[Phono-L] Edison London Console

Andrew Baron andy at popyrus.com
Thu Dec 24 16:30:55 PST 2009


First, use a flashlight to see if there's anything back there.  If  
there is, you can inquire of this group on the procedure for removing  
the slats.

Regarding the stubborn horn movement, are you doing the right thing  
when trying to move the horn assembly?  Are you aware of how to work  
the wood lever that's in the front right corner under the lid, and  
that you must first pivot it over to the right until it's horizontal,  
before rotating it counter-clockwise, along with a guiding hand on the  
upper part, to swivel the whole works, while the lever is still rocked  
all the way over level?

It's possible that there's a mechanical issue but you first want to be  
familiar with how to operate that lever to control the entire movement  
of the horn and neck.

It's also good to be aware that the damaged, etched grooves on the  
records can be caused -  not only by playing on a different kind of  
phonograph that has a steel needle (or with a steel-needle adaptor on  
an Edison), but also if played on a proper Edison disc machine, IF the  
diamond on the Edison reproducer is chipped or damaged.  So it's  
possible you may be in the market for a new stylus or a reproducer  
that has a viable one.  You can sometimes get them pretty cheap on  
eBay and get lucky on the condition of the diamond.

Regarding the "yucky" cabinet and mechanism, maybe they'll clean up as  
nicely as the records.  A little TLC can go a long way.  Old English  
Lemon Oil from the grocery store on the cabinet, or something like it,  
can work wonders.  Don't be so quick to dismiss the experience of  
seeing what this noble relic can do until you've gotten a little  
better acquainted with it.

Andy


On Dec 24, 2009, at 3:43 PM, ger wrote:

> LOL. I like the idea of possible hidden treasure. Can't wait for  
> Saturday.
> Now, to get behind the records area...how does one do that? The top  
> on that side does not come up. Only the grill area opens from the  
> front. I stuck my fingers into the slots and they seemed empty.  
> Fortunately nothing was living in there either. :)
>
> But, ya know, come to think of it, the weight seemed to be more on  
> the empty record side. hmmmmm Could be somebody added metal as  
> support I suppose. I really didn't get under and inspect every nook  
> and cranny. It was so yucky. And...don't forget, I am just an old  
> broad! ;)
>
> Yes. The thing cranks, turns on and off. But to get the horn to move  
> (from side to side), it needs some help. It moved a few times, then  
> got stubborn.
>
> This is getting more interesting. This group is great.
>
> Ger
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net
>  To: Antique Phonograph List
>  Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console
>
>
>  Wonder why it is so heavy, any possibility that more records got  
> pushed into the back of the record holding area, making the it more  
> heavy then it should be. That happened with a Sonora I purchased  
> about year and a half ago. The area to the rear of the record  
> compartment was litterally filled with a stash of old records (a few  
> real gems in there)as well as some original Sonora literature,  
> including a beautifully illustrated Sonora Catalogue detailing the  
> art models and bulge sided models, and many other details. You never  
> know what hidden treaures might lie in the nooks and cranies of  
> these old phonographs ! I am sure there are other tales others can  
> tell as well. As far as the machine is concerned, if all she wants  
> for it is 25bucks, you should grab it. The loose parts don't sound  
> like much of a problem and if you have a working motor, turntable  
> and crank, they are probably worth more then twice what you are  
> paying for the entire machine and cabinet. You can always buy a r
> ep
>   ro grill for that LC from one of the suppliers who advertises on  
> line, and have a complete working machine to play those records on.
>
>  Bruce
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "ger" <ger55 at comcast.net>
>  To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:51:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
> Eastern
>  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console
>
>  Hi,
>
>  How do I know what type of reproducer I have?
>  And what is the deal with the "Edisonic"??
>  Here's a link to photos:
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerdan/sets/72157622939629039/
>
>  The woman wants $25 for the rest of this machine...I don't know. It  
> is really heavy and missing the grill on the right, loose parts;  
> turntable goes around; she says it plays.
>
>  Ger
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bruce Mercer
>  To: Antique Phonograph List
>  Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 3:13 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console
>
>
>  Accordin to Frow they were introduced in 1922. They were sold along  
> with the
>  Edisonics and not further mentioned. Not to bore anybody again with  
> this
>  story but I bought one of the London Uprights that had never been  
> uncrated.
>  Fortunately, it had a nice new Edisonic reproducer just waiting for  
> me. ;-)
>  Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
>  To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:35 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison London Console
>
>
>> I believe the paper label on the inside indicates the number of the  
>> Edison
>> Cabinet Factory. The London Console came out in the early 1920's,  
>> and is a
>> common low priced model from Edison's "London Series".
>>
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