[Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

Kat Hall kathall21 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 20:42:37 PDT 2009


Congratulations.  You never know when you will find a gem.  The thrill of 
finding something that you collect is exhilarating.

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From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 5:45 PM
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

> From time to time, I've derived vicarious pleasure from reading of  some 
> of the phono-L members' coincidental discovery and acquisition of  a 
> particularly sought-after or scarce phonograph.
>
> In general, most of the membership are in areas that are either more 
> populated, or nearer to denser metropolitan areas than here in Santa  Fe, 
> NM.  Roll back the calendar a few decades, and my region is pretty 
> sparsely populated, with more ranching than any kind of manufacturing  or 
> other work that would draw a larger population.
>
> Fewer people = fewer manufactured goods, including phonographs.  Add  to 
> this the budget for a machine that most New Mexicans had (or  prioritized 
> for music) a century or so ago, and you have relatively  few phonographs 
> to begin with, and most of those in the low-to-middle  cost range.  Edison 
> Standards, Victrola IV's, X's and XI's, and low- end Columbias are 
> inevitably the models that turn up, and usually in  none too good a 
> condition if not out of a collection.  Naturally some  desirable machines 
> were brought here later on, but by and large this  hasn't amounted to 
> anything significant, and there isn't much of a  collecting community 
> here.
>
> So opportunities to build a collection are rather limited. That being 
> said, I started collecting in 1974, when I was 12, and my Victor  8-30X, 
> Edison maroon Gem, Edison early A-250 and a Zonophone Grand  Opera were 
> all acquired here in Santa Fe, current population 72,000.   Not exactly a 
> small town, but outside of Albuquerque, we are  geographically isolated 
> from the big population centers.  The  Zonophone was brought here from New 
> England in the '70s, when its past  owner moved here.
>
> To the subject at hand:
> Two days ago, a big local consignment shop was having their annual  Fall 
> sale; everything 30% off.  This event draws what seems like half  of Santa 
> Fe, and while my wife and I usually attend it, we generally  wait until 
> late in the day to avoid the pressing crowds.  Anyway, most  of what the 
> shop sells is vintage furniture, rugs, artwork, etc., some  of it quite 
> nice, but rarely anything of particular interest to a  phonograph 
> collector, so no penalty for arriving when convenient.
>
> We had been browsing around for about a quarter of an hour when the 
> proprietor let me know that there were "a couple of Victrolas" in the 
> next room.  We continued looking around in the part of the store where  we 
> currently were, and after about ten minutes more, I finally said  that I'd 
> like to take a look and see what the phonographs were.  We  headed 
> casually across the distance, through the crowds of people and  things 
> toward the next room.  No sooner had I uttered the words "These  machines 
> are going to be examples of the most common models, and  probably 
> overpriced", than I could see the unmistakable silhouette of  Victor XVII 
> or XVIII, just sticking out beyond the wall separating the  rooms.
>
> Quickening my pace (they were still 20 feet away), I prepared my mind  to 
> see a Victor XVII, the alternative possibility being somewhat  beyond my 
> powers of imagination.  Still, a Victor XVII would be a  great find 
> although I already own one (courtesy of a very kind tip  from a thoughtful 
> phono-L member, $200, and a 125 mile round-trip to  Albuquerque).
>
> Coming up alongside the curvy machine, I noticed first that the top  curl 
> of the rear corner post was mostly missing -- a clean break from  bashing 
> the machine into a wall or truck bed, no doubt.  I also  noticed the fine, 
> expressive trim on the cabinet side and the chevron- shaped veneer pattern 
> and practically leapt the last couple of feet so  I could see the front of 
> the machine, which left no doubt.
>
> There's something unbelievable about finding a top-end machine in New 
> Mexico, and even though I have the XVII, and was already well aware of 
> the differences, I had to see the VV-XVIII on the ID plate with my own 
> eyes.  The 3-digit serial number was also a strange thing to behold on  a 
> New Mexico Victrola.  This was a dirty, dusty machine, with some of  its 
> edges and trim scraped up from careless handling, but at a glance,  in 
> generally good and very solid shape except for a few scrapes and  that 
> broken-off upper rear corner piece.  Definitely not something out  of 
> someone's phonograph collection, and just as you like to find them  --  
> clearly untouched for decades.
>
> A quick appraisal of what it had to offer revealed:
> Original gold V key;
> Gold needle cup, all original casters, all correct knobs, front and  back;
> Large, gold crank escutcheon detached and screws missing, but still 
> sitting on the crank about a half-inch out from the side of the cabinet;
> Near perfect felt on the platter;
> Almost certainly the original gold Exhibition soundbox, Ser. #87347B, 
> never rebuilt;
> Very, very dirty under the lid and in general (what is this greasy,  black 
> stuff?);
> Most of the record storage area filled with (non-Victor) matched  albums 
> full of classical records, and otherwise stuffed to the gills  with sheet 
> music;
> Missing the lower key escutcheon and motor lift knob (and that 
> maddeningly absent corner curl).
>
> Price, $650, minus 30%.
>
> Sold!
>
> It's home now, and I'm having fun cleaning it up and getting more 
> intimately familiar with its exquisite details, and learning why this 
> model is so prized.  It's going to be quite nice, ultimately, with a 
> respectable original finish, after a many hours of carefully applied 
> elbow grease and the appropriate preparations.  The fancy work and  doors 
> on the back with their gold-plated hardware, concealing a nice 
> compartment came as a complete surprise.  You never see this view in  the 
> books.  The motor is relatively clean (very little of the usual  greasy 
> build-up, just a yellowed film of old hard residue).  A couple  drops of 
> oil in all the pertinent places, and a light coat of fresh  grease on the 
> governor worm, and it runs very quietly and evenly.   Even the speed 
> indicator works.  The main springs thud something awful  when winding down 
> though, so I'll treat the motor to a proper tear- down and rebuild when I 
> attend to those noisy springs.
>
> Comparing the total production of the spring-motor XVIII to the number  of 
> Victrolas produced puts it at something like 0.0004 of the total  1906 - 
> 1929 production, and .0009 of the 1906-1920 production total  (Roman 
> numeral model-number era).  This equates to less than one-tenth  of one 
> percent of the total production of the early Victrola era, and  less than 
> half of that when considering the total Victrola era, if I  did my math 
> right.
>
> Finally (for those who've had the patience to read this far), the gold- 
> plated motor lift knob was found in the needle cup, and the broken-off 
> upper-rear corner was found otherwise undamaged, in a recess of the 
> cabinet.  It proved a seamless fit to the fracture surface.  Anyone  got a 
> key escutcheon?
>
> I hope you've enjoyed this story, still fresh from the event and 
> accurately conveyed, and I wish similarly exciting phonograph  discoveries 
> for those of you who have not yet had the pleasure.
>
> Kindest regards,
> Andy Baron
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