From deedeeblais at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  1 08:18:00 2009
From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Purchased on the way to CAPS
Message-ID: <838615.68724.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am leaving for CAPS today and added several more machines to the things that I'll be selling.  They include a Vic E (pre-dog with a Concert reproducer), Col AJ (side wind crank), Edison Concert (second style in green case), Edison Fireside (2&4 min with K reproducer), Col BET (2&4 min with black petal horn), and an Edison Triumph B (2 min).   The machines are a bit dusty but all are nice original machines.  I'll be on the road and the ONLY way to reach me will be by cell phone.  Please call 541-990-0781 at any reasonable hour in the Pacific time zone.  I have not had a chance to price things but they should be priced to sell.  Thanks, Jerry Blais


      

From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sat Aug  1 08:20:47 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 08:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Purchased on the way to CAPS
Message-ID: <411922.23676.qm@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looking forward to seeing you here Jerry!!

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, DeeDee Blais <deedeeblais at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: DeeDee Blais <deedeeblais at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Phono-L] Purchased on the way to CAPS
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:18 AM


I am leaving for CAPS today and added several more machines to the things that I'll be selling.? They include a Vic E (pre-dog with a Concert reproducer), Col AJ (side wind crank), Edison Concert (second style in green case), Edison Fireside (2&4 min with K reproducer), Col BET (2&4 min with black petal horn), and an Edison Triumph B (2 min).???The machines are a bit dusty but all are nice original machines.? I'll be on the road and the ONLY way to reach me will be by cell phone.? Please call 541-990-0781 at any reasonable hour in the Pacific time zone.? I have not had a chance to price things but they should be priced to sell.? Thanks, Jerry Blais


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From lherault at bu.edu  Sat Aug  1 09:59:34 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:59:34 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 0  Reproducer?
In-Reply-To: <FAA9E82F56F84C54BFA9F28600FFB91B@your4dacd0ea75>
References: <c83.418dad14.37a10c52@aol.com>
	<FAA9E82F56F84C54BFA9F28600FFB91B@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <28651CCB6D464B73A7FE872C652A8A25@ronlherault>

And why does it say "Exhibition" on the inside?

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:58 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 0 Reproducer?

Saw this on eBay   item #130322015477.  Not in any books I've ever seen. 
What  do you think? 

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From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Sat Aug  1 14:19:01 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:19:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost
	complete
Message-ID: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 


Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 



From edisone1 at verizon.net  Sat Aug  1 14:24:00 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:24:00 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is
	almost	complete
References: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1AE00ED8310F47FEA1E87744A06A27FF@moms>

I'm almost tempted to thrown in my own bid, just to see how high it can be 
pushed - but I don't want to get stuck with it !


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
To: "Phono-L" <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
Cc: "MOCAPS" <Mocaps-L at yahoogroups.com>; "Phonolist" 
<Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost 
complete


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123
>
>
> Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale 
> price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness.
>


From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sat Aug  1 15:04:48 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:04:48 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is
	almost	complete
In-Reply-To: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>


1. It appears genuine.

2. The seller appears to be knowledgeable and wrote an excellent ad.

3. Another seller listed a standard A so worn it had zero % pinstriping.  He said it was mint, the best he had ever seen.  It sold for over $700.00.


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 
> 
> 
> Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 
> 
> 
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sat Aug  1 15:10:38 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:10:38 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 0  Reproducer?
In-Reply-To: <28651CCB6D464B73A7FE872C652A8A25@ronlherault>
References: <c83.418dad14.37a10c52@aol.com>
	<FAA9E82F56F84C54BFA9F28600FFB91B@your4dacd0ea75> 
	<28651CCB6D464B73A7FE872C652A8A25@ronlherault>
Message-ID: <COL118-W4313854674ABCEAE31D42DF6110@phx.gbl>


It appears they used the Exhibition dies to further lower production costs.  That is what really puzzled me when I saw my first one.

> From: lherault at bu.edu
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:59:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 0  Reproducer?
> 
> And why does it say "Exhibition" on the inside?
> 
> Ron L
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 0 Reproducer?
> 
> Saw this on eBay   item #130322015477.  Not in any books I've ever seen. 
> What  do you think? 
> 
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From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Sat Aug  1 15:20:39 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:20:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is
	almost	complete
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <409460774.5085941249165239269.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Right, I have to remember not everyone is a collector with the knowledge of Crapophones, and wary of the ability of unscrupulous sellers to slick talk there way around these frauds. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Medved" <steve_noreen at msn.com> 
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 6:04:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost complete 


1. It appears genuine. 

2. The seller appears to be knowledgeable and wrote an excellent ad. 

3. Another seller listed a standard A so worn it had zero % pinstriping. He said it was mint, the best he had ever seen. It sold for over $700.00. 


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 
> 
> 
> Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sat Aug  1 15:22:11 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:22:11 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 0 Reproducer?
In-Reply-To: <8CBE06DD8456E84-828-1E81@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>
References: <c83.418dad14.37a10c52@aol.com><FAA9E82F56F84C54BFA9F28600FFB91B@your4dacd0ea75>
	<d14f697b0907311457v472c1e65y5fe0f789e286f9c9@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8CBE06DD8456E84-828-1E81@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W45BB28AA80E1A6A91ED5D0F6110@phx.gbl>


Tim,

The Victor Data Book states the type M, A, B, C, D, and E had the O reproducer and the last three the F, G, and H  from 1912 on had the regular exhibition.  Is it wrong?

Steve 


>  Just a note to mention that this particular soundbox was used only on the later Victor "0"s -- the first versions had regular Exhibitions. The impression has grown up that ALL "0"s take this "cut down" version of the Exhibition, and this is incorrect. This same soundbox was sold in Great Britain and Europe as an "Exhibtion Jr." or a "Zonophone." It had a brief but varied existence beginning around 1910. Best to all,
> 
> Tim Fabrizio
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Melvin <dan at old-phonographs.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 5:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 0 Reproducer?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is the correct reproducer for the Vic O and for the very early Victrola
> IV with the metal grill. It should go for a good amount. It's a hard
> reproducer to find and is very desierable.
> 
> It's mentioned in the Victor Data Book if I remember right.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Bob <rvuill at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Saw this on eBay   item #130322015477.  Not in any books I've ever seen.
> > What  do you think?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> >
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> 
> 
> 
>  
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sat Aug  1 15:31:11 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:31:11 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud
	is	almost	complete
In-Reply-To: <409460774.5085941249165239269.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>
	<409460774.5085941249165239269.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <COL118-W25BBAB96C9CEED2E9C55A1F6110@phx.gbl>


I was unsure until members of this list with better observation skills than myself began to make comments.  This appears to be a Frankenphone, made of original parts from several donors.  


> Right, I have to remember not everyone is a collector with the knowledge of Crapophones, and wary of the ability of unscrupulous sellers to slick talk there way around these frauds. 

> 
> 1. It appears genuine. 
> 
> 2. The seller appears to be knowledgeable and wrote an excellent ad. 
> 
> 3. Another seller listed a standard A so worn it had zero % pinstriping. He said it was mint, the best he had ever seen. It sold for over $700.00. 
> 
> 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Phono-L mailing list 
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
> _______________________________________________ 
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From jay.horenstein at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 16:01:31 2009
From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com (Jay Horenstein)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:01:31 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this
	fraud	is	almost	complete
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W25BBAB96C9CEED2E9C55A1F6110@phx.gbl>
References: <COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>	<409460774.5085941249165239269.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<COL118-W25BBAB96C9CEED2E9C55A1F6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4a74c976.16538c0a.13d4.1328@mx.google.com>

The suspense is terrible.  I hope it lasts.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Steven Medved
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:31 PM
To: Phono-l
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost
complete


I was unsure until members of this list with better observation skills than
myself began to make comments.  This appears to be a Frankenphone, made of
original parts from several donors.  


> Right, I have to remember not everyone is a collector with the knowledge
of Crapophones, and wary of the ability of unscrupulous sellers to slick
talk there way around these frauds. 

> 
> 1. It appears genuine. 
> 
> 2. The seller appears to be knowledgeable and wrote an excellent ad. 
> 
> 3. Another seller listed a standard A so worn it had zero % pinstriping.
He said it was mint, the best he had ever seen. It sold for over $700.00. 
> 
> 
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=A
DME:B:WNA:US:1123 
> > 
> > 
> > Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale
price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Phono-L mailing list 
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Phono-L mailing list 
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
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From sdcorbett at earthlink.net  Sat Aug  1 19:25:17 2009
From: sdcorbett at earthlink.net (Scott and Denise Corbett)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:25:17 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] 1 of a kind Edison for sale
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>
References: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004501ca1318$7a043780$6e0ca680$@net>

Hi Everyone,

        We will be taking a unique Edison phonograph to the CAPS (Calif.
Antique Phonograph Society) 24th annual show & sale next weekend, but we
thought we would first offer it to our friends at phono-L. 

The machine is an Edison Diamond Disc phonograph in a custom cabinet built
for one of the Edison phonograph executives. The hardware (knobs, key
plates, etc), record rack and mech are all Edison. The cabinet is walnut or
American walnut and the finish is in excellent original condition bar a few
scratches. It sits on eight turned legs with fancy cross bars. Inside is a
very clean late diamond disc mech with the 10 & 12 attachment AND is set to
play LONG PLAY records as well. It comes with a clean long play reproducer
and a beautiful gold plated Edisonic. There is no ID tag on this machine.
The name of the executive has been lost over the years. The gold on the
machine & crank is very bright and has weathered the years well.

It was purchased by a Mr. Lankhamer many years ago (possibly '50's or early
60's)from the family of the Edison executive. Tom Chandler purchased from
him in the 1970's or early 80's and it was his pride & joy and was in Tom's
living room until he passed over 12 years ago (leaving an estimated 1.2
million records in his estate!). It passed through my hands to another
collector and has found it's way back to me.
The asking price is $2,500 with both reproducers. Buyer has to arrange
shipping. 

This is my first time sending pictures, so if they don't come through, we
can email them to you.

In our 34 years of collecting, I have not seen anything like it. It is an
impressive piece!

Thanks,

-Scott & Denise Corbett
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From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  1 20:07:53 2009
From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (William Buchanan)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost
	complete
Message-ID: <121885.68455.qm@web57501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I got an email from the seller.
He did not care about what we thought of the phonograph he stilled called it a collector's item and wanted to get as much as possible from it. He went on to tell me that he really did not care if the buyer found it to be a fake as long as he got his money.

I really hope he sold this to a federal agent.

Bill

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, bruce78rpm at comcast.net <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:

From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost complete
To: "Phono-L" <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
Cc: "MOCAPS" <Mocaps-L at yahoogroups.com>, "Phonolist" <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:19 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 


Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 


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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sat Aug  1 20:15:59 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:15:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost
	complete
Message-ID: <536727.84851.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

He told me that he had described it as best he could and that was all he could do. I guess 'doing the right thing' didn't occur to him...

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, William Buchanan <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: William Buchanan <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost complete
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:07 PM


I got an email from the seller.
He did not care about what we thought of the phonograph he stilled called it a collector's item and wanted to get as much as possible from it. He went on to tell me that he really did not care if the buyer found it to be a fake as long as he got his money.

I really hope he sold this to a federal agent.

Bill

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, bruce78rpm at comcast.net <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:

From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Crapophone the sale of this fraud is almost complete
To: "Phono-L" <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
Cc: "MOCAPS" <Mocaps-L at yahoogroups.com>, "Phonolist" <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:19 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123 


Oh my, this Oxford Crapophone has exceeded all expectations for a sale price. I wonder how this has happened. Any ideas? this is shear craziness. 


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From rvuill at comcast.net  Sun Aug  2 10:07:32 2009
From: rvuill at comcast.net (Bob)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:07:32 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] 1 of a kind Edison for sale
References: <470863124.5079071249161541397.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><COL118-W6E7910DA44EFC8240E5AAF6110@phx.gbl>
	<004501ca1318$7a043780$6e0ca680$@net>
Message-ID: <2DFCF77D5E9D498483E191EECADB3B04@your4dacd0ea75>

Very interesting machine.  With record storage on either side of the 
turntable, I'm wondering where the crank is positioned?  Please advise.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] 1 of a kind Edison for sale


> Hi Everyone,
>
>        We will be taking a unique Edison phonograph to the CAPS (Calif.
> Antique Phonograph Society) 24th annual show & sale next weekend, but we
> thought we would first offer it to our friends at phono-L.
>
> The machine is an Edison Diamond Disc phonograph in a custom cabinet built
> for one of the Edison phonograph executives. The hardware (knobs, key
> plates, etc), record rack and mech are all Edison. The cabinet is walnut 
> or
> American walnut and the finish is in excellent original condition bar a 
> few
> scratches. It sits on eight turned legs with fancy cross bars. Inside is a
> very clean late diamond disc mech with the 10 & 12 attachment AND is set 
> to
> play LONG PLAY records as well. It comes with a clean long play reproducer
> and a beautiful gold plated Edisonic. There is no ID tag on this machine.
> The name of the executive has been lost over the years. The gold on the
> machine & crank is very bright and has weathered the years well.
>
> It was purchased by a Mr. Lankhamer many years ago (possibly '50's or 
> early
> 60's)from the family of the Edison executive. Tom Chandler purchased from
> him in the 1970's or early 80's and it was his pride & joy and was in 
> Tom's
> living room until he passed over 12 years ago (leaving an estimated 1.2
> million records in his estate!). It passed through my hands to another
> collector and has found it's way back to me.
> The asking price is $2,500 with both reproducers. Buyer has to arrange
> shipping.
>
> This is my first time sending pictures, so if they don't come through, we
> can email them to you.
>
> In our 34 years of collecting, I have not seen anything like it. It is an
> impressive piece!
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Scott & Denise Corbett
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sun Aug  2 12:40:28 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:40:28 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Zonophone version of the Victor O reproducer
Message-ID: <COL118-W20501DA60FE4CE897DD831F60E0@phx.gbl>


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110418060809

From gn at audio-restoration.com  Sun Aug  2 13:13:19 2009
From: gn at audio-restoration.com (Graham Newton)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:13:19 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] ScoreDisc...
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1247605933.15582.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
References: <mailman.9.1247605933.15582.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Message-ID: <4A75F35F.1080403@audio-restoration.com>


Here is a real "strange"... Have you any knowledge of ScoreDisc:-

For non-synchronous turntable playback of music to accompany film in the early 
days of sound before sound-on-film.

