[Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M

[RBaumbach]

I have talked to many collectors, and no one has given me a definitive answer as to the full purpose of this piece.

Of course, it covers the holes that were drilled into the case for for the front mount arm, so it or something similar was required for any of the machines built for dealer conversion (from a Victor M to a Victor III, as an example).  This doesn't explain why there is a hole in the piece, however.  It certainly looks like Victor had something in mind for this hole.  The only explanation that I have ever heard that made any kind of sense was that the hole was designed to accept a rod which could offer additional support for a large horn, exactly as Jay speculated.  Remember that the rigid arm Victors have a relatively weak elbow, which is easily bent.  I have never seen such a supplemental support, however.


On MondayDecember 7, 2009, at December720093:12 PM, Mike Stitt wrote:

> Man Jay,
> A crane on a Victor machine!!! Johnson is rolling in his grave. Hell he hung
> huge horns on his back mount machines. Next time you are at Jerry's look
> around the basement. I'm waiting for the "big dogs" to chime in......
> Mike
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jay Horenstein <jay.horenstein at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> I thought it might be for a crane designed (probably never marketed) for
>> use
>> as additional support on a very large and/or heavy back mount horn.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:28 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M
>> 
>> 
>> That's what I always thought;  possibly to hold a crane for a front mount?
>> However every front mount Victor or Columbia I've ever seen has a cradle at
>> the front of the traveling arm to hold the horn,.  Someone out there must
>> know what it's for.
>> Bob
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
>> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M
>> 
>> 
>>> Isn't that left over from the earlier front mount configuration?
>>> 
>>> Ron L
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Bob
>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:53 AM
>>> To: Phono L List
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Hardware on Victor M
>>> 
>>>   There's a Victor M on eBay.  It's item #  330384586157.   Theres a
>>> piece
>>> on the back to the left of the backmount that I'm not sure what it is
>> for.
>>> If you look at picture #11 on the auctiion you can see it clearly.  I
>> have
>> 
>>> a
>>> similar Victor M with this part on it.  What's it for?
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