mail him.? See below. Mike Sorter From: rlpipitone at earthlink.net Subject: lyric reproducer To: gsphonos at yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 7:25 PM Dos anyone have a Lyric reproducer for a Columbia BK for sale? Thanks Leonard Pipitone 951-656-8273 951-295-1798? cell rlpipitone at earthlink.net _______________________________________________? Phono-L mailing list? http://phono-l.oldcrank.org? From steve_noreen at msn.com Thu Sep 10 05:25:22 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:25:22 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) In-Reply-To: <42E260EE9258469AA2D85A8089E26373@WaynePC> References: <42E260EE9258469AA2D85A8089E26373@WaynePC> Message-ID: Sounds like Gene Gogal in Canada, he is famous for his off eBay deals where he cheats people. I would use PayPal with a credit card, that way you have some protection. I sent Gene $110 cash and he happily took my money and never even thanked me, I saw on eBay that the buyer that supposedly did not want the items left him feedback for them. > From: waykos at shaw.ca > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:20:40 -0700 > Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) > > Sent this seller money for a Mikiphone needle tin that he was selling me OFF ebay.I never got the tin and he clains he never got the money.He was quick to email and then never heard from him but once.Kept saying he was on holidays.Then the tin never came up again!!???.First time for me.Please be careful. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Thu Sep 10 05:38:08 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:38:08 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] (NEEDED) TONE ARM Message-ID: Hi All,I'm looking for a European straight tappered tone arm.It needs to be 2 3/4 wide at the fat end and 9.5" long and with the end up and away from you,the 90 is to the right.It needs to have a fitting like Victor for the reproducer.It should have a little hole on either size of the fat end to mount to the back bracket.If you think you may have something that will work.please let me know. From glastris at comcast.net Thu Sep 10 06:33:36 2009 From: glastris at comcast.net (glastris at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] (NEEDED) TONE ARM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1566071151.8910281252589616433.JavaMail.root@sz0065a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I'd try asking Howard Hope in London.....I'm out of town so don't have his email address but try Googleing him....he has a website. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:38:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] (NEEDED) TONE ARM Hi All,I'm looking for a European straight tappered tone arm.It needs to be 2 3/4 wide at the fat end and 9.5" long and with the end up and away from you,the 90 is to the right.It needs to have a fitting like Victor for the reproducer.It should have a little hole on either size of the fat end to mount to the back bracket.If you think you may have something that will work.please let me know. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From RCowen at sciencenews.org Thu Sep 10 07:42:36 2009 From: RCowen at sciencenews.org (Ron Cowen) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:42:36 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) In-Reply-To: References: <42E260EE9258469AA2D85A8089E26373@WaynePC> Message-ID: <9DF641A65BBD4C4A83DE916594B788F1030089A0@Mercury.sciserv.org> After one insulting message from the seller when I asked his if this was a reproduction (he initially refused to answer, telling me with exclamation points to read and reread his description), he admitted in a second e-mail that it was a reproduction, or "an original copy" as he so obtusely put it. He then said a true original would be $750 and that his copy was a bargain--not that I'd bid anything this guy had to sell. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Medved [mailto:steve_noreen at msn.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:25 AM To: Phono-l Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) Sounds like Gene Gogal in Canada, he is famous for his off eBay deals where he cheats people. I would use PayPal with a credit card, that way you have some protection. I sent Gene $110 cash and he happily took my money and never even thanked me, I saw on eBay that the buyer that supposedly did not want the items left him feedback for them. > From: waykos at shaw.ca > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:20:40 -0700 > Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARING!!) > > Sent this seller money for a Mikiphone needle tin that he was selling me OFF ebay.I never got the tin and he clains he never got the money.He was quick to email and then never heard from him but once.Kept saying he was on holidays.Then the tin never came up again!!???.First time for me.Please be careful. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From barry at barrykasindorf.com Thu Sep 10 07:19:12 2009 From: barry at barrykasindorf.com (Barry Kasindorf) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: <9D81D17322604CA6A53BE8284FC3312F@ronlherault> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net><29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> <9D81D17322604CA6A53BE8284FC3312F@ronlherault> Message-ID: <4AA90AE0.2040003@barrykasindorf.com> A few years ago there was someone in Europe making reproductions. They had a lot of flower designs on them, don't have the person's email anymore. -Bary Ron L'Herault wrote: > I don't know. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Kocsis > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:20 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > > Thank you Ron, that is splendid suggestion. If I decide to sell the > player, would that affect the value? > > Chris > > Ron L'Herault wrote: >> How about coating it with shellac? It would add stiffness and maybe > improve >> function. >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] > On >> Behalf Of Chris Kocsis >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable >> >> I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the >> paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very >> well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary >> for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? >> >> Best, >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From wavesllc at gmail.com Thu Sep 10 09:15:31 2009 From: wavesllc at gmail.com (Charlotte Mager) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:15:31 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: <4AA90AE0.2040003@barrykasindorf.com> References: <4AA5E40E.6050402@cox.net> <29D719EFEFEC4177946284371EFFA974@ronlherault> <4AA86251.1020403@cox.net> <9D81D17322604CA6A53BE8284FC3312F@ronlherault> <4AA90AE0.2040003@barrykasindorf.com> Message-ID: There is a fellow in PA that makes excellent replica cones for radio speakers you might want to try contacting him here is a link to his web site http://www.angelfire.com/pa/conespeaker/ Good Luck Charlotte aka Waves http://www.wavesllc.com > From backden at yahoo.com Thu Sep 10 09:37:59 2009 From: backden at yahoo.com (Dennis Back) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <35797.21980.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you're thinking about a replacement one....try some poster board.? Use black or some other bland color and trace your old cone. I did this once and it works fine. Dennis From edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com Thu Sep 10 09:49:22 2009 From: edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com (Thomas Edison) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 159 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It has an automatic. > > According to the Paul article H1265 is from August 1897. > > What reproducer do you have? > > Steve > > > > My early Edison home is number H1265, last patent date is June 30, 1893. > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 From svvagans at hotmail.com Thu Sep 10 15:08:05 2009 From: svvagans at hotmail.com (matt hager) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:08:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM Message-ID: Hello All, This is my second post, However I read with baited breath every word of the mail list. I finished the restore on my Victor VV-IV. And it sounds great and looks wonederful. Today I got a call from a friend who said he found a "Stand Up Victrola" Would I be interested. I said sure and when I got there I found it to be a Edison S-19-SM Serial Number 3224. It winds up fine and turns. However it needs lots of TLC. I had to fork over $35 to get and I did. Now my question, What type of needle does it use and where can I get one? Ok questions. IS there anything Special I should know before I start to tear this machine apart? thanks in advance, Matt _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 From waykos at shaw.ca Thu Sep 10 16:46:45 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instuction booklet (WARNING) Message-ID: This seller is the same person that bought that Miki. a few months back from that US seller (firebottles) for that outrageous price.It was so high that I think every chat room brought it up.Around that time I noticed he had tried to sell a Miki tin and he got no bids and was closed.I asked what he would take and at 150.00 seemed fair.I sent him US cash as he told me that anything else there would be a 10.00 US service fee.During all this his emails were fast & furious and after,I only got "I'm on holidays" and that was it.I don't know maybe he didn't receive my money.I do find it strange that the tin never came up for sale again. From waykos at shaw.ca Thu Sep 10 16:38:32 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:38:32 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone instruction booklet (WARNING) Message-ID: <5419360168354CDCA87962C0F5F11EFA@WaynePC> This seller is the same person that bought that Miki from the US buyer (firebottles) for that outrageous price a few months ago.He was selling the tin around that time.The tin got no bids so after the auction I asked him what he wanted to get for it.Well 150.00 seemed fair.So I sent US cash as he told me that anything else there would be a 10.00 US service fee.I know that during this his emails were fast & furious.After,I only got ("I'm on holiday's") and that's it.Maybe he never got the money.However,I do find it strange that the tin never came up for sale again. From mdsorter at aol.com Thu Sep 10 18:17:56 2009 From: mdsorter at aol.com (mdsorter at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:17:56 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC0094D3B92270-1CB8-290B3@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Hi Matt, That machine uses a diamond reproducer--so you don't have to change any needles.? You will want to play ONLY Edison Diamond disc records on it.? If it turns out that it needs a diamond, they are kind of pricey.? I am sure there are people on this list that could set you up with one.? I just did think of one thing.? Perhaps your machine came with the adaptor to play regular 78 records.? I guess you would have to describe the reproducer you got with it before any of us could tell you for sure what you need. ? I have found diamond disc machines easy to work on.? Just make sure the spring is wound down all the way before you begin doing anything!? Good luck and have fun with it. Mike Sorter -----Original Message----- From: matt hager To: phono Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2009 3:08 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM ello All, This is my second post, However I read with baited breath every word of the mail ist. I finished the restore on my Victor VV-IV. And it sounds great and looks onederful. Today I got a call from a friend who said he found a "Stand Up ictrola" Would I be interested. I said sure and when I got there I found it to e a Edison S-19-SM Serial Number 3224. It winds up fine and turns. However it eeds lots of TLC. I had to fork over $35 to get and I did. Now my question, What type of needle does it use20and where can I get one? Ok uestions. IS there anything Special I should know before I start to tear this achine apart? thanks in advance, Matt _________________________________________________________________ indows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on acebook. ttp://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ______________________________________________ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Thu Sep 10 21:07:03 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:07:03 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM In-Reply-To: <8CC0094D3B92270-1CB8-290B3@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC0094D3B92270-1CB8-290B3@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <0352BB6BBF5042C3BF21F71D875DCD3D@ronlherault> I'll second what Mike said and add that if you have the Diamond Disc reproducer you can get replacement styli and gaskets for the rebuild from George Vollema. How do you know if you need new gaskets? Blow gently into the open end of the reproducer. If it leaks air readily, you need new gaskets. How do you know if you need a new stylus? Pick a Diamond disk record that is reasonably shiny and let the reproducer play in the run out area. If you see a line scratching into the shiny flat surface, then the diamond is bad and should be replaced. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of mdsorter at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:18 PM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM Hi Matt, That machine uses a diamond reproducer--so you don't have to change any needles.? You will want to play ONLY Edison Diamond disc records on it.? If it turns out that it needs a diamond, they are kind of pricey.? I am sure there are people on this list that could set you up with one.? I just did think of one thing.? Perhaps your machine came with the adaptor to play regular 78 records.? I guess you would have to describe the reproducer you got with it before any of us could tell you for sure what you need. ? I have found diamond disc machines easy to work on.? Just make sure the spring is wound down all the way before you begin doing anything!? Good luck and have fun with it. Mike Sorter -----Original Message----- From: matt hager To: phono Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2009 3:08 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM ello All, This is my second post, However I read with baited breath every word of the mail ist. I finished the restore on my Victor VV-IV. And it sounds great and looks onederful. Today I got a call from a friend who said he found a "Stand Up ictrola" Would I be interested. I said sure and when I got there I found it to e a Edison S-19-SM Serial Number 3224. It winds up fine and turns. However it eeds lots of TLC. I had to fork over $35 to get and I did. Now my question, What type of needle does it use20and where can I get one? Ok uestions. IS there anything Special I should know before I start to tear this achine apart? thanks in advance, Matt _________________________________________________________________ indows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on acebook. ttp://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 ______________________________________________ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From esroberto at hotmail.com Thu Sep 10 22:24:12 2009 From: esroberto at hotmail.com (Robert Wright ) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:24:12 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM Message-ID: Also, Steven Medved is an Edison reproducer rebuild genius. To: phono-l at oldcrank.org From: Ron L'Herault Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM I'll second what Mike said and add that if you have the Diamond Disc reproducer you can get replacement styli and gaskets for the rebuild from George Vollema. How do you know if you need new gaskets? Blow gently into the open end of the reproducer. If it leaks air readily, you need new gaskets. How do you know if you need a new stylus? Pick a Diamond disk record that is reasonably shiny and let the reproducer play in the run out area. If you see a line scratching into the shiny flat surface, then the diamond is bad and should be replaced. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of mdsorter at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:18 PM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM Hi Matt, That machine uses a diamond reproducer--so you don't have to change any needles.? You will want to play ONLY Edison Diamond disc records on it.? If it turns out that it needs a diamond, they are kind of pricey.? I a From msprinzen at juno.com Fri Sep 11 08:14:46 2009 From: msprinzen at juno.com (msprinzen at juno.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:14:46 GMT Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable Message-ID: <20090911.111446.9832.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> I am not at home right now, but might have a spare. I'll let you know whether I've got one when I return home on Tuesday. In the meantime, if you're interested in that, how about sending me your email address off-line so we don't need to bother everyone with our correspondence. > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Kocsis > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > > I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the > paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very > well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary > for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? > > Best, > > Chris ____________________________________________________________ $5,000 a Week For Life Publishers Clearing House winner annouced on NBC. Enter now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=4ZnOSoShQCzbAbBM66PjXQAAJ1D2EGWQJgc2Zfu3rGBZpu80AAQAAAAFAAAAAArXIzwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACQGZAAAAAA== From estott at localnet.com Fri Sep 11 08:43:14 2009 From: estott at localnet.com (estott at localnet.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:43:14 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed Message-ID: <20090911114314.d6df43ewa0xwgwgg@webmail.localnet.com> Hello- I've just bought a Columbia "Princess" Grafonola missing it's louvers (see this forum thread for pictures?http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2735) If anyone out there has one of these machines I'm looking for measurements: there's not much hope of finding originals. Eric Stott From sdcorbett at earthlink.net Fri Sep 11 10:04:55 2009 From: sdcorbett at earthlink.net (Scott and Denise Corbett) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:04:55 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed In-Reply-To: <20090911114314.d6df43ewa0xwgwgg@webmail.localnet.com> References: <20090911114314.d6df43ewa0xwgwgg@webmail.localnet.com> Message-ID: <004701ca3301$fcc7b210$f6571630$@net> Hi Eric, The measurements off our "Princess" is 3 1/16 x 12 3/16. They are tapered from the center(long way) to the edges. Hope this helps. -Scott & Denise Corbett -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of estott at localnet.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:43 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed Hello- I've just bought a Columbia "Princess" Grafonola missing it's louvers (see this forum thread for pictures?http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2735) If anyone out there has one of these machines I'm looking for measurements: there's not much hope of finding originals. Eric Stott _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Fri Sep 11 11:32:59 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:32:59 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed In-Reply-To: <004701ca3301$fcc7b210$f6571630$@net> References: <20090911114314.d6df43ewa0xwgwgg@webmail.localnet.com> <004701ca3301$fcc7b210$f6571630$@net> Message-ID: <0E87418ACF3248C7913E3D4FCA77EFDE@ronlherault> The 50 I have has louvers that are longer but look like the same width. Perhaps you could modify some rather than starting from scratch with new wood. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Scott and Denise Corbett Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:05 PM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed Hi Eric, The measurements off our "Princess" is 3 1/16 x 12 3/16. They are tapered from the center(long way) to the edges. Hope this helps. -Scott & Denise Corbett -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of estott at localnet.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:43 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed Hello- I've just bought a Columbia "Princess" Grafonola missing it's louvers (see this forum thread for pictures?http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2735) If anyone out there has one of these machines I'm looking for measurements: there's not much hope of finding originals. Eric Stott _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ddazer at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 11 12:21:26 2009 From: ddazer at sbcglobal.net (David Dazer) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed In-Reply-To: <20090911114314.d6df43ewa0xwgwgg@webmail.localnet.com> Message-ID: <536770.25042.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did you check with George Vollema?? Has a two warehouses full of stuff.? He keeps every scrap of veneer and bits and pieces of cabinets. He is a super guy to work with, too. Dave --- On Fri, 9/11/09, estott at localnet.com wrote: From: estott at localnet.com Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola louver help needed To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Cc: phonolist at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 11:43 AM Hello- I've just bought a Columbia "Princess" Grafonola missing it's louvers (see this forum thread for pictures?http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2735) If anyone out there has one of these machines I'm looking for measurements: there's not much hope of finding originals. Eric Stott _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ClockworkHome at aol.com Fri Sep 11 23:21:12 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:21:12 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets Message-ID: Re: Diamond Disc Reproducer Assume that all old rubber gaskets need replacement. They are not there to make the diaphragm airtight BUT to act as vibration dampeners. New compliant gaskets in a properly adjusted reproducer will greatly increase the bass response and make for more clear sound reproduction. The diamond stylus can be worn down and should be checked with a microscope to be sure there is no flat spot or damage that would cause records to wear. Regards to all, Al From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Sat Sep 12 21:10:33 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:10:33 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/Cooledge Records Message-ID: Hope all are well. Does anyone have information on the subject records. I am told that there were three of these. If so, does anyone have a set that they are willing to sell? Thanks much. Brantley Williston, S.C. From maxbud12 at wowway.com Sat Sep 12 23:15:27 2009 From: maxbud12 at wowway.com (Bruce Mercer) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:15:27 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets References: Message-ID: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> In the first place gaskets in an Edison DD reproducer were cork not rubber. It is extremely important that the diaphragm is air tight. Also make sure that that that end of the linkage is tight as well. The brown material you see is burnt shellac. That was used to seal the cone to the diaphragm and over the ends of the tiny nut retaining the stylus cord. Using Pvc-E here works fine as there is no shear motion and stays pliable unlike the burnt shellac that is ridgid. The object again is to make it airtight. If you REALLY want to tighten things up, install an O ring of perfect size as the end of the reproducer. I tack mine on with Crazy glue. Now you have an airtight chamber from diaphragm to tip of horn. If you don't believe the O ring (air tightness) makes any difference (air tightness), take it out and compare the difference. Air leakage is very detrimental in an acoustic system. Bruce ps. remove and polish the rear weight bearing with silver polish, and re-oil. This is often overlooked. > > Assume that all old rubber gaskets need replacement. They are not there > to > make the diaphragm airtight BUT to act as vibration dampeners. From jeffryy at prevea.com Sun Sep 13 08:22:16 2009 From: jeffryy at prevea.com (Jeffry Young, D.O.) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:22:16 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/CooledgeRecords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C7EA97CA5292848B80F204F38A737520EDA0656@mercury.prevea.com> You could e-mail Bob Coon of Menasha, WI at: bwbj4 at yahoo.com He at least may have information for you. I don't know if he has any of these records to sell. Jeff Wisconsin -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:11 PM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/CooledgeRecords Hope all are well. Does anyone have information on the subject records. I am told that there were three of these. If so, does anyone have a set that they are willing to sell? Thanks much. Brantley Williston, S.C. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Sun Sep 13 17:07:42 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:07:42 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed Message-ID: <8827E4FDBA7740D5AC2A9E4C1980001D@WaynePC> Hi All.I'm looking for a tone arm that is a straight tapered arm with a 90 bend at the reproducer end and has a Victor style fitting.The fat end in 1 3/4" wide and has a little hole on each side to mount into the bracket.The tone arm is 9 - 9.5" long.Please,if you can look in your parts bins a look that would be great.I tried that Howard Hope fellow and never heard back from him but, thanks for the tip. From C5fan at aol.com Mon Sep 14 02:46:41 2009 From: C5fan at aol.com (C5fan at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:46:41 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable Message-ID: Check out item #280397151342 on eBay. Thanks In a message dated 9/11/2009 11:36:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, msprinzen at juno.com writes: I am not at home right now, but might have a spare. I'll let you know whether I've got one when I return home on Tuesday. In the meantime, if you're interested in that, how about sending me your email address off-line so we don't need to bother everyone with our correspondence. > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Kocsis > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable > > I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the > paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very > well. It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary > for best performance. Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare? > > Best, > > Chris ____________________________________________________________ $5,000 a Week For Life Publishers Clearing House winner annouced on NBC. Enter now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=4ZnOSoShQCzbAbBM66PjXQAAJ1D2EG WQJgc2Zfu3rGBZpu80AAQAAAAFAAAAAArXIzwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACQGZAAAAAA== _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From esroberto at hotmail.com Mon Sep 14 07:42:02 2009 From: esroberto at hotmail.com (Robert Wright) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:42:02 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets In-Reply-To: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> Message-ID: Yeah, I was gonna have to call that one -- why on earth would anyone attempt to dampen vibrations in an acoustic playback system? > From: maxbud12 at wowway.com > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:15:27 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets > > In the first place gaskets in an Edison DD reproducer were cork not rubber. > It is extremely important that the diaphragm is air tight. > If you don't believe the O > ring (air tightness) makes any difference (air tightness), take it out and > compare the difference. Air leakage is very detrimental in an acoustic > system. > Bruce > > Assume that all old rubber gaskets need replacement. They are not there > > to > > make the diaphragm airtight BUT to act as vibration dampeners. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ From victrola at triton.net Mon Sep 14 07:52:05 2009 From: victrola at triton.net (George) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:52:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed References: <8827E4FDBA7740D5AC2A9E4C1980001D@WaynePC> Message-ID: Is this for a victrola or outside horn machine Wayne. It'll make a difference in the angle on the end of the arm. George ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed Hi All.I'm looking for a tone arm that is a straight tapered arm with a 90 bend at the reproducer end and has a Victor style fitting.The fat end in 1 3/4" wide and has a little hole on each side to mount into the bracket.The tone arm is 9 - 9.5" long.Please,if you can look in your parts bins a look that would be great.I tried that Howard Hope fellow and never heard back from him but, thanks for the tip. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From steve_noreen at msn.com Mon Sep 14 13:21:39 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:21:39 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets In-Reply-To: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> Message-ID: Edison switched to cork gaskets around 1924 as he found that cork retains resiliency longer than rubber. (from Ron D) Hello Bruce, You must have only seen the later DD reproducers, from 1912 to 1924 the gaskets are a soft natural rubber that began to harden in as little as six months. I have seen Edison cylinder reproducers with cork gaskets, Edison still did repairs into the 1920's. I use a Q-Tip and a Dremel tool to polish the inside of the body where the stud goes and the stud itself. I use synthetic oil so it will not gum up again. The stylus bar is another critical area, many times it is gummed up and does not move freely. Steve > In the first place gaskets in an Edison DD reproducer were cork not rubber. > It is extremely important that the diaphragm is air tight. Also make sure > that that that end of the linkage is tight as well. The brown material you > see is burnt shellac. That was used to seal the cone to the diaphragm and > over the ends of the tiny nut retaining the stylus cord. Using Pvc-E here > works fine as there is no shear motion and stays pliable unlike the burnt > shellac that is ridgid. The object again is to make it airtight. If you > REALLY want to tighten things up, install an O ring of perfect size as the > end of the reproducer. I tack mine on with Crazy glue. Now you have an > airtight chamber from diaphragm to tip of horn. If you don't believe the O > ring (air tightness) makes any difference (air tightness), take it out and > compare the difference. Air leakage is very detrimental in an acoustic > system. > Bruce > ps. remove and polish the rear weight bearing with silver polish, and > re-oil. This is often overlooked. > > > > > Assume that all old rubber gaskets need replacement. They are not there > > to > > make the diaphragm airtight BUT to act as vibration dampeners. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -------------- ATTACHMENT -------------- **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: ModelH factory repair.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 40645 bytes URL: From waykos at shaw.ca Mon Sep 14 20:08:54 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed Message-ID: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> George,it is for a outside horn machine.As I wrote,with the fat end up and away from you the 90 bend at the reproducer goes to the right.This is for a friend and hope to find something that will work.I think there some that also had a "U" end like Victor but no pivot rod thru the back. From glastris at comcast.net Mon Sep 14 20:34:09 2009 From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed In-Reply-To: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> References: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> Message-ID: If Howard Hope doesn't get back to you you may want to search under Ebay.co.uk. Sellers there may think the US market isn't interested in European parts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" To: Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed > George,it is for a outside horn machine.As I wrote,with the fat end up and > away from you the 90 bend at the reproducer goes to the right.This is for > a friend and hope to find something that will work.I think there some that > also had a "U" end like Victor but no pivot rod thru the back. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From waykos at shaw.ca Mon Sep 14 21:07:02 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed Message-ID: Thanks George.I'm surprised that he never replied back.I sent pics etc... and even asked if he got everything and nothing.A little strange but, then I don't know him at all. From glastris at comcast.net Mon Sep 14 21:15:20 2009 From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0BE234E1EC6E43988807806F9C8A7901@GLASTRISPC> Howard can be a bit moody but he sometimes forgets to answer emails. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" To: Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:07 PM Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed > Thanks George.I'm surprised that he never replied back.I sent pics etc... > and even asked if he got everything and nothing.A little strange but, then > I don't know him at all. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From KEEPERH2O at aol.com Tue Sep 15 00:00:03 2009 From: KEEPERH2O at aol.com (KEEPERH2O at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:00:03 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Message-ID: Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward From KEEPERH2O at aol.com Tue Sep 15 00:01:00 2009 From: KEEPERH2O at aol.com (KEEPERH2O at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:01:00 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Message-ID: Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward From KEEPERH2O at aol.com Tue Sep 15 00:02:36 2009 From: KEEPERH2O at aol.com (KEEPERH2O at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:02:36 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Message-ID: Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward From KEEPERH2O at aol.com Tue Sep 15 00:08:02 2009 From: KEEPERH2O at aol.com (KEEPERH2O at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:08:02 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Message-ID: Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward From KEEPERH2O at aol.com Tue Sep 15 00:10:27 2009 From: KEEPERH2O at aol.com (KEEPERH2O at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:10:27 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Message-ID: Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward From victrola at triton.net Tue Sep 15 05:14:57 2009 From: victrola at triton.net (George) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:14:57 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed References: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> Message-ID: I dug though shelves of arms without any luck. George ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed George,it is for a outside horn machine.As I wrote,with the fat end up and away from you the 90 bend at the reproducer goes to the right.This is for a friend and hope to find something that will work.I think there some that also had a "U" end like Victor but no pivot rod thru the back. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Tue Sep 15 06:00:42 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:00:42 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison clip needed Message-ID: <21ADB782920A4CD2B7ED2EE2551D8991@WaynePC> I'm looking for one Edison early case clip for a standard or Early home.I realy just need the bottom part but, I will buy the two pieces. From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 15 05:53:58 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:53:58 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed In-Reply-To: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> References: <3A923F2DB086423FB6E6DEEE44C476E4@WaynePC> Message-ID: <002401ca3603$979e82b0$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> If this arm you are looking for has a pivot rod at the back end and just a right angle bend to the reproducer, it sounds like a rigid arm. How would one raise/lower the reproducer onto the record? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of wayne Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:09 PM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed George,it is for a outside horn machine.As I wrote,with the fat end up and away from you the 90 bend at the reproducer goes to the right.This is for a friend and hope to find something that will work.I think there some that also had a "U" end like Victor but no pivot rod thru the back. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Tue Sep 15 06:06:46 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:06:46 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] European tone arm needed Message-ID: George,thanks for looking.As I wrote even if it will require some moding ie, I may have to drill the little holes in the top.as you know the 1 3/4" by 9.5" is the most important part. From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 15 06:08:40 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002501ca3605$a5262f80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> There are 6 (if I counted correctly) 52000 series DDs there! Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of KEEPERH2O at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:00 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Tue Sep 15 06:36:31 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist In-Reply-To: <002501ca3605$a5262f80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <479706090.1675101253021791009.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I guess some smart person snapped them both up as the ads are no longer there. Some lucky stiff grabbed them !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L'Herault" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:08:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist There are 6 (if I counted correctly) 52000 series DDs there! Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of KEEPERH2O at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:00 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From edisone1 at verizon.net Tue Sep 15 06:50:51 2009 From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:50:51 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist References: Message-ID: <596A4398E3164E02A8E66EB6A735C12F@T42> wow, $2500 for an Edisonic. Wish I had a few to sell ! ----- Original Message ----- > > I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD > player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, > ye > may follow 'em up: > > _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ > (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) > From victrola at triton.net Tue Sep 15 07:23:16 2009 From: victrola at triton.net (George) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison clip needed References: <21ADB782920A4CD2B7ED2EE2551D8991@WaynePC> Message-ID: <4643DD9C518F4DC084F8CA86BFA0BCB8@VALUEDCB7D4C82> I've got one Wayne. contact me off list for details please. George ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison clip needed I'm looking for one Edison early case clip for a standard or Early home.I realy just need the bottom part but, I will buy the two pieces. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From maxbud12 at wowway.com Tue Sep 15 07:47:21 2009 From: maxbud12 at wowway.com (Bruce Mercer) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:47:21 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> Message-ID: <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> That's what I like about this group, you learn something new about your passion all the time. The earliest reproducer I have is on my C-250, the one with the screwed on stylus plate. This machine is from 1916. It does have cork gaskets so they must have been been replaced very early on. I've had several reproducers with the screw-on plates and they all have had cork. They must have kept the dealers busy retrofitting! Thanks for the info. Bruce > > Edison > switched to cork gaskets around 1924 as he found that cork retains > > resiliency longer than rubber. (from Ron D) > > Hello Bruce, > > You must have only seen the later DD reproducers, from 1912 to 1924 the > gaskets are a soft natural rubber that began to harden in as little as six > months. I have seen Edison cylinder reproducers with cork gaskets, Edison > still did repairs into the 1920's. > Steve From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 15 08:05:10 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:05:10 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist In-Reply-To: <479706090.1675101253021791009.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <002501ca3605$a5262f80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> <479706090.1675101253021791009.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <003501ca3615$eb5d3dd0$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Links still worked for me. Make sure the () are not in the links if you cut and paste them into your browser. -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78rpm at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:37 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist I guess some smart person snapped them both up as the ads are no longer there. Some lucky stiff grabbed them !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L'Herault" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:08:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist There are 6 (if I counted correctly) 52000 series DDs there! Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of KEEPERH2O at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:00 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist Greetings, Friends, I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, ye may follow 'em up: _http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/atq/1366519095.html) _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) All the Best! : ) Edward _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 15 08:07:27 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:07:27 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist In-Reply-To: <596A4398E3164E02A8E66EB6A735C12F@T42> References: <596A4398E3164E02A8E66EB6A735C12F@T42> Message-ID: <003601ca3616$3cd0ae90$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> I wonder why it says $800 in headline. Maybe he got no takers with an earlier ad? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of DanKj Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:51 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Two phonos on Portland OR Craigslist wow, $2500 for an Edisonic. Wish I had a few to sell ! ----- Original Message ----- > > I'm just passing this on so if anyone is interested in an "Edisonic" DD > player or a '20's era mahogany console, both apparently in VG condition, > ye > may follow 'em up: > > _http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html_ > (http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/atq/1372265104.html) > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Tue Sep 15 08:09:05 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:09:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets In-Reply-To: <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> Message-ID: <003701ca3616$7796ea80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> And how are the cork gaskets? The ones I've seen (and replaced) seem rather brittle and most of the time have deformed and come out from under the flat ring. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Mercer Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:47 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets That's what I like about this group, you learn something new about your passion all the time. The earliest reproducer I have is on my C-250, the one with the screwed on stylus plate. This machine is from 1916. It does have cork gaskets so they must have been been replaced very early on. I've had several reproducers with the screw-on plates and they all have had cork. They must have kept the dealers busy retrofitting! Thanks for the info. Bruce > > Edison > switched to cork gaskets around 1924 as he found that cork retains > > resiliency longer than rubber. (from Ron D) > > Hello Bruce, > > You must have only seen the later DD reproducers, from 1912 to 1924 the > gaskets are a soft natural rubber that began to harden in as little as six > months. I have seen Edison cylinder reproducers with cork gaskets, Edison > still did repairs into the 1920's. > Steve _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From edisonstuff at comcast.net Tue Sep 15 10:34:39 2009 From: edisonstuff at comcast.net (edisonstuff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Update on Bobbie Hummel In-Reply-To: <1368732164.2389431253035680778.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <877986788.2392071253036079710.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hello List, ????????? Some of you may have heard at the Danburry Show that Charley Hummels wife Bobbie wasn't doing very well, Her condition?has worsened?& Hospice has been called in she's as comfortable as is possible she has Charley & all the family around her at all times. Everything that can be done is being done but it's in the hands of God now, I talked to Charley a few minutes ago & said if I'd like to post this to the list for him it would be OK.?Lets all?keep Bobbie in?our prayers. Jim G. From steve_noreen at msn.com Tue Sep 15 10:49:16 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets In-Reply-To: <003701ca3616$7796ea80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> <003701ca3616$7796ea80$55d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: The ones on the small reproducers like the C H K held up well, the most of the ones on the DD reproducers have been deformed and come out. Steve > And how are the cork gaskets? The ones I've seen (and replaced) seem rather > brittle and most of the time have deformed and come out from under the flat > ring. > > Ron L > From steve_noreen at msn.com Tue Sep 15 10:53:43 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:53:43 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison S-19-SM - reproducer gaskets In-Reply-To: <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> References: <96D602619A2046D4AB729CAE16647DF4@Vaio> <08DF9B91A4984F0FB3D5129E75EDA508@Vaio> Message-ID: Thanks for the kind reply. The screw on plate is the second style made from around 1913 to 1915. I enjoyed reading this as I have never seen an earlier one with cork. One thing about Edison there is always more to learn. I recently saw a reproducer originally with a Duncan stop upgraded to an Edisonic with nickel plating. Steve > That's what I like about this group, you learn something new about your > passion all the time. The earliest reproducer I have is on my C-250, the one > with the screwed on stylus plate. This machine is from 1916. It does have > cork gaskets so they must have been been replaced very early on. I've had > several reproducers with the screw-on plates and they all have had cork. > They must have kept the dealers busy retrofitting! > Thanks for the info. > Bruce From waykos at shaw.ca Tue Sep 15 19:21:51 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Rolling Walker with brakes & Basket - $125 (North Vancouver) Message-ID: phone Dennis 604-255-7988 http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/hab/1374119234.html From svvagans at hotmail.com Tue Sep 15 19:58:01 2009 From: svvagans at hotmail.com (matt hager) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:58:01 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] edison S-19-SM Message-ID: Thanks to All for the good information about the reproducer. My next concern is the Grill. Does any one have a pattern of it I can get so I can make a new one? I have the out side frame. I need to make the inner fancy part. And in the same area, What is the correct grill cloth? Thanks again from the owner of two crank machines and I hear two of anything is the start of a collection. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergy&form=MHEINA&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 From waykos at shaw.ca Tue Sep 15 19:58:22 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:58:22 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] oops!! how did that get on here????.way off topic!!!! Message-ID: <48B88D44B7B447B0921AE3EE45E1FD79@WaynePC> From edisonstuff at comcast.net Wed Sep 16 13:08:27 2009 From: edisonstuff at comcast.net (edisonstuff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel In-Reply-To: <877986788.2392071253036079710.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1354552944.2931911253131707228.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Early this afternoon Charley's beloved wife Bobbie lost her courageous battle with cancer, she will be sorely missed by Charley, her family, friends?& everyone who has had the pleasure of knowing her ! ----- Original Message ----- From: edisonstuff @comcast.net To: "phono-l" Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:34:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Phono-L] Update on Bobbie Hummel Hello List, ????????? Some of you may have heard at the Danburry Show that Charley Hummels wife Bobbie wasn't doing very well, Her condition?has worsened?& Hospice has been called in she's as comfortable as is possible she has Charley & all the family around her at all times. Everything that can be done is being done but it's in the hands of God now, I talked to Charley a few minutes ago & said if I'd like to post this to the list for him it would be OK.?Lets all?keep Bobbie in?our prayers. Jim G. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org From phonolist at cylinder.de Wed Sep 16 14:13:10 2009 From: phonolist at cylinder.de (Norman Bruderhofer) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:13:10 +0200 Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel In-Reply-To: <1354552944.2931911253131707228.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1354552944.2931911253131707228.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AB154E6.5080402@cylinder.de> Thank you for keeping the community up to date. She was so kind and supportive. It is a very sad thing and I just can emphasize my deepest sympathy for him and the family. Norman edisonstuff at comcast.net wrote: > Early this afternoon Charley's beloved wife Bobbie lost her courageous battle with cancer, she will be sorely missed by Charley, her family, friends & everyone who has had the pleasure of knowing her ! > > > From edisonstuff at comcast.net Wed Sep 16 14:31:38 2009 From: edisonstuff at comcast.net (edisonstuff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel In-Reply-To: <1354552944.2931911253131707228.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <82947290.2966171253136698833.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> The Funeral Service for Bobbie Hummel will be, this ?Friday morning 9:00 AM at Immaculate Heart of Mary RC Church on Ratzer Rd Wayne N.J. ----- Original Message ----- From: edisonstuff at comcast.net To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:08:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel Early this afternoon Charley's beloved wife Bobbie lost her courageous battle with cancer, she will be sorely missed by Charley, her family, friends?& everyone who has had the pleasure of knowing her ! ----- Original Message ----- From: edisonstuff @comcast.net To: "phono-l" Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:34:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Phono-L] Update on Bobbie Hummel Hello List, ????????? Some of you may have heard at the Danburry Show that Charley Hummels wife Bobbie wasn't doing very well, Her condition?has worsened?& Hospice has been called in she's as comfortable as is possible she has Charley & all the family around her at all times. Everything that can be done is being done but it's in the hands of God now, I talked to Charley a few minutes ago & said if I'd like to post this to the list for him it would be OK.?Lets all?keep Bobbie in?our prayers. Jim G. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 17:23:54 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola IV Parts machine for sale. Message-ID: <765052.10662.qm@web37008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a Victrola IV parts machine for sale. It includes the cabinet (13" wide, 14.5" deep) with the doors (no knobs), horn, back bracket, tone arm, brake, and the speed control. I will sell everything for $50 (OBO) or make me an offer on what you need. UPS extra. Please email jerry.blais at yahoo.com or call 541-990-0781 (Pacific time). Thanks, Jerry Blais From steve_noreen at msn.com Wed Sep 16 17:53:33 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:53:33 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Rolling Walker with brakes & Basket - $125 (North Vancouver) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > From: waykos at shaw.ca > To: sale-aqwe5-1374119234 at craigslist.org; phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:21:51 -0700 > Subject: [Phono-L] Rolling Walker with brakes & Basket - $125 (North Vancouver) > > > > phone Dennis 604-255-7988 > http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/hab/1374119234.html > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 19:06:18 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone need Victrola VIII parts? $20 Message-ID: <409364.46489.qm@web37002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am selling an oak VV-VIII parts machine. The cabinet has a good lid. The doors are slightly warped and there's quite a bit of loose veneer on the case. Included is the ID tag, oak needle holder, tone arm bracket, tone arm, and the horn. Please contact me at jerry.blais at yahoo.com or call 541-990-0781 (Pacific time) if interested. Thanks, Jerry Blais From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Wed Sep 16 20:02:35 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:02:35 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs Message-ID: Howdy friends. I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family. Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs? Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Brantley From elcaminonyc at aol.com Wed Sep 16 20:28:24 2009 From: elcaminonyc at aol.com (elcaminonyc at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:28:24 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC055E0C83FACD-46C-CF30@webmail-m067.sysops.aol.com> Nancy Fratti -----Original Message----- From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs Howdy friends. I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family. Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs? Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Brantley _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 21:47:03 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <428099.6942.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Brantley. I'll keep my eyes open for duplicates - Harvey --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Kuglarb at wmconnect.com wrote: From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 8:02 PM Howdy friends.? I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family.? Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell?? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs?? Any help much appreciated!? Thanks. Brantley _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 21:49:50 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola VIII parts have been sold. Message-ID: <726800.34555.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the interest. The Victrola VIII parts have been sold. Jerry From zonophone2006 at aol.com Thu Sep 17 02:41:06 2009 From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 05:41:06 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC05921D1CB45E-2884-EF62@webmail-m015.sysops.aol.com> check with porter music box -----Original Message----- From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs Howdy friends. I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family. Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs? Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Brantley _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From phonofolks at aol.com Thu Sep 17 06:47:20 2009 From: phonofolks at aol.com (phonofolks at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:47:20 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC05B4825875F4-3BF8-2396@webmail-m077.sysops.aol.com> http://www.nancyfrattimusicboxes.com/ ? http://www.portermusicbox.com/default.aspx ? Also check ebay. Make sure the disks you buy are free from rust and the projectiles on the back of the discs are all in tact. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, Sep 16, 2009 11:02 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Information Needed For 15.5 Regina Music Box Discs Howdy friends. I just purchased a coin operated Regina Music Box for the family. Does anoyone have any 15.5 discs that they would like to sell? Also, where is the best place to purchase reproduction discs? Any help much appreciated! Thanks. Brantley _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From nipper at dataex.com Thu Sep 17 16:07:43 2009 From: nipper at dataex.com (Robin Rolfs) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel References: <82947290.2966171253136698833.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <39CA31B52AC84F72A69155C8F2D2EBC4@owner094cc0223> We are deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Bobbie Hummel. We all know Charlie Hummel, the great phonograph collector. However, it was Bobbie who brought up Charlie?s grandfather?s phonograph from the basement and mentioned ?Why don?t you fix that old phonograph?? That is when Charlie found his second love which Bobbie fully supported. Charlie Hummel enjoys sharing his knowledge of phonographs and his collection with others. But, it was also Bobbie who enjoyed his zest for the hobby. They both enjoyed sharing their collection with other collectors from throughout the world. If you ever had an opportunity to visit Charlie after one of the Wayne, NJ shows, you would have a rare treat of meeting Bobbie. In the fall, Bobbie would have the house decorated for Halloween and in the springtime Easter bunnies would greet you on the lawn. She would usually be in the kitchen preparing a delectable meal for hungry collectors. Her lasagna was incredible. I stated it must be hard to make such a large quantity and she would respond, ?Oh, it is easy.? Her grandchildren were always around to help and Charlie always did the serving. Charlie always had interesting items for guests to marvel and snacks would be on every table in the living room. At the end of the party Charlie would usually start a fire in the fireplace to burn the paper plates. Bobbie would join him and they would sit side by side as Charlie would state ?he married the best wife in the world.? Also the most beautiful, which Bobbie was with that twinkle in her eyes and beautiful blond hair. We send our sympathy to Charlie, his children and grandchildren. They are such a great family. Bobbie will be greatly missed by all that knew her in our phonograph hobby. Joan & Robin Rolfs ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Very Sad News ---- Bobbie Hummel > > > The Funeral Service for Bobbie Hummel will be, this Friday morning 9:00 AM > at Immaculate Heart of Mary RC Church on Ratzer Rd Wayne N.J. From mtucker at exemail.com.au Thu Sep 17 23:51:17 2009 From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:51:17 +1000 Subject: [Phono-L] Transport Message-ID: <000001ca382c$6bf6bfd0$43e43f70$@com.au> I would appreciate some assistance with transporting a record cabinet if anyone would be kind enough to assist. Happy to pay for the assistance. The cabinet is in Wichita Falls, Texas, and I need to get it to either LA (destination) or to the Wayne meeting for handover to a friend (and then all the way back to LA). Mike Tucker mtucker at exemail.com.au From appywander at hotmail.com Fri Sep 18 01:47:50 2009 From: appywander at hotmail.com (John Maeder) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:47:50 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Transport In-Reply-To: <000001ca382c$6bf6bfd0$43e43f70$@com.au> References: <000001ca382c$6bf6bfd0$43e43f70$@com.au> Message-ID: Hello Mike! Check out uship.com. Kind regards, John > From: mtucker at exemail.com.au > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:51:17 +1000 > Subject: [Phono-L] Transport > > I would appreciate some assistance with transporting a record cabinet if > anyone would be kind enough to assist. Happy to pay for the assistance. > > > > The cabinet is in Wichita Falls, Texas, and I need to get it to either LA > (destination) or to the Wayne meeting for handover to a friend (and then all > the way back to LA). > > > > Mike Tucker mtucker at exemail.com.au > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From glastris at comcast.net Fri Sep 18 08:05:29 2009 From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:05:29 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] =?utf-8?q?Eight_Forty-Eight_-_Chicago=27s_First_World_M?= =?utf-8?q?usic_Festival=E2=80=A6in_1893?