ScoreDisc a cardboard disc with slots cut it it to allow cueing the desired 
music to be played from phonograph discs supplied by a music library to follow 
the action on the screen.

Apparently they lay a specific ScoreDisc for the movie being shown on top of 
the ScoreDisc music disc to be played for a given scene, and place the playback 
needle *through* the required hole or slot punched in the ScoreDisc to contact 
the groove it is supposed to be playing!  This apparently holds the ScoreDisc 
motionless as the record rotates under it and the needle travels laterally 
across the record surface toward the end of the slot.

The cardboard ScoreDisc would thus be grinding any grit or dust into the record 
surface as the disc rotated with it in contact with the disc surface.  However 
with the discs being pressed in the very hard shellac/slate compounds of the 
day, and stylus pressures being on the order of 2 or 3 *ounces* this probably 
would not be of much consequence!

What a ghastly idea!  I can think of many pitfalls with this system and would 
not be surprised if it didn't catch on with the film exhibitors and 
particularly the projectionists who had to deal with this in a busy projection 
booth where a film reel was being consumed every 10 or 20 minutes.

Has anyone ever heard of this and, has anyone got any examples of the music 
discs or the ScoreDisc itself.  Perhaps a label photo or some other additional 
info on this wacky system!




... Graham Newton

-- 
Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com
World class professional services applied to tape or phonograph records for
consumers and re-releases, featuring CEDAR's CAMBRIDGE processes.

From jay.horenstein at gmail.com  Sun Aug  2 14:44:37 2009
From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com (Jay Horenstein)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:44:37 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <4a7608ed.16538c0a.13db.7762@mx.google.com>

Before I make an offer on the $70,000.00 "Silvertone Victrola with shroud of
Jesus",  I just wanted to make sure I didn't snatch it away from somebody
out there in need of healing.    Jay 


From estott at localnet.com  Sun Aug  2 16:51:45 2009
From: estott at localnet.com (estott at localnet.com)
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:51:45 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor "Pinafore" discs wanted
Message-ID: <20090802195145.a33f6knmacp44s04@webmail.localnet.com>



  Would anyone happen to have and spare discs from the Victor 1925 blue 
label HMS Pinafore set? I have an incomplete album and need discs 5 
through 8 (the side numbers are 9 through 16)

  Eric Stott

From maffit2 at bresnan.net  Sun Aug  2 21:14:16 2009
From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:14:16 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] question/ Brunswick Panatrope AZ-944
Message-ID: <002301ca13f0$df893370$9e9b9a50$@net>

Phono List:

 

I brought home today a Brunswick Panatrope AZ-944

 

I know very little regarding electric phonos and usually stay away from
them. This machine is "beautiful" and a work of craftsmanship, not to be
ignored. 

 

I would appreciate any information someone could direct me to. An E-mail
with the info pasted in the body works well for me.

 

Your comments are sought.

 

Near the pivot end of the tone arm, it appears something was threaded on an
opening, which opens into the back of the cabinet. What am I missing. 

 

Thanks in advance

 

Bob


From waykos at shaw.ca  Sun Aug  2 21:22:54 2009
From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:22:54 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor "O" reproducer
Message-ID: <8B58927AC996403A92E33AC79B000A08@WaynePC>

The Victor A,B,C,D toy,And "Monarch Special Deluxe" all came with a Johnson "New Century" reproducer that was designed by Gibson and sold to Victor and evolved into the Exhibition.The "Concert" was offered as a option.The Johnson "New Century" is very scare to find.Tim is correct in his comment on what came on the Victor "0" late and early.I have one that was put on a Berliner as a period (1900) up grade.

From lherault at bu.edu  Mon Aug  3 08:32:10 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:10 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia push button lid release
Message-ID: <004201ca144f$912603c0$56d6299b@ad.bu.edu>

A friend has turned up a Columbia table top Grafonola, possibly a 50 that
has a push button lid release.  Unfortunately it is missing a bolt of some
kind.   It is the bolt that attaches the arm to the end of the long rod that
comes off the spring-loaded button at the front of the lid.   The missing
bolt looks like it goes through the lid.  

Do any of our members have a push button release on one of their machines?
Is it an aftermarket device or a Columbia product?   Can you take a picture
of the bolt and any associated nuts/washers and provide dimensions?

Thanks,

Ron L


From funks2 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 08:45:53 2009
From: funks2 at comcast.net (michael and suellen funk)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:45:53 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <4a7608ed.16538c0a.13db.7762@mx.google.com>
References: <4a7608ed.16538c0a.13db.7762@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <410FBD59EEC943B6B2DC3E1AC698F146@your4dacd0ea75>

I think I have the matching Mary and Joseph ones if you want to complete the
set.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Jay Horenstein
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:45 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

Before I make an offer on the $70,000.00 "Silvertone Victrola with shroud of
Jesus",  I just wanted to make sure I didn't snatch it away from somebody
out there in need of healing.    Jay 

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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug  3 08:54:21 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:54:21 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research
Message-ID: <COL118-W9904639229E89F7CFD29FF60F0@phx.gbl>


What I am looking for are the serial numbers from Edison model O reproducers, especially those around 5000
and below and any above 60000.  I am trying to get an estimate on how many
of the all brass top O's were made.  I am also interested getting the serial
number from a heavy weight diamond B.  The extra weight attachment was
made universal so it fit either the diamond D or the heavy weight B.



Below is a short history of the large tops.  If anyone would like any
photos please let me know.  I have included photos of the heavy weight
attachment.  This particular one came from an Amberola 80's diamond D
reproducer.  I only have the photo, but I would be interested in
knowing if anyone knows of any Amberola 60's or 80's.  I know of three
80's, one that was on eBay, one in New Zealand, and one in the US.  If
requested information will be kept confidential.  



Steve



Around 3500 was an all brass top, 5080 is iron and brass, 12557 is iron and
brass, 13156 is pot metal, around 25000 the N joins in, around 27000 the tops
says TAE, 41,000 the early dome and trowel weight joins in, around 47000 the
late dome joins in, by 50,000 the late dome is predominant, around 65000 the
last O is made, 73,000 is the highest N I have seen.  Then the A series
starts and A350 is the highest one I know of.  



First N was round weight flat top, around 46000 the trowel O makes short
appearance, by 50000 the bent weight N appeared, there are five varieties, in
March 1913 the N-56 appears.  It has both N and R & S serial numbers.



The large top was strictly O until around 27000.  When the R and S
appeared the large tops were eventually made universal so the large top could
be made into an O, bent weight N, R or later and S reproducers.  To
accomplish this three holes were tapped and drilled on the bottom of the body
1-64 that way one hole could be used for the large top hinge block or the three
screws that held on the shoe adapter that allows the large top to become an R
or S.  A hole was drilled and tapped 0-110 for the limit pin of the
O.  If you look at an R or S you will see it is just a large top with a
shoe adapter, remove the shoe adapter and if the top is not swollen it will fit
in the large carriage.  The early R and S reproducers have a brass shoe
adapter, the late ones are pot metal.  The O is the only large top that
was not always pot metal, this includes the diamond B and C.  For the
first two years the diamond C had a brass sound tube but the top was always pot
metal.  307 is the earliest one I have ever worked on.  By 50000 the
large tops have a stable pot metal that some have thought was brass.
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug  3 08:55:41 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:55:41 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer reseach Diamond D heavy weight B extra weight
Message-ID: <COL118-W1306C3ACE7FB7B2C5D1C55F60F0@phx.gbl>


Shows underside of weight.
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From Aph4990 at aol.com  Mon Aug  3 11:33:53 2009
From: Aph4990 at aol.com (Aph4990 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:33:53 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>

I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the 
response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the 
response....
 
Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other 
picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
 
Art Heller

From rvuill at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 11:42:27 2009
From: rvuill at comcast.net (Bob)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:42:27 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research
References: <COL118-W9904639229E89F7CFD29FF60F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <73E2B40038634D5F8A942DCEA6842DC1@your4dacd0ea75>

I've never heard of an Amberola 60 or 80, only 30, 50, and 75.  What are4 
they?  Thanks
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Medved" <steve_noreen at msn.com>
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research


>
> What I am looking for are the serial numbers from Edison model O 
> reproducers, especially those around 5000
> and below and any above 60000.  I am trying to get an estimate on how many
> of the all brass top O's were made.  I am also interested getting the 
> serial
> number from a heavy weight diamond B.  The extra weight attachment was
> made universal so it fit either the diamond D or the heavy weight B.
>
>
>
> Below is a short history of the large tops.  If anyone would like any
> photos please let me know.  I have included photos of the heavy weight
> attachment.  This particular one came from an Amberola 80's diamond D
> reproducer.  I only have the photo, but I would be interested in
> knowing if anyone knows of any Amberola 60's or 80's.  I know of three
> 80's, one that was on eBay, one in New Zealand, and one in the US.  If
> requested information will be kept confidential.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Around 3500 was an all brass top, 5080 is iron and brass, 12557 is iron 
> and
> brass, 13156 is pot metal, around 25000 the N joins in, around 27000 the 
> tops
> says TAE, 41,000 the early dome and trowel weight joins in, around 47000 
> the
> late dome joins in, by 50,000 the late dome is predominant, around 65000 
> the
> last O is made, 73,000 is the highest N I have seen.  Then the A series
> starts and A350 is the highest one I know of.
>
>
>
> First N was round weight flat top, around 46000 the trowel O makes short
> appearance, by 50000 the bent weight N appeared, there are five varieties, 
> in
> March 1913 the N-56 appears.  It has both N and R & S serial numbers.
>
>
>
> The large top was strictly O until around 27000.  When the R and S
> appeared the large tops were eventually made universal so the large top 
> could
> be made into an O, bent weight N, R or later and S reproducers.  To
> accomplish this three holes were tapped and drilled on the bottom of the 
> body
> 1-64 that way one hole could be used for the large top hinge block or the 
> three
> screws that held on the shoe adapter that allows the large top to become 
> an R
> or S.  A hole was drilled and tapped 0-110 for the limit pin of the
> O.  If you look at an R or S you will see it is just a large top with a
> shoe adapter, remove the shoe adapter and if the top is not swollen it 
> will fit
> in the large carriage.  The early R and S reproducers have a brass shoe
> adapter, the late ones are pot metal.  The O is the only large top that
> was not always pot metal, this includes the diamond B and C.  For the
> first two years the diamond C had a brass sound tube but the top was 
> always pot
> metal.  307 is the earliest one I have ever worked on.  By 50000 the
> large tops have a stable pot metal that some have thought was brass.
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From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 11:53:58 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:53:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1084424296.5441551249325638280.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Well of course how silly of you, this fellow is obviously the foremost authority on what Jesus looks like, after all, there are actual photos and eyewitness totally accurate depictions to go by, and if its his opinion this is Jesus, that should be good enough for all of us !! Case closed. Just when you think things could not get any crazier up pops another nut !! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Aph4990 at aol.com 
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 2:33:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay 

I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus and the 
response was that he or she didn't understand the question. Here's the 
response.... 

Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put the other 
picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to me. 

Art Heller 
_______________________________________________ 
Phono-L mailing list 
http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 

From glastris at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 11:57:01 2009
From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:57:01 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>

Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a 
hoot!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the
> response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the
> response....
>
> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other
> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
>
> Art Heller
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 


From jnormanvandrisse at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  3 12:14:47 2009
From: jnormanvandrisse at yahoo.com (james n. vandrisse)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:14:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] STREAMING ALL 78rpm RADIO SHOW
Message-ID: <484451.62206.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

(J.M.J.)
?
Because of a screw-up at radio station WTKM, and through no fault of DJ Greg Drust, the all 78rpm radio show did not air this past Saturday, but is now scheduled to stream on Saturday, August 8, 2009, at 11:30am C.D.T. at www.wtkm.com
This Romy Gosz series also continues again, with a different selection and interviews,?on this all 78rpm?radio series?on Saturday, August 29, 2009, at 11:30am C.D.T. at www.wtkm.com and just maybe we can get DJ Greg Drust to play and air?the 78s on vintage phonographs.
Phone?Greg Drust?at 414-543-9948, as he is blind, and so he does not use a computer, but with enough interest expressed he may be able to actually?spin the records on a mechanical machine when he prepares his pre-taped show.
Jim VanDrisse


      

From sdcorbett at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  3 12:25:21 2009
From: sdcorbett at earthlink.net (Scott and Denise Corbett)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <410FBD59EEC943B6B2DC3E1AC698F146@your4dacd0ea75>
References: <4a7608ed.16538c0a.13db.7762@mx.google.com>
	<410FBD59EEC943B6B2DC3E1AC698F146@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <00c501ca1470$24d286f0$6e7794d0$@net>

I believe Jesus can be in your heart, NOT your phonograph.  According to my
Diamond Disc, it is Santa Claus that hides in the phonograph. Somehow I
don't think he would ask $ 70,000 is he thought the bearded face was Santa. 

