[Phono-L] MAPS going strong - (was Looking for theVernonDalhartBook)

Ron L'Herault lherault at bu.edu
Sun Jun 21 12:00:29 PDT 2009


Unfortunately, not everyone has a computer and is on the web.  I know
several older and a few younger people who do not and who do not wish too.

Offering a web based one as an alternative would be a good idea.  It would
save on postage and printing costs, maximizing the use of dues money, I
would imagine.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Zonophone2006 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:37 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MAPS going strong - (was Looking for
theVernonDalhartBook)

HELLO ALL
i wonder if they did a web based maps periodical if that might be easier to 
 get someone to do
and less money
i know a scott malawski is younger than you jeff but you do have a good  
point
rob
 
 
In a message dated 6/20/2009 7:46:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffryy at prevea.com writes:

Just a  comment in passing!? My son Greg (12 and 1/2 years old) and I
were on our  way into Jaspers on Saturday night after a day at Union.
Randy Doneley  mentions on the way in that "you are the youngest
collector at the show,  and we need to do something to change that! It is
good that you are  bringing your son!" He was talking about ME, not GREG!

I will be 50 in  September. If Randy's comment is even close to being
prophetic, as  collectors we are in big trouble, because there will be no
one left who is  interested in our collections. There is sort of an
analogy with pre-war and  post war Lionel trains. Look at the interest
and the values. It speaks for  itself.

I have been a member of MAPS since 1992. I am also a member of  the
Wisconsin Chapter, the very first sub-chapter of the original group.  The
monthly newsletter is great. Phil an Eileen do an incredible job.  Thank
you to those who contribute articles every single month! If it  were
easy, they would have had someone step up to the plate two years  ago
when they said they were getting tired. Does any one want this  job?
Hello-o-o-o-o? (Can you hear the echo?) It is a hell of a lot of  work
with few thank you's and far to many complaints. But, do we need  to
think beyond "dead tree media?" 

Do we need a more interactive  web site? The one we have is maintained
voluntarily. THANK YOU!!! Do we  need a phono BLOG on the site. Do we
need different areas like jass and  blues, R&B, spirituals, Cajun,
country? (If all this is there, and I  have not noticed, I apologize, it
has been awhile since I have been to the  site and don't mean to under
appreciate anyone.) How do you attract the  i-tunes crowd to the ORIGINAL
stuff, not just what they can download. Maybe  the desire to own the
ORIGINALS is just not there in our "knock-off" youth?  If we don't get
the kids involved by using TODAY'S technology, we will not  be able to
get them to appreciate the technology of the past! ALL IDEAS  WELCOME!
Let's brain storm.

Anyway, I am rambling. The Wisconsin  Chapter of MAPS used to run the
phonograph competition when the event was  held in Lansing. I understand
there is no longer a competition. It has been  a long time since I have
been to Phonovention, but I am going to  Phonovention this year! Thank
you Indiana Chapter! Even if you do not care  about the old music, the
Auburn/Cord/Duisenberg museum is GREAT!  

Thanks for  listening!

Regards,
Jeff
Wisconsin

-----Original  Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org  [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of Douglas Houston
Sent:  Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:10 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] MAPS going strong - (was Looking for  the
VernonDalhartBook)

Good message, Steve. Are you asking me, or  telling me? I've been a
member of MAPS since about 1981, so I do have an  idea what's going on
with the group here in Michigan. I've even written  articles on
occasiion. I did the presentation for, I believe, three of  the
phonoventions. You're in Philly, 600 miles from here,  and  I'm  in
Michigan, where this outfit is based. I don't think that  you've seen any
of what went on here. We see your articles, but we've never  seen you. 