= Message-ID: <96CAB3F3EAE44E09A9BD28533F7A1059@GLASTRISPC> This was just on the local Chicago NPR station....it's a fascinating story about the 1893 World's Fair and some cylinders recorded there. Best to all, George Glastris http://wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=36867 From zonophone2006 at aol.com Sat Sep 19 03:53:44 2009 From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:53:44 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] HERE IS BARBARA HUMMELS NOTICE Message-ID: <8CC072E975CCEE9-26C4-CE1@webmail-d100.sysops.aol.com> WWW.VANDERMAY.COM JUST CLICK ON HER NAME VERY NICE From klinger at modex.com Mon Sep 21 18:18:10 2009 From: klinger at modex.com (Bill Klinger) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:18:10 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] ARSC Conference 2010: New Orleans Message-ID: <69C98D226E2246FC9D8E11EF42B59CB7@billqbszr49l7m> The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. --- 2010 ARSC CONFERENCE: NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA --- The 44th annual ARSC Conference will be held at the Chateau Bourbon, 800 Iberville Street, New Orleans, Louisiana, May 19-22, 2010. The Chateau Bourbon is located in the historic French Quarter. Nearby points of interest include the National D-Day Museum, the Historic New Orleans Collection, Audubon Zoo, and Preservation Hall. A block of rooms has been reserved at the special conference rate of $129, single or double. For those who require additional information for budgetary purposes, please refer to the 2009 conference webpage: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2009/ We anticipate that fees for 2010 will be equivalent. More information about the 2010 conference will be posted at: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/ Questions regarding the conference should be directed to Brenda Nelson-Strauss, ARSC Conference Manager, at bnelsons at indiana.edu The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. From klinger at modex.com Mon Sep 21 18:28:31 2009 From: klinger at modex.com (Bill Klinger) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:28:31 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] ARSC Conference 2010: Call for Presentations Message-ID: <473C380AE63045BFB3A9DEEEA05F878D@billqbszr49l7m> The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. --- 2010 ARSC CONFERENCE: CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS --- Proposal deadline: January 4, 2010 The Association for Recorded Sound Collections invites proposals for presentations at its 44th annual conference, to be held May 19-22, 2010, in one of the most fascinating cultural centers in America, New Orleans, Louisiana. The conference will take place at the historic Chateau Bourbon, located in the heart of the French Quarter. ARSC welcomes presentations on the preservation and study of sound recordings in all genres of music and speech, in any format, and from any period. The enthusiastic audience will be drawn from our community of collectors, historians, musicians, preservationists, and archivists. In general, we give preference to demonstrations, papers, and panels that are informative, well organized, and include compelling audio and visual content, presented by people who display a passion about their subjects. Presentations may deal with technical issues such as preservation and archives management or with content-related topics such as discography, repertoire, and artist profiles. This year we especially welcome presentations that showcase New Orleans and the surrounding area and their rich recording heritage. The deadline for receiving presentation proposals is January 4, 2010. Receipt will be acknowledged by e-mail. Presenters will be notified of acceptance by January 31, 2010. For more information and the Call for Presentations form, visit: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/pdf/2010call.rtf General conference information can be found at: http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/ Tim Brooks ARSC Program Chair tim at timbrooks.net The Association for Recorded Sound Collections is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation and study of sound recordings -- in all genres of music and speech, in all formats, and from all periods. ARSC is unique in bringing together private individuals and institutional professionals -- everyone with a serious interest in recorded sound. From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Tue Sep 22 22:55:32 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:55:32 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Does Anyone Have This Murray For Sale? Message-ID: Hi all. Does anyone have a copy of Meet Me In St. Louis, Louis by Billy Murray on Victor record for sale? If so, please let me know. Thanks to everyone that is so helpful to me in my hobby of collecting and enjoying phonographs and records! Brantley From waykos at shaw.ca Wed Sep 23 08:47:42 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:47:42 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Have a look at this HOT machine Message-ID: To the members of this board.I have decided to get off my but and do a proper You-Tube video of my Paillard Hot-Air Phonograph.Since I was recently lucky to find the correct Paillard horn and elbow,this machine can now be seen in it's all original state.With this horn,it is now one of three that have the correct horn and the only one in North America.I hope you all enjoy the show.To find it,just type in "Paillard Benvenuto Phonograph". From edisonstuff at comcast.net Wed Sep 23 09:23:39 2009 From: edisonstuff at comcast.net (edisonstuff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Thank You from Charley Message-ID: <1692082478.5441361253723019913.JavaMail.root@sz0129a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hello Group, ????????????? Charley Hummel has asked me to thank the members of the group & everyone else for all the calls, cards & outpouring of support following the passing of his beloved wife Bobbie last week, for anyone who missed the notice it can be still be found at: www.Vandermay.com ?just click on Bobbie Hummel. Thanks Again to All from Charley !!! From AGW1886 at aol.com Wed Sep 23 18:29:00 2009 From: AGW1886 at aol.com (AGW1886 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:29:00 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Have a look at this HOT machine Message-ID: In a message dated 9/23/2009 8:49:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, waykos at shaw.ca writes: > Paillard Benvenuto Phonograph Incredible! Sincerely. Rick A. Jorgensen GOLDEN ERA AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION http://www.geaaonline.org UNCLE JOSH'S PUN'KIN CENTRE STORIES http://www.montanaphonograph.com/unclejosh.html From andy at popyrus.com Fri Sep 25 07:53:51 2009 From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:53:51 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/Coolidge Records In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07656002-F937-4834-958B-ECF1038FD181@popyrus.com> Although I'm not currently interested in selling, these are the three that I have (includes the 10" record): Does anyone else out there on Phono-L know of any other recordings surrounding the events of Lindbergh's return to the US, or particularly unusual or rare Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly popular songs)? Victor 12" scroll label 35834-A Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh's address before the press club at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 Victor 12" scroll label 35834-B Col. Lindbergh's Souvenir Record - concluded (with facsimile of Lindbergh's signature printed below title) Victor 12" scroll label 35835-A President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 1 Victor 12" scroll label 35835-B President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 2 Victor 10" scroll label 20747-A Actual Moments in the Reception to Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 1: The U.S.S. Memphis docks at the Navy Yard- The Salute to Secretary Wilbur - Col. Lindbergh Sets Foot on American Soil- The Start of the Procession Victor 10" scroll label 20747-B Actual Moments in the Reception to Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 2: The march along Pennsylvania Avenue- The reception at the foot of the Washington Monument The 12" records feature the voices of the names shown on the label, while the 10" record is Graham McNamee reporting. The breathlessness you hear in McNamee's voice may be in part due to his being a native Minnesotan, so this arrival would have had an extra measure of meaning for him. Does anyone else know of other recordings surrounding the events of Lindbergh's return to the US, or particularly unusual or rare Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly popular songs)? Andy Baron Santa Fe On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Kuglarb at wmconnect.com wrote: > Hope all are well. Does anyone have information on the subject > records. I > am told that there were three of these. If so, does anyone have a > set that > they are willing to sell? Thanks much. > > Brantley > Williston, S.C. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From nipper at dataex.com Fri Sep 25 10:50:41 2009 From: nipper at dataex.com (Robin Rolfs) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:50:41 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/CoolidgeRecords References: <07656002-F937-4834-958B-ECF1038FD181@popyrus.com> Message-ID: <78CE3D3D994C49828E5BA6AF10541840@owner094cc0223> Andy, There is an additional Victor 12": Victor 12" scroll label 35836-A President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 3 Victor 12" scroll label 35836-B President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 4 Rob Rolfs Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/CoolidgeRecords > Although I'm not currently interested in selling, these are the three > that I have (includes the 10" record): > Does anyone else out there on Phono-L know of any other recordings > surrounding the events of Lindbergh's return to the US, or particularly > unusual or rare Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly popular > songs)? > > Victor 12" scroll label 35834-A Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh's address > before the press club at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 > Victor 12" scroll label 35834-B Col. Lindbergh's Souvenir Record - > concluded (with facsimile of Lindbergh's signature printed below title) > > Victor 12" scroll label 35835-A President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel > Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 1 > Victor 12" scroll label 35835-B President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel > Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 2 > > Victor 10" scroll label 20747-A Actual Moments in the Reception to > Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 1: > The U.S.S. Memphis docks at the Navy Yard- > The Salute to Secretary Wilbur - > Col. Lindbergh Sets Foot on American Soil- > The Start of the Procession > Victor 10" scroll label 20747-B Actual Moments in the Reception to > Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 2: > The march along Pennsylvania Avenue- > The reception at the foot of the Washington Monument > > The 12" records feature the voices of the names shown on the label, while > the 10" record is Graham McNamee reporting. The breathlessness you hear > in McNamee's voice may be in part due to his being a native Minnesotan, > so this arrival would have had an extra measure of meaning for him. > > Does anyone else know of other recordings surrounding the events of > Lindbergh's return to the US, or particularly unusual or rare > Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly popular songs)? > > Andy Baron > Santa Fe > > On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Kuglarb at wmconnect.com wrote: > >> Hope all are well. Does anyone have information on the subject records. >> I >> am told that there were three of these. If so, does anyone have a set >> that >> they are willing to sell? Thanks much. >> >> Brantley >> Williston, S.C. >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From andy at popyrus.com Fri Sep 25 11:21:38 2009 From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:21:38 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles Lindbergh/CoolidgeRecords In-Reply-To: <78CE3D3D994C49828E5BA6AF10541840@owner094cc0223> References: <07656002-F937-4834-958B-ECF1038FD181@popyrus.com> <78CE3D3D994C49828E5BA6AF10541840@owner094cc0223> Message-ID: <06C3C9D4-B7C9-4FDB-A5FE-B7D01202C18B@popyrus.com> Thanks, Rob for adding this information. I wasn't aware of the Victor 35836; Parts 3 & 4, which I'll start watching for. Best, Andy On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Robin Rolfs wrote: > Andy, > > There is an additional Victor 12": > > Victor 12" scroll label 35836-A President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel > Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 3 > Victor 12" scroll label 35836-B President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel > Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 4 > > Rob Rolfs > Wisconsin > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Information On 12" Victor Charles > Lindbergh/CoolidgeRecords > > >> Although I'm not currently interested in selling, these are the three >> that I have (includes the 10" record): >> Does anyone else out there on Phono-L know of any other recordings >> surrounding the events of Lindbergh's return to the US, or >> particularly >> unusual or rare Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly >> popular >> songs)? >> >> Victor 12" scroll label 35834-A Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh's >> address >> before the press club at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 >> Victor 12" scroll label 35834-B Col. Lindbergh's Souvenir Record - >> concluded (with facsimile of Lindbergh's signature printed below >> title) >> >> Victor 12" scroll label 35835-A President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel >> Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 1 >> Victor 12" scroll label 35835-B President Coolidge Welcomes Colonel >> Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., June 11, 1927 - Part 2 >> >> Victor 10" scroll label 20747-A Actual Moments in the Reception to >> Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 1: >> The U.S.S. Memphis docks at the Navy Yard- >> The Salute to Secretary Wilbur - >> Col. Lindbergh Sets Foot on American Soil- >> The Start of the Procession >> Victor 10" scroll label 20747-B Actual Moments in the Reception to >> Colonel Charles A. Lindbergh at Washington, D. C., - Part 2: >> The march along Pennsylvania Avenue- >> The reception at the foot of the Washington Monument >> >> The 12" records feature the voices of the names shown on the >> label, while >> the 10" record is Graham McNamee reporting. The breathlessness >> you hear >> in McNamee's voice may be in part due to his being a native >> Minnesotan, >> so this arrival would have had an extra measure of meaning for him. >> >> Does anyone else know of other recordings surrounding the events of >> Lindbergh's return to the US, or particularly unusual or rare >> Lindbergh-related 78's (exclusive of the commonly popular songs)? >> >> Andy Baron >> Santa Fe >> >> On Sep 12, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Kuglarb at wmconnect.com wrote: >> >>> Hope all are well. Does anyone have information on the subject >>> records. >>> I >>> am told that there were three of these. If so, does anyone have >>> a set >>> that >>> they are willing to sell? Thanks much. >>> >>> Brantley >>> Williston, S.C. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From cdh041 at earthlink.net Fri Sep 25 15:11:24 2009 From: cdh041 at earthlink.net (Douglas Houston) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:11:24 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Lindbergh recordings Message-ID: <410-220099525221124671@earthlink.net> I have been able to get a couple of the Lindbergh records. I believe that one was a 10 inch, and another a 12 inch. They were all taken from the NBC network lines. If you've never heard Graham McNamee before, you'll hear him on these discs! He was the champion commentator, doing the color on the Lindbergh arrival, as well as doing a lot of sports coverage. His oratorical, terse, delivery died in the early thirties. While I understand that the issue here is records, if you want to see actual footage, with the McNamee sound dubbed (synchronized motion picture was a few months in the future that month), look into the movie:"Lindbergh's Great Race". I have it, and you'll find that there must have been thousands of feet of film coverage, of Lindbergh's flight, and all of the activity in Europe, and then, at the reviewing stand in DC. You'll see the Cruiser Memphis, that brought him home, and all of the pomp and ceremony that resulted from his flight. I feel that this is the best display of Lindbergh's activity that ever there has been. You'll hear all of the sound on the movie, that Victor recorded, and more. Maybe some day, I to, might have all of the records, but I'm happy with the movie. It's a lot cheaper than some of these recordings have gone fore at auctions! Douglas Houston cdh041 at earthlink.net From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Fri Sep 25 18:23:20 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 Message-ID: <408077825.4947171253928200394.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cj7MOCdpk I am looking to try an pin down what type of Victor Finish this might be, but it is hard to determine from the small samples that are shown in Victor Data Book. Anyone care to offer an opinion. Thanks, Bruce From gbogantz1 at charter.net Fri Sep 25 18:51:15 2009 From: gbogantz1 at charter.net (Greg Bogantz) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:51:15 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 References: <408077825.4947171253928200394.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I think that is probably what was known as "Flemish oak". Very, very dark, almost black with a semi-gloss finish. I have an Edison C-250 in flemish oak which is a very rare finish for a DD machine. I've seen only one other example. It's the only Edison finish that looks remotely this dark. The other possibilities shown in Baumbach's latest LFTD book might be "gunmetal" (perhaps a bit greenish or bluish) or "driftwood", but I think those finishes were both less glossy than what's seen in this video. Or perhaps it is "Early English" as the owner speculates in the video. Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "MOCAPS" Cc: "Phono-L" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cj7MOCdpk > > > I am looking to try an pin down what type of Victor Finish this might be, > but it is hard to determine from the small samples that are shown in > Victor Data Book. > > Anyone care to offer an opinion. > > Thanks, > > Bruce > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Fri Sep 25 19:17:21 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I believe that the finish is Antique English Oak. I have a 1912 Victrola XVI that I'm restoring that has that same finish. Harvey Kravitz --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Greg Bogantz wrote: From: Greg Bogantz Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 6:51 PM ???I think that is probably what was known as "Flemish oak".? Very, very dark, almost black with a semi-gloss finish.? I have an Edison C-250 in flemish oak which is a very rare finish for a DD machine.? I've seen only one other example.? It's the only Edison finish that looks remotely this dark.? The other possibilities shown in Baumbach's latest LFTD book might be "gunmetal" (perhaps a bit greenish or bluish) or "driftwood", but I think those finishes were both less glossy than what's seen in this video.? Or perhaps it is "Early English" as the owner speculates in the video. Greg Bogantz ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "MOCAPS" Cc: "Phono-L" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cj7MOCdpk > > > I am looking to try an pin down what type of Victor Finish this might be, but it is hard to determine from the small samples that are shown in Victor Data Book. > > Anyone care to offer an opinion. > > Thanks, > > Bruce > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From majesticrecord at snet.net Fri Sep 25 19:56:23 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records In-Reply-To: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16" Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe.? I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped.? What are they made of?? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office?? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't?always listen completely!? What do these go for?? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Fri Sep 25 20:47:45 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records In-Reply-To: <398556795.4968391253936327478.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1584519048.4969441253936865578.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> These records were designed to play loud and at about 120rpms, and were made for Dance Halls. They were the last vertical groove saphire ball records made by Pathe in the early 1920s, and Pathe made a short lived special phonograph to play them. Today you will have to find a transcription phonograph to play them. As for price, assuming the records are in good condition figure 45 - 85 dollars depending on the selection. Jazz numbers will command the higher price, boring ballads etc. the lower price. They are heavy shellac records. They are acutally a little less then 16" so you can shp them in a heavy cardboard 16" Pizza box (don't laugh, it works) as long as you sandwich them between some sturdy cardboard and cover that for further protection with some bubble wrap. Be sure and stamp the box fragile, and insure them. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Longwell" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:56:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16" Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe. I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped. What are they made of? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't always listen completely! What do these go for? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From veomec at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 25 23:05:07 2009 From: veomec at sbcglobal.net (Carol Veome) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records In-Reply-To: <554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <690712.31208.qm@web82103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Phono infor.? Save the addresses. CV --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Glenn Longwell wrote: From: Glenn Longwell Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 9:56 PM I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16" Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe.? I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped.? What are they made of?? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office?? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't?always listen completely!? What do these go for?? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From zonophone2006 at aol.com Sat Sep 26 01:11:35 2009 From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:11:35 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records In-Reply-To: <554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC0C98198348E4-5844-BBAF@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> hi i had mine shipping and he put them between two pieces of hard board or masonite and they came from france shipping was expensive but they came with no damage zono -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Longwell To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 10:56 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Pathe 16" Giant Records I've been contacted by someone who has two of these 16" Pathe records and two Music Service Co. Inc. records pressed by Pathe.? I'm thinking of making an offer on them but am concerned about having them shipped.? What are they made of?? Are they shellac and unlikely to make a journey through the post office?? I can guide them on shipping methods but people don't?always listen completely!? What do these go for?? Playing them will be a different dilemna but I'll deal with that later. Thanks, Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jackwhelan at hotmail.com Sat Sep 26 05:22:14 2009 From: jackwhelan at hotmail.com (Jack Whelan) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:22:14 +0000 Subject: [Phono-L] [MOCAPS-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 In-Reply-To: <408077825.4947171253928200394.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <408077825.4947171253928200394.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Bruce, Victor Talking Machines (VTM) offered a very wide selection of finishes on several types of woods. These finishes could be custom ordered. The tiger strip of your oak wood is easy to identify, but the variety of stains on oak made identification a bit more difficult. I believe that finish is GM. Gunmetal Oak. GM on oak is actually a bit darker than EE English Oak. To match GM on oak today, I'd use Jacobean color stain. I've not seen any evidence that VTM used Irish Oak. Jack To: Mocaps-L at yahoogroups.com CC: Phono-L at oldcrank.org From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:23:20 +0000 Subject: [MOCAPS-L] Type of Finish on Victor VV-100 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8cj7MOCdpk I am looking to try an pin down what type of Victor Finish this might be, but it is hard to determine from the small samples that are shown in Victor Data Book. Anyone care to offer an opinion. 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Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1 From majesticrecord at snet.net Sat Sep 26 14:16:13 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: <8CC0C98198348E4-5844-BBAF@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> References: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <8CC0C98198348E4-5844-BBAF@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <843645.24134.