-Scott Corbett

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of michael and suellen funk
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:46 AM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

I think I have the matching Mary and Joseph ones if you want to complete the
set.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Jay Horenstein
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:45 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

Before I make an offer on the $70,000.00 "Silvertone Victrola with shroud of
Jesus",  I just wanted to make sure I didn't snatch it away from somebody
out there in need of healing.    Jay 

_______________________________________________
Phono-L mailing list
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From edisone1 at verizon.net  Mon Aug  3 11:54:14 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:54:14 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research
References: <COL118-W9904639229E89F7CFD29FF60F0@phx.gbl>
	<73E2B40038634D5F8A942DCEA6842DC1@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <9C5210AE74C74B85B65A972980305A3D@moms>

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/collection3/amberola60.htm

http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agnard/collection3/amberola80.htm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob" <rvuill at comcast.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducer research


> I've never heard of an Amberola 60 or 80, only 30, 50, and 75.  What are4 
> they?  Thanks


From sdcorbett at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  3 13:34:20 2009
From: sdcorbett at earthlink.net (Scott and Denise Corbett)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:34:20 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
	<9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>
Message-ID: <00c601ca1479$c7d73a90$5785afb0$@net>

It is eaby items # 280378021123  

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of George Glastris
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a 
hoot!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the
> response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the
> response....
>
> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other
> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
>
> Art Heller
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 

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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  3 13:59:28 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:59:28 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <00c501ca1470$24d286f0$6e7794d0$@net>
References: <4a7608ed.16538c0a.13db.7762@mx.google.com><410FBD59EEC943B6B2DC3E1AC698F146@your4dacd0ea75><00c501ca1470$24d286f0$6e7794d0$@net>
Message-ID: <241936260-1249333144-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1752924399-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I once saw the Virgin Mary on a tortilla. OK, I couldn't resist that one...
John Robles
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:25:21 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


I believe Jesus can be in your heart, NOT your phonograph.  According to my
Diamond Disc, it is Santa Claus that hides in the phonograph. Somehow I
don't think he would ask $ 70,000 is he thought the bearded face was Santa. 

-Scott Corbett

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of michael and suellen funk
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:46 AM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

I think I have the matching Mary and Joseph ones if you want to complete the
set.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Jay Horenstein
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:45 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay

Before I make an offer on the $70,000.00 "Silvertone Victrola with shroud of
Jesus",  I just wanted to make sure I didn't snatch it away from somebody
out there in need of healing.    Jay 

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From glastris at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 14:28:12 2009
From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:28:12 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <00c601ca1479$c7d73a90$5785afb0$@net>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com><9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>
	<00c601ca1479$c7d73a90$5785afb0$@net>
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Oh Please!  Jesus wouldn't buy a Silvertone!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


> It is eaby items # 280378021123
>
> -Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of George Glastris
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a
> hoot!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
>
>>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the
>> response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the
>> response....
>>
>> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other
>> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
>>
>> Art Heller
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From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 15:07:52 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:07:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <9D8CCDE95DA840D78422653AB7438A7E@GLASTRISPC>
Message-ID: <1683128698.5506761249337272635.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

So I would take that to mean that you are not at all convinced this is not a sure sign that the 2nd Coming is near?? 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Glastris" <glastris at comcast.net> 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 5:28:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay 

Oh Please! Jesus wouldn't buy a Silvertone! 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net> 
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay 


> It is eaby items # 280378021123 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On 
> Behalf Of George Glastris 
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM 
> To: Antique Phonograph List 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay 
> 
> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a 
> hoot!! 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com> 
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay 
> 
> 
>>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus and the 
>> response was that he or she didn't understand the question. Here's the 
>> response.... 
>> 
>> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put the other 
>> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to me. 
>> 
>> Art Heller 
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug  3 15:13:19 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:13:19 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola 60 and 80
In-Reply-To: <73E2B40038634D5F8A942DCEA6842DC1@your4dacd0ea75>
References: <COL118-W9904639229E89F7CFD29FF60F0@phx.gbl>
	<73E2B40038634D5F8A942DCEA6842DC1@your4dacd0ea75>
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Thomas A Edison was thrifty.  In order to get rid of C-150 cabinets and amberola mechanism he paired them up to make the 80.  The 60 was a London 1 cabinet with a 50 mechanism.  They used the Diamond D reproducer which was an Edisonic type diamond C.

Have you heard of the Wooledge 30?  It was a NZ dealers  attempt to make a portable 30.

The 60 and 80 was for export only, Edison sent obsolete things overseas where hopefully they would sell better than at home.  The 60 and 80 have been found in England, Oz, and NZ.  

I will send you some photos off list.

Steve

> From: rvuill at comcast.net
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:42:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] reproducer research
> 
> I've never heard of an Amberola 60 or 80, only 30, 50, and 75.  What are4 
> they?  Thanks
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven Medved" <steve_noreen at msn.com>
> To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:54 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer research
> 
> 
> >
> > What I am looking for are the serial numbers from Edison model O 
> > reproducers, especially those around 5000
> > and below and any above 60000.  I am trying to get an estimate on how many
> > of the all brass top O's were made.  I am also interested getting the 
> > serial
> > number from a heavy weight diamond B.  The extra weight attachment was
> > made universal so it fit either the diamond D or the heavy weight B.
> >
> >
> >
> > Below is a short history of the large tops.  If anyone would like any
> > photos please let me know.  I have included photos of the heavy weight
> > attachment.  This particular one came from an Amberola 80's diamond D
> > reproducer.  I only have the photo, but I would be interested in
> > knowing if anyone knows of any Amberola 60's or 80's.  I know of three
> > 80's, one that was on eBay, one in New Zealand, and one in the US.  If
> > requested information will be kept confidential.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > Around 3500 was an all brass top, 5080 is iron and brass, 12557 is iron 
> > and
> > brass, 13156 is pot metal, around 25000 the N joins in, around 27000 the 
> > tops
> > says TAE, 41,000 the early dome and trowel weight joins in, around 47000 
> > the
> > late dome joins in, by 50,000 the late dome is predominant, around 65000 
> > the
> > last O is made, 73,000 is the highest N I have seen.  Then the A series
> > starts and A350 is the highest one I know of.
> >
> >
> >
> > First N was round weight flat top, around 46000 the trowel O makes short
> > appearance, by 50000 the bent weight N appeared, there are five varieties, 
> > in
> > March 1913 the N-56 appears.  It has both N and R & S serial numbers.
> >
> >
> >
> > The large top was strictly O until around 27000.  When the R and S
> > appeared the large tops were eventually made universal so the large top 
> > could
> > be made into an O, bent weight N, R or later and S reproducers.  To
> > accomplish this three holes were tapped and drilled on the bottom of the 
> > body
> > 1-64 that way one hole could be used for the large top hinge block or the 
> > three
> > screws that held on the shoe adapter that allows the large top to become 
> > an R
> > or S.  A hole was drilled and tapped 0-110 for the limit pin of the
> > O.  If you look at an R or S you will see it is just a large top with a
> > shoe adapter, remove the shoe adapter and if the top is not swollen it 
> > will fit
> > in the large carriage.  The early R and S reproducers have a brass shoe
> > adapter, the late ones are pot metal.  The O is the only large top that
> > was not always pot metal, this includes the diamond B and C.  For the
> > first two years the diamond C had a brass sound tube but the top was 
> > always pot
> > metal.  307 is the earliest one I have ever worked on.  By 50000 the
> > large tops have a stable pot metal that some have thought was brass.
> > -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
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> > Size: 107026 bytes
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From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com  Mon Aug  3 15:14:32 2009
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:14:32 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <d54.5723006b.37a8bb48@wmconnect.com>

I am a Christian, but this one 'takes the cake'!  Ebay has become more of 
an amusement site that an auction site.  Any takers on the Michael Jackson 
hat listed for $200,000.00?  Item number:  110418848722    

Take care and God bless..even those Silvertones!

Brantley



    
    



Brantley

From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  3 15:22:52 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:22:52 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <1514489827-1249338145-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-533674663-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

That opens up a whole new thread -WWJB What Would Jesus Buy.m
------Original Message------
From: George Glastris
Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org
To: Antique Phonograph List
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Sent: Aug 3, 2009 2:28 PM

Oh Please!  Jesus wouldn't buy a Silvertone!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


> It is eaby items # 280378021123
>
> -Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of George Glastris
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a
> hoot!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
>
>>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the
>> response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the
>> response....
>>
>> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other
>> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
>>
>> Art Heller
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug  3 15:50:19 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:50:19 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W140AD2D76539189408F670F60F0@phx.gbl>


Art,

I am impressed, thanks for sharing this.

Steve


> I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the 
> response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the 
> response....
>  
> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other 
> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
>  
> Art Heller
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug  3 15:51:58 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:51:58 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
	<9CA0B3D22A1B485C9C57B0D6D1F6817B@GLASTRISPC>
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Phonograph-with-Shroud-of-Jesus_W0QQitemZ280378021123



> From: glastris at comcast.net
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:57:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
> 
> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a 
> hoot!!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
> 
> 
> >I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus  and the
> > response was that he or she didn't understand the question.  Here's  the
> > response....
> >
> > Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put  the other
> > picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to  me.
> >
> > Art Heller
> > _______________________________________________
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> > 
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From Phonophan at aol.com  Mon Aug  3 16:17:59 2009
From: Phonophan at aol.com (Phonophan at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:17:59 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola 60 and 80
Message-ID: <d21.57084679.37a8ca27@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2009 6:45:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
steve_noreen at msn.com writes:

to get rid of C-150 cabinets 

Just a note to say they were S-19 cabinets, with the door opening from the 
side and trays arranged to hold the cylinders. Best to all,

 
Tim Fabrizio
phonophan
PO Box 747 
Henrietta, NY 14467

TEL 585 582 1586
FAX 585 582 2624
Web site: www.phonophan.com

From edisone1 at verizon.net  Mon Aug  3 15:36:32 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:36:32 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
References: <1084424296.5441551249325638280.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B77C9C7ECE2E45DE9D065B08025C3E5B@T42>

I made a "best offer" of $75.  No reply, needles(s) to say.  hehe  


From Aph4990 at aol.com  Mon Aug  3 17:38:17 2009
From: Aph4990 at aol.com (Aph4990 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:38:17 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <c08.662fadaf.37a8dcf9@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 8/3/09 3:01:23 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
john9ten at pacbell.net writes:

I once  saw the Virgin Mary on a tortilla. OK, I couldn't resist that one...
John  Robles


Yes John...but in the case of your tortilla...that WAS the  Virgin Mary.  
I'll bet you didn't ask $70,000 for it.
Art Heller

From AGW1886 at aol.com  Mon Aug  3 19:08:38 2009
From: AGW1886 at aol.com (AGW1886 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:08:38 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <d4d.4c39c1a0.37a8f226@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/3/2009 5:38:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Aph4990 at aol.com writes:

> In a message dated 8/3/09 3:01:23 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
> john9ten at pacbell.net writes:
> 
> I once  saw the Virgin Mary on a tortilla. OK, I couldn't resist that 
> one...
> John  Robles
> 
> 
> Yes John...but in the case of your tortilla...that WAS the  Virgin Mary.  
> I'll bet you didn't ask $70,000 for it.
> Art Heller
> 

I'll bet John ate it! Expensive Meal!
Sincerely.
Rick A. Jorgensen

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From glastris at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 19:56:57 2009
From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:56:57 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
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References: <1683128698.5506761249337272635.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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The only "second" is the quality of the oak they used on that machine.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


> So I would take that to mean that you are not at all convinced this is not 
> a sure sign that the 2nd Coming is near??
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Glastris" <glastris at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 5:28:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
> Oh Please! Jesus wouldn't buy a Silvertone!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
>
>> It is eaby items # 280378021123
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of George Glastris
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM
>> To: Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>>
>> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a
>> hoot!!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
>> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>>
>>
>>>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus and the
>>> response was that he or she didn't understand the question. Here's the
>>> response....
>>>
>>> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put the other
>>> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to me.
>>>
>>> Art Heller
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From glastris at comcast.net  Mon Aug  3 19:57:24 2009
From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:57:24 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
In-Reply-To: <1683128698.5506761249337272635.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1683128698.5506761249337272635.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <11EED81E9A5A4E75A7D835E0E3085A0D@GLASTRISPC>

Or as I like to say..... "Jesus is Coming....Look Busy!"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay


> So I would take that to mean that you are not at all convinced this is not 
> a sure sign that the 2nd Coming is near??
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Glastris" <glastris at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 5:28:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
> Oh Please! Jesus wouldn't buy a Silvertone!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>
>
>> It is eaby items # 280378021123
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of George Glastris
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:57 AM
>> To: Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>>
>> Could someone please send me the link to this one.....it sounds like a
>> hoot!!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Aph4990 at aol.com>
>> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
>>
>>
>>>I just couldn't resist asking how the seller knew it was Jesus and the
>>> response was that he or she didn't understand the question. Here's the
>>> response....
>>>
>>> Im not sure I understand your question but that is why I put the other
>>> picture of Jesus on there so that you can see what is looks like to me.
>>>
>>> Art Heller
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From appywander at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  3 19:59:32 2009
From: appywander at hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:59:32 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] $70000 Silvertone
Message-ID: <SNT120-W3486DC57F7B182E6103EE7DC0C0@phx.gbl>


Check out the discussion about this on the Talking Machine Forum:

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2706

John M

From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug  3 20:05:20 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:05:20 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Message-ID: <1254242111-1249355092-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-445217244-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

It was good with butter...
------Original Message------
From: AGW1886 at aol.com
Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] $70,000.00 Silvertone on ebay
Sent: Aug 3, 2009 7:08 PM

In a message dated 8/3/2009 5:38:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Aph4990 at aol.com writes:

> In a message dated 8/3/09 3:01:23 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
> john9ten at pacbell.net writes:
> 
> I once  saw the Virgin Mary on a tortilla. OK, I couldn't resist that 
> one...
> John  Robles
> 
> 
> Yes John...but in the case of your tortilla...that WAS the  Virgin Mary.  
> I'll bet you didn't ask $70,000 for it.
> Art Heller
> 

I'll bet John ate it! Expensive Meal!
Sincerely.
Rick A. Jorgensen

GOLDEN ERA AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION
http://www.geaaonline.org
UNCLE JOSH'S PUN'KIN CENTRE STORIES
http://www.montanaphonograph.com/unclejosh.html



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From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com  Tue Aug  4 02:54:00 2009
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:54:00 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Thanks Tim For Your Contributions To This Group
Message-ID: <c15.43f27cd8.37a95f38@wmconnect.com>

Tim,

Thanks for bringing something to the group other than Silvertone.  I always 
appreciate the fact that you bring what this group was intended to be used 
for...Information on the great hobby of phonograph collecting.

Brantley

From waykos at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  4 07:21:40 2009
From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:21:40 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan
Message-ID: <60BD8D44B9D04074BDA3502489BFE665@WaynePC>

Can someone tell me how many different Peter Pans are there.I have seen some that have a plate that says "push here to open" and some don't.Also,The name plate.Some have many pat.#'s and some have one pat #.Which is early or late.Thanks in advance.

From AllenAmet at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 08:50:38 2009
From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:50:38 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] unusual Berliner disc
Message-ID: <ca5.46c9e352.37a9b2ce@aol.com>

Hi
 
 Does anyone know much about a 7" Berliner disc, #966, 'My  Polly's a 
Peach'? Someone has this, sung by "Mr. Thomas" (1896), and it (this  take and 
artist) is unlisted in the Charosh book. Who was Mr Thomas?
 
Allen
 

From barry at barrykasindorf.com  Tue Aug  4 08:37:02 2009
From: barry at barrykasindorf.com (Barry Kasindorf)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:37:02 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan
In-Reply-To: <60BD8D44B9D04074BDA3502489BFE665@WaynePC>
References: <60BD8D44B9D04074BDA3502489BFE665@WaynePC>
Message-ID: <4A78559E.4040105@barrykasindorf.com>

The one I want and can't afford is the one with the clock in it.
-Barry


wayne wrote:
> Can someone tell me how many different Peter Pans are there.I have seen some that have a plate that says "push here to open" and some don't.Also,The name plate.Some have many pat.#'s and some have one pat #.Which is early or late.Thanks in advance.
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From Phonophan at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 10:29:07 2009
From: Phonophan at aol.com (Phonophan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:29:07 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan
Message-ID: <c76.4c08c529.37a9c9e3@aol.com>

Dudes--- It's even MORE complicated than that --- there's one that employs 
a genuine external horn made collapsible like a "Boy Scout cup." There's the 
one with a clock in it. There are quite a few significant variations and I 
probably haven't seen them all.
 
Tim Fabrizio
phonophan
PO Box 747 
Henrietta, NY 14467

TEL 585 582 1586
FAX 585 582 2624
Web site: www.phonophan.com
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=JulystepsfooterNO115)

From waykos at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  4 11:48:18 2009
From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan
Message-ID: <A4B3002C1E2E47EAABF6738945412F17@WaynePC>

So the one with the coarse grain imitation leather that has the fold out leather horn and  no push plate is late or early form the one with the "push to open plate"??.I just saw one sell that has the plate on eBay for 200+ $ and it looked beat. It was also a light tan color and I have seen a darker almost black.

From phonophan at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 12:58:00 2009
From: phonophan at aol.com (phonophan at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:58:00 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan
In-Reply-To: <A4B3002C1E2E47EAABF6738945412F17@WaynePC>
References: <A4B3002C1E2E47EAABF6738945412F17@WaynePC>
Message-ID: <8CBE35500120B3C-D28-180D@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>


 And also green leather.


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: wayne <waykos at shaw.ca>
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Peter Pan










So the one with the coarse grain imitation leather that has the fold out leather 
horn and  no push plate is late or early form the one with the "push to open 
plate"??.I just saw one sell that has the plate on eBay for 200+ $ and it looked 
beat. It was also a light tan color and I have seen a darker almost black.
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From maffit2 at bresnan.net  Tue Aug  4 19:20:15 2009
From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:20:15 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
Message-ID: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>

Phono folks:

 

Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the comedy team
of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the contact /
link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.

 

Thanks

 

Bob


From jnichol at fuse.net  Tue Aug  4 20:15:29 2009
From: jnichol at fuse.net (Jim Nichol)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:15:29 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
In-Reply-To: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
References: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
Message-ID: <A01EEA7B-5EBB-4FED-AEEC-8B67EA1B49B4@fuse.net>

Try Google. You can download episodes from places like Youtube, and  
make your own CD.  Or the following website is selling an MP3 CD (not  
an audio CD), but you buy it and burn an audio CD with iTunes or  
similar program.

http://www.otrcat.com/black-crows-p-1109.html

Jim Nichol

On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Bob Maffit wrote:

> Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the  
> comedy team
> of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the  
> contact /
> link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob


From phonofolks at aol.com  Wed Aug  5 05:29:36 2009
From: phonofolks at aol.com (phonofolks at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:29:36 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Phonograph records and Victrola at auction 8/7/2009
In-Reply-To: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
References: <d01.5a8016ce.37a88791@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBE3DF8766EA82-750-27F7@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com>

FYI:

There is some phonograph records for sale coming up in Hampstead, Maryland this Friday. I see?a victor victrola XVI cabinet too. Auction zip # 6095.

http://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/661314.html


From lherault at bu.edu  Wed Aug  5 06:14:42 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:14:42 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
In-Reply-To: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
References: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
Message-ID: <001a01ca15ce$b219c500$4bd6299b@ad.bu.edu>

I believe our esteemed list owner, Loren has made up such a CD.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Maffit
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:20 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD

Phono folks:

 

Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the comedy team
of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the contact /
link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.

 

Thanks

 

Bob

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From maffit2 at bresnan.net  Wed Aug  5 13:01:54 2009
From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob Maffit)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:01:54 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
In-Reply-To: <A01EEA7B-5EBB-4FED-AEEC-8B67EA1B49B4@fuse.net>
References: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
	<A01EEA7B-5EBB-4FED-AEEC-8B67EA1B49B4@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <000301ca1607$965a4180$c30ec480$@net>

Jim:Bob: phono folks:

Thanks for the information. I ordered the MP3 CD and will give it a go.

Thanks

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Nichol
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:15 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD

Try Google. You can download episodes from places like Youtube, and  
make your own CD.  Or the following website is selling an MP3 CD (not  
an audio CD), but you buy it and burn an audio CD with iTunes or  
similar program.

http://www.otrcat.com/black-crows-p-1109.html

Jim Nichol

On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Bob Maffit wrote:

> Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the  
> comedy team
> of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the  
> contact /
> link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob

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From loran at oldcrank.com  Wed Aug  5 18:09:55 2009
From: loran at oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:09:55 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
In-Reply-To: <001a01ca15ce$b219c500$4bd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
References: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
	<001a01ca15ce$b219c500$4bd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
Message-ID: <BF5CA64D-6C5C-48BC-9D89-A2638DE168A9@oldcrank.com>

Correct... several years ago. I don't have any lying around, but still  
have all the audio files. Let me know if there would be any interest  
in a short run.

Loran

On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:14 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:

> I believe our esteemed list owner, Loren has made up such a CD.
>
> Ron L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org 
> ] On
> Behalf Of Bob Maffit
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:20 PM
> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
> Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
>
> Phono folks:
>
>
>
> Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the  
> comedy team
> of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the  
> contact /
> link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bob
>
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>
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From Srsells1 at aol.com  Wed Aug  5 19:46:23 2009
From: Srsells1 at aol.com (Srsells1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:46:23 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Mistake on Shackleton price - A NEW Shackleton Song
Message-ID: <ce2.4d717540.37ab9dff@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/26/2009 9:09:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
john9ten at pacbell.net writes:

Hi  All
I made a mistake when I said I had sold the Shackleton cylinder for  $700. 
It was actually $1400. John Robles


John and others. I'm just catching up on this tring. Interestingly enough  
Shackelton came into my life again this week with the MP3 release of a new  
musical by one of my favorite bands Groovelilly.
 
Only one song is available so far and I'm anxious to know more about the  
show but it sure is Shackelton related and the MP3 is MUCH cheaper than the  
Edison cylinder! ;-)
 
Here is link:
 
_GrooveLily  ? Ernest Shackleton Loves Me_ 
(http://www.groovelily.com/musicals/ernest-shackleton-loves-me/)  
 
Steve Ramm

From Srsells1 at aol.com  Wed Aug  5 19:53:04 2009
From: Srsells1 at aol.com (Srsells1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:53:04 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
Message-ID: <c55.51efadec.37ab9f90@aol.com>

Larry Tedder - who is selling the original Merritt Malvern tapes on CD has  
a nice program with narration for $7.50 + P&H
 
ISSUE ASA-5007:
Moran & Mack - Two Black  Crows: A Merry one hour program featuring the 
unsurpassed  black-face comedy team of vaudeville, radio, and record fame. The 
Comedy of the  1920's at its best! All seventeen of their issued sides are 
presented here along  with biographical information and recording session 
dates. Transferred from the  Original Master Tape from Merritt Sound Recordings 
onto one high quality  CD. You'll delight to these gems!
Selections: Our Child/Two Black Crows in the Jailhouse  1&2/Two Black Crows 
in Hades 1&2/Two Black Crows in the AEF/Esau  Buck/Foolishments/Elder 
Eatmore's Sermon on Throwing Stones/Two Black Crows  Parts 1 through 8 - 
[Pre-Recorded Program 1 Hour]
PRICE: $7.50 (plus  Shipping + Handling) 
 
_http://www.americansoundarchive.com/recordings.htm_ 
(http://www.americansoundarchive.com/recordings.htm) 
 
Steve

From pjfraser at alamedanet.net  Wed Aug  5 22:22:10 2009
From: pjfraser at alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:10 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
In-Reply-To: <BF5CA64D-6C5C-48BC-9D89-A2638DE168A9@oldcrank.com>
References: <001d01ca1573$46280290$d27807b0$@net>
	<001a01ca15ce$b219c500$4bd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
	<BF5CA64D-6C5C-48BC-9D89-A2638DE168A9@oldcrank.com>
Message-ID: <A24D1DB4-9D34-4E0A-B515-8F2680146B8E@alamedanet.net>

Any way you'd be interested in just making them available via download?

(Pretty please?)

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
pjfraser at mac.com

On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Loran Hughes <loran at oldcrank.com> wrote:

> Correct... several years ago. I don't have any lying around, but  
> still have all the audio files. Let me know if there would be any  
> interest in a short run.
>
> Loran
>
> On Aug 5, 2009, at 6:14 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
>
>> I believe our esteemed list owner, Loren has made up such a CD.
>>
>> Ron L
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l- 
>> bounces at oldcrank.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bob Maffit
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:20 PM
>> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
>> Subject: [Phono-L] where to get "two Black Crows" on CD
>>
>> Phono folks:
>>
>>
>>
>> Some time ago, I found someone on the net, selling a CD with the  
>> comedy team
>> of Two Black Crows. I would appreciate it if anyone knows the  
>> contact /
>> link, so I can get it for my 80year-old friend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
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From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Thu Aug  6 07:04:32 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:04:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
Message-ID: <994185280.6248631249567472559.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that Model number for me. What gives here? 


Bruce 

From appywander at hotmail.com  Thu Aug  6 07:25:39 2009
From: appywander at hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:25:39 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
In-Reply-To: <994185280.6248631249567472559.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <994185280.6248631249567472559.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W31FC9C2424BA57A09F1B29DC0A0@phx.gbl>


There is no such thing. If the seller can't provide a photo, have them snail mail you a pencil rubbing on paper of the data plate. They could be dyslexic.

> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:04:32 +0000
> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net
> To: Phonolist at yahoogroups.com
> CC: Phono-L at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
> 
> Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that Model number for me. What gives here? 
> 
> 
> Bruce 
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Thu Aug  6 09:18:28 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:18:28 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
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Chinese reproduction ID plate?
 
> Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that Model number for me. What gives here? 
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Thu Aug  6 09:23:15 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:15 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
Message-ID: <30007326-1249575794-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-579012966-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Very possible, they're turning up.
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
Sent: Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM


Chinese reproduction ID plate?
 
> Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that Model number for me. What gives here? 
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From jay.horenstein at gmail.com  Thu Aug  6 17:18:42 2009
From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com (Jay Horenstein)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:18:42 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
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I went to the Victor Victrola page and found no such animal. If it is indeed
real, it's something special.

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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X

Very possible, they're turning up.
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
Sent: Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM


Chinese reproduction ID plate?
 
> Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank
victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is
insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find
nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of
this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table
model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that
Model number for me. What gives here? 
> 
> 
> Bruce 
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From ClockworkHome at aol.com  Thu Aug  6 22:58:54 2009
From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:58:54 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
Message-ID: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>

For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post office as 
there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great 
lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
 
When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter 
with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I owed 
another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there 
were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they 
were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called over 
his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I asked for 
the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.  
I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an elderly 
postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and 
said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone (sic)!" 
 SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
the box would be once again just media mail.
 
And people wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is 
flagging?
 
Regards to all,
 
Al
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From wavesllc at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 08:08:34 2009
From: wavesllc at gmail.com (Charlotte Mager)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:08:34 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ff7c4eba0908070808q16481879scfc36d54d366f738@mail.gmail.com>

Had a similar experience in my local NJ post office. The local post mistress
told me that the cylinders that I was sending were not qualified for media
mail. I showed her the box and pointed out the words that said record and
the fact that they were made in Jersey.. We looked at the post office regs
which state recordings or written material. I have absolutely no problem now
using media mail for Edison Cylinders.

Charlotte aka Waves
http://wavesllc.com

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:58 AM, <ClockworkHome at aol.com> wrote:

> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new
> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post
> office as
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great
> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
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> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter
> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I
> owed
> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they
> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called over
> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a
> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I
> asked for
> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.
> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was
> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an
> elderly
> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and
> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone
> (sic)!"
>  SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so
> the box would be once again just media mail.
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From pgvancouver at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  7 08:05:51 2009
From: pgvancouver at yahoo.com (Patrick Gunn)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <981487.42602.qm@web52511.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This also has happened to me, usually after the local rural PO hires new employees, or their monthly make-work projects. Pulling out the cylinders, with their boxes stating "Edison RECORD" seems to help, and they then reverse the extra charges. Once I had to have them pull their own manual and read what Media Mail entails: 

Media Mail - Content 373.2.0
"Generally used for books (at least eight pages), film (16 mm or narrower), printed music, printed test materials, video and SOUND RECORDINGS, playscripts, printed educational charts, loose-leaf pages and binders consisting of medical information, and computer-readable media. Sound recordings may include incidental announcements of recordings and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such recordings. Books may contain no advertising other than incidental announcements of other books."

I also kept the receipt showing the reversal for any future problems too. 

Trying to convince a few sellers/shippers to send via Media Mail instead of Parcel Post is a whole other ballgame though...

Cheers,
Patrick




----- Original Message ----
From: "ClockworkHome at aol.com" <ClockworkHome at aol.com>
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:58:54 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...

For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post office as 
there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great 
lengths to calculate and charge correctly.

When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter 
with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I owed 
another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there 
were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they 
were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called over 
his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I asked for 
the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.  
I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an elderly 
postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and 
said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone (sic)!" 
SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
the box would be once again just media mail.

And people wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is 
flagging?

Regards to all,

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From rich-mail at octoxol.com  Fri Aug  7 08:26:32 2009
From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:26:32 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>

Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have received 
torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can understand the USPS 
problem with this.

That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know 
nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison

I just love dealing with government workers at any level.



ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post office as 
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great 
> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
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> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter 
> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I owed 
> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there 
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they 
> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called over 
> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I asked for 
> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.  
> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an elderly 
> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and 
> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone (sic)!" 
>  SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
> the box would be once again just media mail.
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Fri Aug  7 09:09:03 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:09:03 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com><4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
Message-ID: <598248029-1249661336-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-847880145-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Hey! I'm a government worker!!
Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to me.
John Robles
Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com>

Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:26:32 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail...


Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have received 
torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can understand the USPS 
problem with this.

That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know 
nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison

I just love dealing with government workers at any level.



ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post office as 
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great 
> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
>  
> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter 
> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I owed 
> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there 
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they 
> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called over 
> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I asked for 
> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.  
> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an elderly 
> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and 
> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone (sic)!" 
>  SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
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From AllenAmet at aol.com  Fri Aug  7 09:21:03 2009
From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:21:03 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] early oak cover
Message-ID: <bb8.58e157d9.37adae6f@aol.com>

Hi,
 
  Is anyone interested in the original wood carry-cover and  handle for the 
rare aluminum-motor "Edison" phonograph made in Chicago  ca. 1896 (CTMCo)? 
I know where there is one... has the original hardware as  well. I don't 
think many were made, as they were sued pretty quickly.
 
allen
 

From rcowen at sciencenews.org  Fri Aug  7 09:33:28 2009
From: rcowen at sciencenews.org (rcowen at sciencenews.org)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:33:28 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] early oak cover
Message-ID: <1731319702-1249662686-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1415582731-@bxe1111.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

How much would this be? Does cover have any decals or design? And when you say hardware, just for cover?
Thanks,
Ron Cowen
Silver spring, md
------Original Message------
From: AllenAmet at aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Aug 7, 2009 12:21 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] early oak cover

Hi,
 
  Is anyone interested in the original wood carry-cover and  handle for the 
rare aluminum-motor "Edison" phonograph made in Chicago  ca. 1896 (CTMCo)? 
I know where there is one... has the original hardware as  well. I don't 
think many were made, as they were sued pretty quickly.
 
allen
 
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From AllenAmet at aol.com  Fri Aug  7 09:45:38 2009
From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:45:38 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] early oak cover
Message-ID: <c5e.5d9393fe.37adb432@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 8/7/2009 12:41:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rcowen at sciencenews.org writes:

How much  would this be? Does cover have any decals or design? And when you 
say  hardware, just for cover?
Thanks,
Ron Cowen


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Hi,
 
  If you like, I can scan the ad by the CTMCo for their Aluminum motor  
model - it sold for $40. Do you have that machine? Drop me a note offlist...  
yes, the hardware (handle and side inserts) is still on the oak cover. They  
claimed it could play 20 cylinders on one winding, but that may have been  
optimistic, even for brown wax.

Allen
 

From rcowen at sciencenews.org  Fri Aug  7 09:52:08 2009
From: rcowen at sciencenews.org (rcowen at sciencenews.org)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:52:08 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] early oak cover
Message-ID: <1421762769-1249663806-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1922890207-@bxe1111.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Scan would be great. Don't have the machine.
------Original Message------
From: AllenAmet at aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Aug 7, 2009 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] early oak cover

 
In a message dated 8/7/2009 12:41:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rcowen at sciencenews.org writes:

How much  would this be? Does cover have any decals or design? And when you 
say  hardware, just for cover?
Thanks,
Ron Cowen


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Hi,
 
  If you like, I can scan the ad by the CTMCo for their Aluminum motor  
model - it sold for $40. Do you have that machine? Drop me a note offlist...  
yes, the hardware (handle and side inserts) is still on the oak cover. They  
claimed it could play 20 cylinders on one winding, but that may have been  
optimistic, even for brown wax.

Allen
 
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From edisone1 at verizon.net  Fri Aug  7 10:15:31 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:15:31 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1EF9F3FE489A457C996D71DC5E0B586F@moms>

 If it happens to me, I'll be sure to haul along a Q or a Fireside, to 
demonstrate !


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ClockworkHome at aol.com>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:58 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...


> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new
> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post 
> office as
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great
> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
>
> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter
> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I 
> owed
> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and 
> there
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they
> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called 
> over
> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a
> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record. 


From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Fri Aug  7 10:26:52 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:26:52 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
In-Reply-To: <4a7b72ed.02578c0a.1e4d.0786@mx.google.com>
References: <30007326-1249575794-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-579012966-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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 hi all
i do have a table model with the x after it and it is real
around 1917 they did this in a model change
it is in the victor data book for that but not sure on your model


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Horenstein <jay.horenstein at gmail.com>
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 8:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X










I went to the Victor Victrola page and found no such animal. If it is indeed
real, it's something special.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of john9ten at pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:23 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X

Very possible, they're turning up.
------Original Message------
From: Steven Medved
Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org
To: Phono-l
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor VV-3X
Sent: Aug 6, 2009 9:18 AM


Chinese reproduction ID plate?
 
> Ok, this one has got me stumped, I have contacted a seller of a crank
victor phonograph with a top lid (I do not have any pictures of it) who is
insisting that it is a VV-3X according to the ID plate. Naturally I can find
nothing about this in LFTD or the Victor Data book. Has anyone ever heard of
this one? It is a real mystery to me. He says it looks like a typical Table
model with a top lid, and has looked at the ID plate 3 times to confirm that
Model number for me. What gives here? 
> 
> 
> Bruce 
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From lherault at bu.edu  Fri Aug  7 11:12:47 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:12:47 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
Message-ID: <005f01ca178a$aaf04840$4fd6299b@ad.bu.edu>

The people at my post office are super.  They are friendly and helpful.
They know what recordings are too.  Maybe it is because I live in a small
town?

Ron L in North Attleborough, MA,   home of the jewelry industry in the USA

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail...

Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have received 
torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can understand the USPS 
problem with this.

That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know 
nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison

I just love dealing with government workers at any level.



ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post
office as 
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great

> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
>  
> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter

> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I
owed 
> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and
there 
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they

> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called
over 
> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I
asked for 
> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.

> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an
elderly 
> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over,
and 
> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone
(sic)!" 
>  SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
> the box would be once again just media mail.
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From rich-mail at octoxol.com  Fri Aug  7 12:36:52 2009
From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
In-Reply-To: <005f01ca178a$aaf04840$4fd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
	<005f01ca178a$aaf04840$4fd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
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Small towns do help.

Ron L'Herault wrote:
> The people at my post office are super.  They are friendly and helpful.
> They know what recordings are too.  Maybe it is because I live in a small
> town?
> 
> Ron L in North Attleborough, MA,   home of the jewelry industry in the USA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Rich
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
> 
> Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have received 
> torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can understand the USPS 
> problem with this.
> 
> That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
> system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
> years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know 
> nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison
> 
> I just love dealing with government workers at any level.
> 
> 
> 
> ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
>> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
>> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
>> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post
> office as 
>> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great
> 
>> lengths to calculate and charge correctly.
>>  
>> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter
> 
>> with my postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I
> owed 
>> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and
> there 
>> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him they
> 
>> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called
> over 
>> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
>> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.  I
> asked for 
>> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and brought back the postmaster.
> 
>> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
>> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an
> elderly 
>> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over,
> and 
>> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone
> (sic)!" 
>>  SAVED...   and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so 
>> the box would be once again just media mail.
>>  
>> And people wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is 
>> flagging?
>>  
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Fri Aug  7 14:50:40 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:50:40 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Post office
In-Reply-To: <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W272CCF4ECA481DC3C0DA65F60B0@phx.gbl>


The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong.  I purchased a reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money order Certified so I could trace it.  It got lost and I went back and ask them to trace it a month later.  I was informed the could only trace inside the US.  It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care of cases like mine.  

I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no refund was offered for their mistake.

I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed properly and no claim could be honored.

UPS is worse.  

Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong.  So far all the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely.  

> That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
> system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
> years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know 
> nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison
> 
> I just love dealing with government workers at any level.


From steve_noreen at msn.com  Fri Aug  7 15:01:03 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:01:03 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items
In-Reply-To: <598248029-1249661336-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-847880145-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com><4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
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Message-ID: <COL118-W167BA324BCE72AC0D53662F60B0@phx.gbl>


UPS loves to damage, my wife heard them drop the Triumph they shipped at the door, sure enough the bedplate was cracked in half as was the carriage.  Fortunately I paid the guy extra to mail the reproducer via USPS.

Their automated jaws of death sorting system crushed my Triumph horn, they taped up the package and acted like nothing happened, it took me seven months to get insurance reimbursement.

When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they damaged the box and container they transferred it in another bottle and re-taped it and send in on its way.

If you win an auction and they want to use UPS ground, pay the extra few dollars and go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is light and small.  UPS likes to penalize heavy and or large things by breaking them.