My claim that MAPS is falling apart in Michigan is based on  the fact
that there are no monthly meetings, hosted by members who  are
collecters. I have a lot of radios (about 600), and probably  20
phonographs, many of them, part of the radios but there's no space  here
for hosting a meeting. Also, I'm no longer the kid that I was,  and
that's a factor as well. I enjoy sharing my chatter with the  other
members in the meetings. Don't get the idea for a second that I'm  a
freeloader. I sort of read that in your copy. We've lost the  cohesion
that we once had. Phil Stewart has wanted to pass the editorial  torch to
someone else, and there have been no takers. That's a thankless  job that
has to be done. The publication is the foundation of any  organization,
and you don't find  editors, standing around on some  street corner. In
the absence of a new taker, Phil consented to stay on for  a while
longer. How much longer will it be reasonable for Phil to hang on?  Like
all of us, he's going to 
need a rest. 

The interest is  here, but it has to be re-kindled, and hopefully to the
pitch that it once  was. That's going to take imagination, dedication,
and just plain  leadership. It isn't there now. Somebody has to take the
reins, and get  this rig back in motion. The monthly (or nearly so)
meetings were something  to liook forward to, and to remember afterwards.
That getting together once  made a strong, and enviable organization.
It's somewhere, asleep, and needs  to be awakened. I hope to live long
enough to see it.  None of that is  going to be easy, but it will be
rewarding, once it gets thing going again.  


> [Original Message]
> From:  <Srsells1 at aol.com>
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>  Date: 6/20/2009 10:43:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MAPS going strong -  (was Looking for the Vernon
DalhartBook)
>
> In a message dated  6/13/2009 11:05:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>  cdh041 at earthlink.net writes:
>
> Something got caught in the  machinery here. I must have been asleep
when I
> sent my last  message. Fer Pete's sake, all you have to do is contact
Phil
>  Stewart at: ITGMail at aol.com. Steve lives in Battle Creek and not  far
from
> Jack. Jack has been at several get-togethers in the years  since the
book
> was published, so he hadn't dropped out of sight  back then. MAPS has
pretty
> much fallen apart, and there are rarely  any meetings anymore. I
haven't
> seen Steve for quite a while,  sadly.  
>  
> Steve?  Steve who? (you never  mention a Steve).  As for MAPS
meetings, 
> they seem to be  happening monthly month as they are listed in In The
Groove 
> each  Month. (May meeting was at John Haugers). Are you in Michigan?
Are   you 
> involved at all in helping host a meeting?
>  
>  Also, MAPS has Chapters around the country - Oregon, Wisconsin and  New

> England - not just in MI.
>  
> Actually,  from what I know, the monthly meetings are small because
only a   
> percentage of members live within driving distance. And  the
Phonovention was 
>  moved because (as I understand it) they  had a host and it was easier
for 
> folks  to get  to.
>  
> The backbone of MAPS is the wonderful monthly  magazine "In The Groove"

> which is lovingly put together by Phil  and Eileen Stewart as Editors
and  
> Publishers. It's a lot of  work. I know because - for over 18 years
(yeesh!) I've  
> been  writing a monthly column for ITG (and have yet to miss an issue).
I do  
> it  for free and - believe me it IS a lot of work. The articles  in ITG
are 
> well  written and cataloged in Tim Brooks'  "Current Bibliography" in
the 
> ARSC Journal.  (I know for a  fact that some of the things I write
about are not 
> covered   ANYWHERE else.) The Calif. APS magazine  is a quarterly with 
>  articles but  no current news. ITG comes on time MONTHLY and has  free
classifieds 
> (though I  wish folks would send in NEW ones  instead of repeating the
same 
> ones each month   <g>).
>  
> With postage rates going up they had to  increase the dues (but gave  
> everyone a chance at "last year's  prices). MAPS is a non-profit and
the folks  
> putting out ITG  are not getting rich. 
>  
> So, I'm not sure what the issue  with monthly meetings is -(again, only
a 
> small portion of members  reside in MI) Anthony Sinclair, Ron
Dethlefson and I 
>  are  still cranking out what we hope are useful articles and columns
for  
> its  readers. (And a tip of the hat to the MAPS website  webmaster who
keeps it 
>  current.)
>  
>  Steve Ramm
>  
>  
>
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