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I rescued a Grafonola E-2 today from making it to the dump. It was not restorable as the bottom half was pretty bad, including a hole punched through the side of it. If anyone needs parts off of this let me know off list. Interesting find behind the record storage, a 4" Durium Junior by the College Humor Trio. Can't wait to listen to it... Glenn From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Sat Sep 26 14:35:25 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: <843645.24134.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1204210502.5081911254000925886.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Congratulations on that Durium Jr. find. Would love to find out who the College Humor Trio really was. As well as hearing it. Make sure to bring it to a future MOCAPS meeting. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Longwell" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:16:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 I rescued a Grafonola E-2 today from making it to the dump. It was not restorable as the bottom half was pretty bad, including a hole punched through the side of it. If anyone needs parts off of this let me know off list. Interesting find behind the record storage, a 4" Durium Junior by the College Humor Trio. Can't wait to listen to it... Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Sat Sep 26 19:52:13 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:52:13 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: <843645.24134.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <703393.29178.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com><554772.53919.qm@web83706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><8CC0C98198348E4-5844-BBAF@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> <843645.24134.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1C0E3EE2BAB14C2C8FB6881819BB9AA7@ronlherault> Was the College Humor Trio related to the Magazine, "College Humor"? I've got one edition with an article about Coon and Sanders. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Longwell Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:16 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 I rescued a Grafonola E-2 today from making it to the dump. It was not restorable as the bottom half was pretty bad, including a hole punched through the side of it. If anyone needs parts off of this let me know off list. Interesting find behind the record storage, a 4" Durium Junior by the College Humor Trio. Can't wait to listen to it... Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From majesticrecord at snet.net Sun Sep 27 07:21:56 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: <1204210502.5081911254000925886.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1204210502.5081911254000925886.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <207064.13140.qm@web83712.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Listened to the Durium Jr last night.? As I thought when I first saw it - it's an advertisement.? But seeing College Humor Trio made me think maybe it was just the song listed, "Banks of the Wabash."? Well they sing it for a little bit then it's an advertisment for a magazine called College Humor (good call Ron L).? With the tonearm on my Stanton turntable I couldn't play the whole thing.? The inside diameter of this record is so small my tonearm isn't long enough. A very quick search found this on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Humor_(magazine) Also, this record is part of the listing of records for a 1931 Durium compilation - http://www.venerablemusic.com/catalog/TitleDetails.asp?TitleID=13334 Glenn ________________________________ From: "bruce78rpm at comcast.net" To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:35:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 Congratulations on that Durium Jr. find. Would love to find out who the College Humor Trio really was. As well as hearing it. Make sure to bring it to a future MOCAPS meeting. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Longwell" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:16:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 I rescued a Grafonola E-2 today from making it to the dump. It was not restorable as the bottom half was pretty bad, including a hole punched through the side of it. If anyone needs parts off of this let me know off list. Interesting find behind the record storage, a 4" Durium Junior by the College Humor Trio. Can't wait to listen to it... Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Sun Sep 27 07:59:04 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:04 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 Message-ID: I strongly recommend the three Volumes of hit of the week records on CD. They are the best! True quality sound and the best part are the booklets. The booklets are loaded with history, not only the hit of the week history, but artists and tune history. The fourth volume is forthcoming and should capture the remaining songs in the series. These CDs are so great that I listen to them at work on a regular basis! Brantley Williston, S.C. From andy at popyrus.com Sun Sep 27 15:39:52 2009 From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:39:52 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] Lindbergh recordings In-Reply-To: <410-220099525221124671@earthlink.net> References: <410-220099525221124671@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <41E98D2C-8A06-45EE-96DF-ABADB8C5E756@popyrus.com> Thanks, Douglas for this tip. Andy On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Douglas Houston wrote: > I have been able to get a couple of the Lindbergh records. I believe > that one was a 10 inch, and another a 12 inch. They were all taken > from the NBC network lines. If you've never heard Graham McNamee > before, you'll hear him on these discs! He was the champion > commentator, doing the color on the Lindbergh arrival, as well as > doing a lot of sports coverage. His oratorical, terse, delivery > died in the early thirties. > > While I understand that the issue here is records, if you want to > see actual footage, with the McNamee sound dubbed (synchronized > motion picture was a few months in the future that month), look > into the movie:"Lindbergh's Great Race". I have it, and you'll find > that there must have been thousands of feet of film coverage, of > Lindbergh's flight, and all of the activity in Europe, and then, at > the reviewing stand in DC. You'll see the Cruiser Memphis, that > brought him home, and all of the pomp and ceremony that resulted > from his flight. I feel that this is the best display of Lindbergh's > activity that ever there has been. You'll hear all of the sound on > the movie, that Victor recorded, and more. > > Maybe some day, I to, might have all of the records, but I'm happy > with the movie. It's a lot cheaper than some of these recordings > have gone fore at auctions! > > > Douglas Houston > cdh041 at earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From maffit2 at bresnan.net Mon Sep 28 19:51:51 2009 From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:51:51 -0600 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <024201ca40af$cd9774b0$68c65e10$@net> Brantley: Do you have the link to where they can be obtained? Thanks Bob -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:59 AM To: phono-l at oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 I strongly recommend the three Volumes of hit of the week records on CD. They are the best! True quality sound and the best part are the booklets. The booklets are loaded with history, not only the hit of the week history, but artists and tune history. The fourth volume is forthcoming and should capture the remaining songs in the series. These CDs are so great that I listen to them at work on a regular basis! Brantley Williston, S.C. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2391 - Release Date: 09/28/09 17:53:00 From chrisk33 at cox.net Mon Sep 28 20:52:59 2009 From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:52:59 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 In-Reply-To: <024201ca40af$cd9774b0$68c65e10$@net> References: <024201ca40af$cd9774b0$68c65e10$@net> Message-ID: <4AC1849B.1010407@cox.net> Bob, try Amazon. There are several in the "new and used" category for less than the Amazon store price. Chris Bob Maffit wrote: > Brantley: > > Do you have the link to where they can be obtained? > > Thanks > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com > Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:59 AM > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 > > I strongly recommend the three Volumes of hit of the week records on CD. > They are the best! True quality sound and the best part are the booklets. > The booklets are loaded with history, not only the hit of the week history, > but artists and tune history. The fourth volume is forthcoming and should > capture the remaining songs in the series. > > These CDs are so great that I listen to them at work on a regular basis! > > Brantley > Williston, S.C. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2391 - Release Date: 09/28/09 > 17:53:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From nipper at dataex.com Tue Sep 29 06:27:31 2009 From: nipper at dataex.com (Robin Rolfs) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:27:31 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] CD's References: <024201ca40af$cd9774b0$68c65e10$@net> <4AC1849B.1010407@cox.net> Message-ID: <9ECC3761E7CC4FDAA812562D635A3B11@owner094cc0223> You can get them from the source. www.archeophone.com Rich & Magen Hennesey have a huge variety of favorites. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Kocsis" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 > Bob, try Amazon. There are several in the "new and used" category for > less than the Amazon store price. > > Chris > > Bob Maffit wrote: >> Brantley: >> >> Do you have the link to where they can be obtained? >> >> Thanks >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:59 AM >> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 >> >> I strongly recommend the three Volumes of hit of the week records on CD. >> They are the best! True quality sound and the best part are the >> booklets. The booklets are loaded with history, not only the hit of the >> week history, but artists and tune history. The fourth volume is >> forthcoming and should capture the remaining songs in the series. >> >> These CDs are so great that I listen to them at work on a regular basis! >> >> Brantley >> Williston, S.C. >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: >> 270.13.112/2391 - Release Date: 09/28/09 >> 17:53:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From smstitt at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 09:27:40 2009 From: smstitt at gmail.com (Mike Stitt) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:27:40 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] Bob Olson/Jack Palmer Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0909290927x6663c469k425267920a148b9a@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone. Anybody out there have a current email address for Jack Palmer. I'm hoping he has a phone number for Bob Olson. Bob collaborated on Jack's book. Long story short I just talked to Bob and put his new phone number in a safe place, so safe I can't find it! I hear this memory problem improves with age. After a while you just don't care anymore. Mike.. aka oldcranky From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Tue Sep 29 19:15:18 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:15:18 EDT Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola E-2 Message-ID: In a message dated 9/29/2009 12:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maffit2 at bresnan.net writes: > maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit) > Bob, The link is: www.archeophone.com Rich is great to work with and has many great CDs to offer. The quality is second to none! You'll love the CDs they offer. Hope you enjoy them as much as I do. Brantley From smstitt at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 22:18:02 2009 From: smstitt at gmail.com (Mike Stitt) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:18:02 -0700 Subject: [Phono-L] J Palmer/Bob Olson Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0909292218l3ab8eb6o20939f448eb94a59@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone. Anybody out there have a current email address for Jack Palmer. I'm hoping he has a phone number for Bob Olson. Bob collaborated on Jack's book. Long story short I just talked to Bob and put his new phone number in a safe place, so safe I can't find it! I hear this memory problem improves with age. After a while you just don't care anymore. Mike.. aka oldcranky