> Hey! I'm a government worker!!
> Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to me.
> John Robles
> Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From smstitt at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 15:43:28 2009
From: smstitt at gmail.com (Mike Stitt)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:43:28 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W167BA324BCE72AC0D53662F60B0@phx.gbl>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
	<598248029-1249661336-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-847880145-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<COL118-W167BA324BCE72AC0D53662F60B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0908071543r19535dc9s754a99bd65ef220e@mail.gmail.com>

The Snap on dealer has his tools ship to our shop. If it is a new UPS driver
after he sits them down I go over and kick the box over. I ask him, didn't
you go to UPS school? Kick that stuff around. They rush these guys, they are
not careful. Steven was the motor still bolted to the bedpalate? Oh the
driver, they get the point. Can't hurt wrenches.
Mike OC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

>
> UPS loves to damage, my wife heard them drop the Triumph they shipped at
> the door, sure enough the bedplate was cracked in half as was the carriage.
>  Fortunately I paid the guy extra to mail the reproducer via USPS.
>
> Their automated jaws of death sorting system crushed my Triumph horn, they
> taped up the package and acted like nothing happened, it took me seven
> months to get insurance reimbursement.
>
> When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they damaged the box and
> container they transferred it in another bottle and re-taped it and send in
> on its way.
>
> If you win an auction and they want to use UPS ground, pay the extra few
> dollars and go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is light and small.  UPS
> likes to penalize heavy and or large things by breaking them.
>
>
> > Hey! I'm a government worker!!
> > Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by
> charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its
> cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you
> ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to
> me.
> > John Robles
> > Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-)
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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From smstitt at gmail.com  Fri Aug  7 15:38:13 2009
From: smstitt at gmail.com (Mike Stitt)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:13 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Post office
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W272CCF4ECA481DC3C0DA65F60B0@phx.gbl>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
	<COL118-W272CCF4ECA481DC3C0DA65F60B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0908071538k549da61p61249f785a165859@mail.gmail.com>

I've always wonder why UPS or any shipper doesn't have a specialty handling
charge. How many buy a rare item that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be
glad to pay extra? I would. Say it is a small package worth $1500. Shipping
and worthless insurance $20.00
I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe more!
Hell it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE means and treat
it so...
On the scale that UPS ships could you imagine the extra money............for
doing what they ought to do.
Mike
Oldcranky


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

>
> The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong.  I purchased a
> reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money
> order Certified so I could trace it.  It got lost and I went back and ask
> them to trace it a month later.  I was informed the could only trace inside
> the US.  It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money
> order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care
> of cases like mine.
>
> I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail
> when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no refund was offered for their
> mistake.
>
> I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting
> over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed
> properly and no claim could be honored.
>
> UPS is worse.
>
> Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong.  So far all
> the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely.
>
> > That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education
> > system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50
> > years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know
> > nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas
> Edison
> >
> > I just love dealing with government workers at any level.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
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From steve_noreen at msn.com  Fri Aug  7 16:32:14 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:32:14 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items
In-Reply-To: <7e8e90ff0908071543r19535dc9s754a99bd65ef220e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com> <4A7C47A8.3090001@octoxol.com>
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The motor was still bolted to the bed plate and it was in a home made box that had replaced the original Edison case.  If the had not dropped it the bed plate would not have damaged.  UPS drivers are timed and for the books and light things I get from Amazon.com UPS ground is excellent.  

My main point is to avoid them for anything that can be easily damaged or has value.  If my post saves one phono it will be worth it.


> The Snap on dealer has his tools ship to our shop. If it is a new UPS driver
> after he sits them down I go over and kick the box over. I ask him, didn't
> you go to UPS school? Kick that stuff around. They rush these guys, they are
> not careful. Steven was the motor still bolted to the bedpalate? Oh the
> driver, they get the point. Can't hurt wrenches.
> Mike OC
> 


From jnormanvandrisse at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  7 16:44:34 2009
From: jnormanvandrisse at yahoo.com (james n. vandrisse)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] all 78rpm streaming radio program on Saturday.
Message-ID: <685112.87020.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





(J.M.J.)
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The all 78rpm radio show streaming at www.wtkm.com is now scheduled for Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 11:30am-Noon C.D.T., as it did not air last Saturday. It is entitled The Life and Times of Romy Gosz.      

Jim VanDrisse




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From rich-mail at octoxol.com  Fri Aug  7 16:53:36 2009
From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:53:36 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Post office
In-Reply-To: <7e8e90ff0908071538k549da61p61249f785a165859@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ced.5f8031df.37ad1c9e@aol.com>
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	<7e8e90ff0908071538k549da61p61249f785a165859@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A7CBE80.8050003@octoxol.com>

Actually, the USPS does have exactly that program for unique and/or high 
value items.  Its called Registered Mail.  They even offer actual 
insurance also.  Every Registered item is hand carried into and out of 
the registered mail truck.  registered mail is totally segregated from 
any other mail.  As this is a USPS service that is why UPS, FedEx etc do 
not offer a competing service.

UPS, FedEx, and USPS are not actually offering insurance.  Only USPS 
Registered Mail offers true insurance.  If you are interested go read 
their tariff regulations or the Domestic mail manual.  They tell you 
that it is not insurance.

Mike Stitt wrote:
> I've always wonder why UPS or any shipper doesn't have a specialty handling
> charge. How many buy a rare item that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be
> glad to pay extra? I would. Say it is a small package worth $1500. Shipping
> and worthless insurance $20.00
> I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe more!
> Hell it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE means and treat
> it so...
> On the scale that UPS ships could you imagine the extra money............for
> doing what they ought to do.
> Mike
> Oldcranky
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong.  I purchased a
>> reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money
>> order Certified so I could trace it.  It got lost and I went back and ask
>> them to trace it a month later.  I was informed the could only trace inside
>> the US.  It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money
>> order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care
>> of cases like mine.
>>
>> I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail
>> when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no refund was offered for their
>> mistake.
>>
>> I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting
>> over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed
>> properly and no claim could be honored.
>>
>> UPS is worse.
>>
>> Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong.  So far all
>> the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely.
>>
>>> That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education
>>> system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50
>>> years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know
>>> nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas
>> Edison
>>> I just love dealing with government workers at any level.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
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From mtucker at exemail.com.au  Fri Aug  7 21:13:42 2009
From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000
Subject: [Phono-L] Rosenfield Class M
Message-ID: <000501ca17de$9de46510$d9ad2f30$@com.au>

Hi Lauren,

 

Would appreciate the following being listed.

 

Mike Tucker (mtucker at exetel.com.au)

 

 

ROSENFIELD CLASS M COIN OPS

 

I have purchased two Rosenfield Class M coin op cabinets and am in the
process of restoring same.

 

I have all the necessary parts and information except for the repeater and
the signboard.

 

I am keen to obtain by purchase, loan, swap, or a combination thereof, a
topworks with the Class M Rosenfield repeater. I am also prepared to
purchase a complete machine or a wreck, as long as the repeater is present.
Transport to Australia can be organised with minimal problem to the sender.
If a loan is considered, appropriate guarantees can be provided through
senior USA collectors

 

I can supply reproduction Class M parts, including cabinet, motor, governor
block or deck in any deal.

 

No Rosenfield Class M's out here, so I would really appreciate assistance to
get these rare machines in working order.

 

As I am sure Rosenfield advertised his coin ops, so does anyone have a copy
of one of his ads for the Class M coin op? It is different to that used on
the later AZ Columbia based machines. If anyone actually has a backboard, a
good photo would be a great help.

 

Please contact me on email mtucker at exemail.com.au

 

Many thanks,

 

Mike Tucker


From mtucker at exemail.com.au  Fri Aug  7 21:13:42 2009
From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000
Subject: [Phono-L] Model C Homes and Triumphs
Message-ID: <000001ca17de$9db4c990$d91e5cb0$@com.au>

Hi again Lauren,

 

Would appreciate this one also being posted.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

Mike Tucker

 

 

Edison Model C Homes and Triumphs

 

Some time ago I purchased a Model C Edison Home, which is set up for 2/4
minutes with correct Model C parts.

 

A friend is restoring another of these machines and made the point that as
these machines were originally supposed to be for 2 minutes only, the
bearing hole in the mandrel pillar is too small for a normal 2 minute
mandrel to fit and have a suitable bearing. 

 

I tend to agree that Edison would not have used an almost paper thin
bearing, so the question is what type of mandrel shaft/leadscrew and bearing
arrangement was used on the Home and Triumph Model C's?

 

If anyone has one of these with an original 2 minute arrangement, I would
love to know the details.

 

Photos would be fantastic and could be sent to me at mtucker at exemail.com.au.

 

Mike Tucker 


From mtucker at exemail.com.au  Fri Aug  7 21:17:39 2009
From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:17:39 +1000
Subject: [Phono-L] Apology
Message-ID: <000001ca17df$2af5ad10$80e10730$@com.au>

Loran,

 

Sincere apologies for misspelling your name on my two emails. Have rapped my
knuckles and promise to do better next time.

 

Best wishes,

 

Mike Tucker


From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Sat Aug  8 10:39:25 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:39:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's
Message-ID: <783386053.6787231249753165133.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


I just picked up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" Columbia Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers and titles: "Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I bring her Chicken " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a ragtime number sounding alot like a take off on "Won't you come home Bill Bailey) could be Bob Roberts, but I am not totally certain, while the "Chicken" song sounds a good deal like Dan W. Quinn, but again I would like to be sure as to who the artist is. Thanks in advance for your help. According to Steve's dating book 378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be 1903. 

Bruce 

From edisone1 at verizon.net  Sat Aug  8 11:09:32 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:09:32 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's
Message-ID: <49E0EDD5CCA94CD49180A0A67177CBB4@moms>

 Columbia Master Book says Arthur Collins., for both
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
> To: "78-L" <78-L at 78online.com>
> Cc: "Phono-L" <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>; "Phonolist" 
> <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:39 PM
> Subject: [phonolist] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's
>
>
>>
>> I just picked up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" 
>> Columbia Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers 
>> and titles: "Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I 
>> bring her Chicken " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a 
>> ragtime number sounding alot like a take off on "Won't you come home Bill 
>> Bailey) could be Bob Roberts, but I am not totally certain, while the 
>> "Chicken" song sounds a good deal like Dan W. Quinn, but again I would 
>> like to be sure as to who the artist is. Thanks in advance for your help. 
>> According to Steve's dating book 378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be 
>> 1903.
>>
>> Bruce
> 


From RKolba0211 at aol.com  Sat Aug  8 14:04:55 2009
From: RKolba0211 at aol.com (RKolba0211 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:04:55 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Hexaphone headboard
Message-ID: <c5f.59ccdf16.37af4277@aol.com>

Are you still looking for a repro Hexaphone headboard? I may have an  
extra.    Bob Kolba
 
 
In a message dated 7/20/2009 2:10:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ger55 at comcast.net writes:


A few  months ago, someone had some repro Hexaphone headboards (piece above 
the  machine for writing).
I'm not sure what the correct term is, but I am  looking for this piece for 
my machine.

Can anyone tell me where I might  get either an original OR a repro of the 
Hexaphone headboard?

OR, can  the person who made these, make me one???

Or, failing that, can someone  give me a detailed diagram with measurements 
and specs so that I can have one  made myself?? 

Thanks so  much,
Ger
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From mtucker at exemail.com.au  Sat Aug  8 14:55:53 2009
From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:55:53 +1000
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing
Message-ID: <000001ca1873$00dab7c0$02902740$@com.au>

Received this information from Terry Baer.

 

"Sorry for delayed response.  The model C used a unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture an early two minute mandrel shaft.  Remove
the mandrel and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger 5/8" feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.  Now slip the
whole assembly in the top works."

 

Mike Tucker


From loran at oldcrank.com  Sun Aug  9 07:54:13 2009
From: loran at oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:54:13 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Apology
In-Reply-To: <000001ca17df$2af5ad10$80e10730$@com.au>
References: <000001ca17df$2af5ad10$80e10730$@com.au>
Message-ID: <D202AB4D-2B6D-435C-A978-CFE9FB69B015@oldcrank.com>

No need to apologize, Mike. It happens all the time!

Regards,
Loran

On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Mike Tucker wrote:

>
> Sincere apologies for misspelling your name on my two emails. Have  
> rapped my
> knuckles and promise to do better next time.
>


From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Sun Aug  9 10:11:51 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:11:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] Every Morn I bring her Chicken - 1903 Columbia
Message-ID: <1279579587.6915591249837911696.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFVv9fg7xU 

Here is the other posting to Youtube. My guess on this one would be either Dan W. Quinn, or possibly Bob Roberts 
again. I am having some trouble finding the lyrics for this one, if anyone finds the Lyrics on line send me the site address and will post them when I have a chance. 

Bruce 

From lherault at bu.edu  Sun Aug  9 10:59:40 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:59:40 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing
In-Reply-To: <000001ca1873$00dab7c0$02902740$@com.au>
References: <000001ca1873$00dab7c0$02902740$@com.au>
Message-ID: <15D16DFD62A54F3484E2ADD52B74A7A5@ronlherault>

"You'd be here quicker if you slipped on the top step."*

Ron L

"Darktown Strutters Ball" into on Edison DD.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Tucker
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:56 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing

Received this information from Terry Baer.

 

"Sorry for delayed response.  The model C used a unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture an early two minute mandrel shaft.  Remove
the mandrel and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger 5/8" feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.  Now slip the
whole assembly in the top works."

 

Mike Tucker

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From Srsells1 at aol.com  Sun Aug  9 13:27:40 2009
From: Srsells1 at aol.com (Srsells1 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:27:40 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone want a Victrola who is near Central New Jersey
Message-ID: <be2.54b2deb5.37b08b3c@aol.com>

 
Hi All!
 
I got the following email from a man in Central New Jersey who wrote:
 
"I have a old Victrola I  believe it is a flat top console the wood is  in 
poor condition but the mechanical appears OK and some old records . I live 
in  New Jersey I understand Its not worth much but would be happier to get a 
few  bucks than put it in the trash. Because it weighs so much shipping is a 
 problem.Would you or anyone you know in the Philadelpha area have any 
interest  in this. "
 
He further wrote: "It is in Bayville NJ a little south of toms river . I  
live in Fanwood NJ"
 
If anyone is interested in this machine, please email me OFF list at:  
StevenrammATaolDOTcom and I'll give you the man's email address to contact  him.
 
