[Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
Andrew Baron
andy at popyrus.com
Tue Oct 20 11:28:35 PDT 2009
Hi Ken ~ As timing would have it (of course), I'm on a deadline this
week, but will try to find time within the next couple of days
(hopefully) to post some photos and post a link in Phono-L.
I wanted to take some "before" pictures, but the urge to start
cleaning the cabinet (with just a little Howard's Restore-A-Finish)
won out. Still, it's going to take quite a lot of gentle, observant
and conscientious scrubbing to really bring out the glow that I know
is going to be there. So, I'll get some photos before I start on this
in earnest.
Andy
On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ken and Brenda Brekke wrote:
> Congrats!!!! Any chance of posting pictures???
> Ken B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Baron
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 6:46 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
>
> From time to time, I've derived vicarious pleasure from reading of
> some of
> the phono-L members' coincidental discovery and acquisition of a
> particularly sought-after or scarce phonograph.
>
> In general, most of the membership are in areas that are either more
> populated, or nearer to denser metropolitan areas than here in Santa
> Fe, NM.
> Roll back the calendar a few decades, and my region is pretty sparsely
> populated, with more ranching than any kind of manufacturing or
> other work
> that would draw a larger population.
>
> Fewer people = fewer manufactured goods, including phonographs. Add
> to this
> the budget for a machine that most New Mexicans had (or prioritized
> for
> music) a century or so ago, and you have relatively few phonographs
> to begin
> with, and most of those in the low-to-middle cost range. Edison
> Standards,
> Victrola IV's, X's and XI's, and low- end Columbias are inevitably the
> models that turn up, and usually in none too good a condition if not
> out of
> a collection. Naturally some desirable machines were brought here
> later on,
> but by and large this hasn't amounted to anything significant, and
> there
> isn't much of a collecting community here.
>
> So opportunities to build a collection are rather limited. That
> being said,
> I started collecting in 1974, when I was 12, and my Victor 8-30X,
> Edison
> maroon Gem, Edison early A-250 and a Zonophone Grand
> Opera were all acquired here in Santa Fe, current population 72,000.
> Not exactly a small town, but outside of Albuquerque, we are
> geographically
> isolated from the big population centers. The Zonophone was brought
> here
> from New England in the '70s, when its past owner moved here.
>
> To the subject at hand:
> Two days ago, a big local consignment shop was having their annual
> Fall
> sale; everything 30% off. This event draws what seems like half of
> Santa
> Fe, and while my wife and I usually attend it, we generally wait
> until late
> in the day to avoid the pressing crowds. Anyway, most of what the
> shop
> sells is vintage furniture, rugs, artwork, etc., some of it quite
> nice, but
> rarely anything of particular interest to a phonograph collector, so
> no
> penalty for arriving when convenient.
>
> We had been browsing around for about a quarter of an hour when the
> proprietor let me know that there were "a couple of Victrolas" in
> the next
> room. We continued looking around in the part of the store where we
> currently were, and after about ten minutes more, I finally said
> that I'd
> like to take a look and see what the phonographs were. We headed
> casually
> across the distance, through the crowds of people and things toward
> the next
> room. No sooner had I uttered the words "These machines are going
> to be
> examples of the most common models, and probably overpriced", than I
> could
> see the unmistakable silhouette of Victor XVII or XVIII, just
> sticking out
> beyond the wall separating the rooms.
>
> Quickening my pace (they were still 20 feet away), I prepared my
> mind to see
> a Victor XVII, the alternative possibility being somewhat beyond my
> powers
> of imagination. Still, a Victor XVII would be a great find although I
> already own one (courtesy of a very kind tip from a thoughtful phono-L
> member, $200, and a 125 mile round-trip to Albuquerque).
>
> Coming up alongside the curvy machine, I noticed first that the top
> curl of
> the rear corner post was mostly missing -- a clean break from
> bashing the
> machine into a wall or truck bed, no doubt. I also noticed the fine,
> expressive trim on the cabinet side and the chevron- shaped veneer
> pattern
> and practically leapt the last couple of feet so I could see the
> front of
> the machine, which left no doubt.
>
> There's something unbelievable about finding a top-end machine in New
> Mexico, and even though I have the XVII, and was already well aware
> of the
> differences, I had to see the VV-XVIII on the ID plate with my own
> eyes.
> The 3-digit serial number was also a strange thing to behold on a
> New Mexico
> Victrola. This was a dirty, dusty machine, with some of its edges
> and trim
> scraped up from careless handling, but at a glance, in generally
> good and
> very solid shape except for a few scrapes and that broken-off upper
> rear
> corner piece. Definitely not something out of someone's phonograph
> collection, and just as you like to find them
> -- clearly untouched for decades.
>
> A quick appraisal of what it had to offer revealed:
> Original gold V key;
> Gold needle cup, all original casters, all correct knobs, front and
> back;
> Large, gold crank escutcheon detached and screws missing, but still
> sitting
> on the crank about a half-inch out from the side of the cabinet; Near
> perfect felt on the platter; Almost certainly the original gold
> Exhibition
> soundbox, Ser. #87347B, never rebuilt; Very, very dirty under the
> lid and in
> general (what is this greasy, black stuff?); Most of the record
> storage area
> filled with (non-Victor) matched albums full of classical records, and
> otherwise stuffed to the gills with sheet music; Missing the lower key
> escutcheon and motor lift knob (and that maddeningly absent corner
> curl).
>
> Price, $650, minus 30%.
>
> Sold!
>
> It's home now, and I'm having fun cleaning it up and getting more
> intimately
> familiar with its exquisite details, and learning why this model is so
> prized. It's going to be quite nice, ultimately, with a respectable
> original finish, after a many hours of carefully applied elbow
> grease and
> the appropriate preparations. The fancy work and doors on the back
> with
> their gold-plated hardware, concealing a nice compartment came as a
> complete
> surprise. You never see this view in the books. The motor is
> relatively
> clean (very little of the usual greasy build-up, just a yellowed
> film of old
> hard residue). A couple drops of oil in all the pertinent places,
> and a
> light coat of fresh
> grease on the governor worm, and it runs very quietly and evenly.
> Even the speed indicator works. The main springs thud something
> awful when
> winding down though, so I'll treat the motor to a proper tear- down
> and
> rebuild when I attend to those noisy springs.
>
> Comparing the total production of the spring-motor XVIII to the
> number of
> Victrolas produced puts it at something like 0.0004 of the total
> 1906 - 1929 production, and .0009 of the 1906-1920 production total
> (Roman
> numeral model-number era). This equates to less than one-tenth of one
> percent of the total production of the early Victrola era, and less
> than
> half of that when considering the total Victrola era, if I did my math
> right.
>
> Finally (for those who've had the patience to read this far), the
> gold-
> plated motor lift knob was found in the needle cup, and the broken-off
> upper-rear corner was found otherwise undamaged, in a recess of the
> cabinet.
> It proved a seamless fit to the fracture surface. Anyone got a key
> escutcheon?
>
> I hope you've enjoyed this story, still fresh from the event and
> accurately
> conveyed, and I wish similarly exciting phonograph discoveries for
> those of
> you who have not yet had the pleasure.
>
> Kindest regards,
> Andy Baron
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