Steve Ramm


From waykos at shaw.ca  Sun Aug  9 19:18:47 2009
From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:18:47 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone
Message-ID: <9994AFB3F36A4A448D3ECBDFD353903D@WaynePC>

Hi all.I have nice all original and fully working Mikiphone for sale.The case has some light wear to the nickel on top only.The resonator is in perfect condition.The needle tin and leather case are missing.I'm asking 515.00 USD + shipping.You can contact me off list at waykos at shaw.ca 

From Zonophone2006 at aol.com  Tue Aug 11 08:37:50 2009
From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:37:50 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2
Message-ID: <c61.51c88efc.37b2ea4e@aol.com>

I am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison idelia 
 d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon
if anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up
thank you
zono
 




From elcaminonyc at aol.com  Tue Aug 11 14:43:01 2009
From: elcaminonyc at aol.com (elcaminonyc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:43:01 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2
In-Reply-To: <c61.51c88efc.37b2ea4e@aol.com>
References: <c61.51c88efc.37b2ea4e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBE8E3D5B20208-63C-A89@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com>

Hello Mr m---what else u thinking of parting with?





-----Original Message-----

From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com

To: phono-l at oldcrank.org

Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:37 am

Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2





















I am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison 
idelia

 d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon

if anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up

thank you

zono









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From mtucker at exemail.com.au  Tue Aug 11 15:02:22 2009
From: mtucker at exemail.com.au (Mike Tucker)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:02:22 +1000
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Trade Mark decals
Message-ID: <000001ca1acf$685da340$3918e9c0$@com.au>

Does anyone have any of the APSCO solvent type large Edison Trade Mark
decals to spare?

I need 6 of them if possible, but even one would be great.

 

Please contact me at mtucker at exemail.com.au


From chrisk33 at cox.net  Wed Aug 12 17:35:55 2009
From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
Message-ID: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>

I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody 
Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in 
excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked 
like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a 
strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the 
grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these 
holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.

I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes 
could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never 
seen anything like them before).

Many thanks,

Chris
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From Srsells1 at aol.com  Thu Aug 13 15:20:55 2009
From: Srsells1 at aol.com (Srsells1 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:55 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released!
Message-ID: <d06.5c4cf130.37b5ebc7@aol.com>

 
I just got the new Dust-to-Digital Newsletter and there is BIG news!   I'll 
let you all read about it below. The graphics probably won't come trough so 
 Go to _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_ 
(http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm)   to see the photos.

Steve Ramm
 
 
 


 
 
 
Having trouble viewing this email? 
Go to _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_ 
(http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm)  

Newsletter : August  2009
New Release

_Click here if you have problems seeing the  Au Clair de la Lune video 
above this line_ (http://www.vimeo.com/6042451) . 

 (http://www.parlortone.com/) Au Clair de la  Lune
PT-1001 / Single-sided, 45rpm record with etched  back
Release Date: September 15, 2009 
In 2008 the _First Sounds_ (http://www.firstsounds.org/)  collaborative 
corrected the  history of recorded sound when it identified?and played back?a 
recording of the  human voice inscribed on paper, in Paris, 17 years before 
Thomas Edison invented  the phonograph. _?douard-L?on Scott de  Martinville_ 
(http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/scott-2.jpg)  entrusted this and 
other documents with the _Institute of France?s Academy of  Sciences_ 
(http://www.academie-sciences.fr/)  in the summer of 1861. With this deposit he 
sought to establish the  priority of his sound-inscribing invention, the 
_phonautograph_ (http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/phonautograph.jpg) .  He 
included several phonautograms made in 1860 of vocal scales, songs, and  
recitations. 

Example ?No. 5??_Au Clair de la  Lune_ 
(http://www.parlortone.com/images/au-clair-cover.jpg)  from April 9th 1860?is the earliest dated sound 
recording in the  deposit. Scott prepared its recording surface by wrapping a sheet 
of paper  around a cylinder which he rotated over a smoking lantern to cover 
with soot. He  recorded with two styli?one driven by the vibrations of a 
tuning fork, the other  driven by a membrane vibrating in sympathy with his 
voice. He removed the paper  from the cylinder and immersed it in an 
alcohol-based fixative.  

 (http://parlortone.com/) Scott made this recording to be seen, not heard. 
He sang  purposely into his instrument to reveal the shape of sounds and the 
frequency of  his notes. In listening to Au Clair we eavesdrop not on a 
musical  performance, but on a scientific experiment?wafting imperfectly 
through a window  in time. 

It is with this recording that Dust-to-Digital proudly  inaugurates its 
vinyl imprint _Parlortone_ (http://www.parlortone.com/) . The one-sided, 45rpm 
record  comes complete with an etched back, a descriptive essay and a 
reproduction of  ?douard-L?on Scott de Martinville?s original Au Clair de la Lune  
phonautogram. 

_Click here for more information_ (http://www.parlortone.com/) ; _click  
here to view photographs of the record pressing process for Au Clair de la  
Lune_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dusttodigital/sets/72157621903891773/) ; 
and _click  here to purchase a copy (in stock now)_ 
(http://www.dust-digital.com/cgi-bin/xpresscart/store.cgi?p=PT-1001_Au_Clair_de_la_Lune&s=880226100117
) .





 
____________________________________



From Muldwourp at aol.com  Thu Aug 13 15:51:09 2009
From: Muldwourp at aol.com (Muldwourp at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:51:09 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released!
Message-ID: <d37.4ff8f2ed.37b5f2dd@aol.com>

Thanks, Steve.  I just placed an order for it.  Dust-To-Digital  is a great 
outfit, worthy of everyone's support.
 
--Grant

From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Thu Aug 13 16:04:34 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:04:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] recording date for American Odeon Red Seal Opera
Message-ID: <302924873.8183541250204674720.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>


I have trouble finding any information regarding the actual recording date: 

One sided Gold & Red seal Odeon 12" Record made by the American Odean Corp. of New York # Am45014 

Don Pasquale (Lass es. o lass es mich horen, Maria Ivogun & Carl Erb with Orchestra 
recorded in Europe by the Odeon Co. 

Thanks in advance for your help. 


Bruce 

From steve_noreen at msn.com  Thu Aug 13 17:46:26 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:46:26 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
Message-ID: <COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020@phx.gbl>


I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but I would have used a broken record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was able to play the record.  

Are they chipped or melted?

I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a full refund and pay return postage.  E+ does not have holes.  

Steve

> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
> From: chrisk33 at cox.net
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
> 
> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody 
> Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in 
> excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked 
> like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a 
> strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the 
> grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these 
> holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.
> 
> I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes 
> could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never 
> seen anything like them before).
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Chris
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From RROCRREC at aol.com  Thu Aug 13 18:43:38 2009
From: RROCRREC at aol.com (RROCRREC at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:43:38 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
Message-ID: <c76.4d007e53.37b61b4a@aol.com>

Any information of CAPS convention?
 
 
In a message dated 8/13/2009 17:49:15 Pacific Daylight Time,  
phono-l-request at oldcrank.org writes:

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Today's  Topics:

1. Re: Media Mail... (Ron  L'Herault)
2. Re: Media Mail... (Rich)
3. Re:  Post office (Steven Medved)
4. Re: Avoid UPS Ground for heavy  or large phono items
(Steven Medved)
5. Re: Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items (Mike  Stitt)
6. Re: Post office (Mike Stitt)
7. Re:  Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items
(Steven Medved)
8. all 78rpm streaming radio program on  Saturday.
(james n. vandrisse)
9. Re:  Post office (Rich)
10. Rosenfield Class M (Mike Tucker)
11. Model C Homes and Triumphs (Mike Tucker)
12. Apology (Mike  Tucker)
13. Who is the artist on these early Columbia's
(bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
14. Re: Who is the artist on  these early Columbia's (DanKj)
15. Re: Hexaphone headboard  (RKolba0211 at aol.com)
16. Edison Home C bearing (Mike  Tucker)
17. Re: Apology (Loran Hughes)
18. Every Morn I  bring her Chicken - 1903 Columbia
(bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
19. Re: Edison Home C bearing (Ron  L'Herault)
20. Anyone want a Victrola who is near Central New  Jersey
(Srsells1 at aol.com)
21. Mikiphone  (wayne)
22. EDISON IDELIA D-2 (Zonophone2006 at aol.com)
23.  Re: EDISON IDELIA D-2 (elcaminonyc at aol.com)
24. Edison Trade Mark  decals (Mike Tucker)
25. Advice please - holes in cylinder surface  (Chris Kocsis)
26. The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released!  (Srsells1 at aol.com)
27. Re: The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released!  (Muldwourp at aol.com)
28. recording date for American Odeon Red Seal  Opera
(bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
29. Re:  Advice please - holes in cylinder surface (Steven  Medved)


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Message:  1
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:12:47 -0400
From: "Ron L'Herault"  <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media  Mail...
Message-ID:  <005f01ca178a$aaf04840$4fd6299b at ad.bu.edu>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII"

The people at my post  office are super.  They are friendly and helpful.
They know what  recordings are too.  Maybe it is because I live in a  small
town?

Ron L in North Attleborough, MA,   home of the  jewelry industry in the USA

-----Original Message-----
From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]  
On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM
To: Antique  Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail...

Many eBay  sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have received 
torque  wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can understand the USPS 
problem  with this.

That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US  education 
system since we were blessed with the Department of Education  almost 50 
years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain  dumb.  They know 
nothing about history.  Never even heard about  some guy named Thomas Edison

I just love dealing with government  workers at any level.



ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
> For  those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new 
>  challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived  
> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main  post
office as 
> there was postage due.  That seemed odd since  the seller had gone to 
great

> lengths to calculate and charge  correctly.
>  
> When I arrived at the post office I  presented the young guy at the 
counter

> with my postcard.  He  went in back and retrieved the box then told me I
owed 
> another  $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and
there  
> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I  told him 
they

> were Edison cylinder records.  I asked if I  could show him.  He called
over 
> his supervisor.  They  allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a 
> cylinder  record.  Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record.   I
asked for 
> the next higher up supervisor.  They went and  brought back the 
postmaster.

> I showed him the Edison box labeled  Edison Blue Amberol Record.  He was 
> unmoved and somewhat  uncaring.  Just when I thought all was lost, an
elderly 
>  postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over,
and  
> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's  grammyphone
(sic)!" 
>  SAVED...   and then it only  took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges 
so 
> the box would be once  again just media mail.
>  
> And people wonder why our  confidence in the government bureaucracies is 
> flagging?
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Message:  2
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:36:52 -0500
From: Rich  <rich-mail at octoxol.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media  Mail...
Message-ID: <4A7C8254.8070300 at octoxol.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Small towns do  help.

Ron L'Herault wrote:
> The people at my post office are  super.  They are friendly and helpful.
> They know what recordings  are too.  Maybe it is because I live in a small
> town?
>  
> Ron L in North Attleborough, MA,   home of the jewelry  industry in the 
USA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
On
>  Behalf Of Rich
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM
> To:  Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail...
>  
> Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail.  I have  received 
> torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail.  I can  understand the USPS 
> problem with this.
> 
> That being  said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education 
> system  since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 
>  years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know  
> nothing about history.  Never even heard about some guy named  Thomas 
Edison
> 
> I just love dealing with government workers at  any level.
> 
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> 
> ClockworkHome at aol.com  wrote:
>> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service  there came a new 
>> challenge today.  I won a lot of Blue  Amberols on eBay and they arrived 
>> yesterday with a postcard note  from my carrier to go to the main post
> office as 
>> there  was postage due.  That seemed odd since the seller had gone to  
great
> 
>> lengths to calculate and charge  correctly.
>>  
>> When I arrived at the post office I  presented the young guy at the 
counter
> 
>> with my  postcard.  He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I
>  owed 
>> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after  X-raying it and
> there 
>> were no records inside so it could  not be MEDIA MAIL.  So, I told him 
they
> 
>> were Edison  cylinder records.  I asked if I could show him.  He called
>  over 
>> his supervisor.  They allowed me to reach into the box  and retrieve a 
>> cylinder record.  Both agreed that it was not  a CD and not a record.  I
> asked for 
>> the next higher  up supervisor.  They went and brought back the 
postmaster.
>  
>> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol  Record.  He was 
>> unmoved and somewhat uncaring.  Just  when I thought all was lost, an
> elderly 
>> postal worker  getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over,
> and  
>> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's  grammyphone
> (sic)!" 
>>  SAVED...   and then  it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges 
so 
>> the box  would be once again just media mail.
>>  
>> And people  wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is 
>>  flagging?
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7  Aug 2009 17:50:40 -0400
From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
To: Phono-l  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Post  office
Message-ID:  <COL118-W272CCF4ECA481DC3C0DA65F60B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


The Post Office is wonderful until  something goes wrong.  I purchased a 
reproducer from Peru back in 1994,  the clerk said to mail the Postal Money 
order Certified so I could trace  it.  It got lost and I went back and ask 
them to trace it a month  later.  I was informed the could only trace inside 
the US.  It took  me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money 
order, I finally found  a lady that told me to call her friend who took care of 
cases like mine.   

I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea  mail 
when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no refund was offered for  their 
mistake.

I recently received cylinder records that arrived  broken, after waiting 
over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me  they were not packed 
properly and no claim could be honored.

UPS is  worse.  

Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go  wrong.  So far 
all the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived  safely.  

> That being said, this just goes to show the sate of  the US education 
> system since we were blessed with the Department of  Education almost 50 
> years ago.  Little Johnny and Janie are just  plain dumb.  They know 
> nothing about history.  Never even  heard about some guy named Thomas 
Edison
> 
> I just love dealing  with government workers at any  level.



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Message:  4
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:01:03 -0400
From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
To: Phono-l  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for  heavy or large phono items
Message-ID:  <COL118-W167BA324BCE72AC0D53662F60B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


UPS loves to damage, my wife heard  them drop the Triumph they shipped at 
the door, sure enough the bedplate was  cracked in half as was the carriage.  
Fortunately I paid the guy extra to  mail the reproducer via USPS.

Their automated jaws of death sorting  system crushed my Triumph horn, they 
taped up the package and acted like  nothing happened, it took me seven 
months to get insurance  reimbursement.

When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they damaged  the box and conta
iner they transferred it in another bottle and re-taped it  and send in on 
its way.

If you win an auction and they want to use UPS  ground, pay the extra few 
dollars and go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is  light and small.  UPS 
likes to penalize heavy and or large things by  breaking them.


> Hey! I'm a government worker!!
> Ever  since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by 
charging  dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its cheaper 
 (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you ask 
me.  UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to  me.
> John Robles
> Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of  it!! :-)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry



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Message:  5
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:43:28 -0700
From: Mike Stitt  <smstitt at gmail.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for  heavy or large phono items
Message-ID:
<7e8e90ff0908071543r19535dc9s754a99bd65ef220e at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The Snap on dealer has his tools ship to  our shop. If it is a new UPS 
driver
after he sits them down I go over and  kick the box over. I ask him, didn't
you go to UPS school? Kick that stuff  around. They rush these guys, they 
are
not careful. Steven was the motor  still bolted to the bedpalate? Oh the
driver, they get the point. Can't  hurt wrenches.
Mike OC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

>
> UPS loves to damage,  my wife heard them drop the Triumph they shipped at
> the door, sure  enough the bedplate was cracked in half as was the 
carriage.
>   Fortunately I paid the guy extra to mail the reproducer via  USPS.
>
> Their automated jaws of death sorting system crushed my  Triumph horn, 
they
> taped up the package and acted like nothing  happened, it took me seven
> months to get insurance  reimbursement.
>
> When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they  damaged the box and
> container they transferred it in another bottle  and re-taped it and send 
in
> on its way.
>
> If you win an  auction and they want to use UPS ground, pay the extra few
> dollars and  go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is light and small.  
UPS
>  likes to penalize heavy and or large things by breaking  them.
>
>
> > Hey! I'm a government worker!!
> >  Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by
>  charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its
>  cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if 
 you
> ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged  shipments 
from/to
> me.
> > John Robles
> > Ventura  County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-)
> > Sent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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Message:  6
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:13 -0700
From: Mike Stitt  <smstitt at gmail.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Post  office
Message-ID:
<7e8e90ff0908071538k549da61p61249f785a165859 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've always wonder why UPS or any  shipper doesn't have a specialty handling
charge. How many buy a rare item  that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be
glad to pay extra? I would. Say it  is a small package worth $1500. Shipping
and worthless insurance  $20.00
I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe more!
Hell  it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE means and treat
it  so...
On the scale that UPS ships could you imagine the extra  
money............for
doing what they ought to  do.
Mike
Oldcranky


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven  Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

>
> The Post Office  is wonderful until something goes wrong.  I purchased a
>  reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal  
Money
> order Certified so I could trace it.  It got lost and I  went back and ask
> them to trace it a month later.  I was informed  the could only trace 
inside
> the US.  It took me over six months  to get a refund on the Postal Money
> order, I finally found a lady that  told me to call her friend who took 
care
> of cases like  mine.
>
> I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly  sent it sea mail
> when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no  refund was offered for their
> mistake.
>
> I recently  received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting
> over  thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not  
packed
> properly and no claim could be honored.
>
> UPS is  worse.
>
> Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things  go wrong.  So far 
all
> the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have  arrived safely.
>
> > That being said, this just goes to show  the sate of the US education
> > system since we were blessed with  the Department of Education almost 50
> > years ago.  Little  Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know
> > nothing  about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas
>  Edison
> >
> > I just love dealing with government workers  at any level.
>
>  _______________________________________________
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>  http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Message:  7
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:32:14 -0400
From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
To: Phono-l  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for  heavy or large phono items
Message-ID:  <COL118-W31D06D0AB8F1CFD26C2803F60B0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


The motor was still bolted to the  bed plate and it was in a home made box 
that had replaced the original Edison  case.  If the had not dropped it the 
bed plate would not have  damaged.  UPS drivers are timed and for the books 
and light things I get  from Amazon.com UPS ground is excellent.  

My main point is to  avoid them for anything that can be easily damaged or 
has value.  If my  post saves one phono it will be worth it.


> The Snap on dealer  has his tools ship to our shop. If it is a new UPS 
driver
> after he  sits them down I go over and kick the box over. I ask him, 
didn't
> you  go to UPS school? Kick that stuff around. They rush these guys, they 
 are
> not careful. Steven was the motor still bolted to the bedpalate?  Oh the
> driver, they get the point. Can't hurt wrenches.
> Mike  OC
> 



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Message:  8
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "james n. vandrisse"  <jnormanvandrisse at yahoo.com>
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject:  [Phono-L] all 78rpm streaming radio program on Saturday.
Message-ID:  <685112.87020.qm at web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1





(J.M.J.)
?
The all  78rpm radio show streaming at www.wtkm.com is now scheduled for 
Saturday,  August 8, 2009 at 11:30am-Noon C.D.T., as it did not air last 
Saturday. It is  entitled The Life and Times of Romy Gosz.      

Jim  VanDrisse




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 07  Aug 2009 18:53:36 -0500
From: Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com>
To:  Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Post office
Message-ID:  <4A7CBE80.8050003 at octoxol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Actually, the USPS does have exactly  that program for unique and/or high 
value items.  Its called  Registered Mail.  They even offer actual 
insurance also.  Every  Registered item is hand carried into and out of 
the registered mail  truck.  registered mail is totally segregated from 
any other  mail.  As this is a USPS service that is why UPS, FedEx etc do 
not  offer a competing service.

UPS, FedEx, and USPS are not actually  offering insurance.  Only USPS 
Registered Mail offers true  insurance.  If you are interested go read 
their tariff regulations or  the Domestic mail manual.  They tell you 
that it is not  insurance.

Mike Stitt wrote:
> I've always wonder why UPS or any  shipper doesn't have a specialty 
handling
> charge. How many buy a rare  item that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be
> glad to pay extra? I  would. Say it is a small package worth $1500. 
Shipping
> and worthless  insurance $20.00
> I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe  more!
> Hell it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE  means and 
treat
> it so...
> On the scale that UPS ships could you  imagine the extra 
money............for
> doing what they ought to  do.
> Mike
> Oldcranky
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 7,  2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> 
wrote:
>  
>> The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong.  I  purchased a
>> reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to  mail the Postal 
Money
>> order Certified so I could trace it.   It got lost and I went back and 
ask
>> them to trace it a month  later.  I was informed the could only trace 
inside
>> the  US.  It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal  Money
>> order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her  friend who took 
care
>> of cases like mine.
>>
>> I  sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea  
mail
>> when I paid for air mail.  In both cases no refund was  offered for their
>> mistake.
>>
>> I recently  received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting
>> over  thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not  
packed
>> properly and no claim could be  honored.
>>
>> UPS is worse.
>>
>> Fed Ex  is the only company that is decent when things go wrong.  So far 
 all
>> the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived  safely.
>>
>>> That being said, this just goes to show  the sate of the US education
>>> system since we were blessed with  the Department of Education almost 50
>>> years ago.  Little  Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb.  They know
>>> nothing  about history.  Never even heard about some guy named Thomas
>>  Edison
>>> I just love dealing with government workers at any  level.
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 8  Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000
From: "Mike Tucker"  <mtucker at exemail.com.au>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject:  [Phono-L] Rosenfield Class M
Message-ID:  <000501ca17de$9de46510$d9ad2f30$@com.au>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

Hi  Lauren,



Would appreciate the following being  listed.



Mike Tucker  (mtucker at exetel.com.au)





ROSENFIELD CLASS M COIN  OPS



I have purchased two Rosenfield Class M coin op cabinets  and am in the
process of restoring same.



I have all the  necessary parts and information except for the repeater and
the  signboard.



I am keen to obtain by purchase, loan, swap, or a  combination thereof, a
topworks with the Class M Rosenfield repeater. I am  also prepared to
purchase a complete machine or a wreck, as long as the  repeater is present.
Transport to Australia can be organised with minimal  problem to the sender.
If a loan is considered, appropriate guarantees can  be provided through
senior USA collectors



I can supply  reproduction Class M parts, including cabinet, motor, governor
block or  deck in any deal.



No Rosenfield Class M's out here, so I would  really appreciate assistance 
to
get these rare machines in working  order.



As I am sure Rosenfield advertised his coin ops, so does  anyone have a copy
of one of his ads for the Class M coin op? It is  different to that used on
the later AZ Columbia based machines. If anyone  actually has a backboard, a
good photo would be a great  help.



Please contact me on email  mtucker at exemail.com.au



Many thanks,



Mike  Tucker



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Message:  11
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000
From: "Mike Tucker"  <mtucker at exemail.com.au>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject:  [Phono-L] Model C Homes and Triumphs
Message-ID:  <000001ca17de$9db4c990$d91e5cb0$@com.au>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

Hi again  Lauren,



Would appreciate this one also being  posted.



Best wishes,





Mike  Tucker





Edison Model C Homes and  Triumphs



Some time ago I purchased a Model C Edison Home, which  is set up for 2/4
minutes with correct Model C parts.



A  friend is restoring another of these machines and made the point that  as
these machines were originally supposed to be for 2 minutes only,  the
bearing hole in the mandrel pillar is too small for a normal 2  minute
mandrel to fit and have a suitable bearing. 



I tend  to agree that Edison would not have used an almost paper thin
bearing, so  the question is what type of mandrel shaft/leadscrew and  
bearing
arrangement was used on the Home and Triumph Model  C's?



If anyone has one of these with an original 2 minute  arrangement, I would
love to know the details.



Photos would  be fantastic and could be sent to me at  
mtucker at exemail.com.au.



Mike Tucker  



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Message: 12
Date:  Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:17:39 +1000
From: "Mike Tucker"  <mtucker at exemail.com.au>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject:  [Phono-L] Apology
Message-ID:  <000001ca17df$2af5ad10$80e10730$@com.au>
Content-Type:  text/plain;     charset="us-ascii"

Loran,



Sincere apologies for  misspelling your name on my two emails. Have rapped 
my
knuckles and promise  to do better next time.



Best wishes,



Mike  Tucker



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Message:  13
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:39:25 +0000 (UTC)
From:  bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: 78-L <78-L at 78online.com>
Cc: Phonolist  <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>, Phono-L
<Phono-L at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these  early Columbia's
Message-ID:
<783386053.6787231249753165133.JavaMail.root at sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.com
cast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


I just picked up  a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" Columbia 
Ragtime Comedy  songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers and 
titles: "Ain't Dat a  Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I bring her 
Chicken " Baritone  Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a ragtime number 
sounding alot like a take  off on "Won't you come home Bill Bailey) could be Bob 
Roberts, but I am not  totally certain, while the "Chicken" song sounds a 
good deal like Dan W.  Quinn, but again I would like to be sure as to who the 
artist is. Thanks in  advance for your help. According to Steve's dating book 
378 would be 1901 and  1448 would be 1903. 

Bruce  


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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 08  Aug 2009 14:09:32 -0400
From: "DanKj" <edisone1 at verizon.net>
To:  "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's
Message-ID:  <49E0EDD5CCA94CD49180A0A67177CBB4 at moms>
Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=response

Columbia Master Book says Arthur Collins., for  both
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
> To: "78-L"  <78-L at 78online.com>
> Cc: "Phono-L" <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>;  "Phonolist" 
> <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday,  August 08, 2009 1:39 PM
> Subject: [phonolist] Who is the artist on  these early Columbia's
>
>
>>
>> I just picked  up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" 
>> Columbia  Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the 
numbers 
>>  and titles: "Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I 
 
>> bring her Chicken " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame"  (a 
>> ragtime number sounding alot like a take off on "Won't you  come home 
Bill 
>> Bailey) could be Bob Roberts, but I am not totally  certain, while the 
>> "Chicken" song sounds a good deal like Dan W.  Quinn, but again I would 
>> like to be sure as to who the artist is.  Thanks in advance for your 
help. 
>> According to Steve's dating book  378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be 
>> 1903.
>>
>>  Bruce
> 



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Message:  15
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:04:55 EDT
From: RKolba0211 at aol.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hexaphone  headboard
Message-ID:  <c5f.59ccdf16.37af4277 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Are you still looking for a repro Hexaphone  headboard? I may have an  
extra.    Bob Kolba


In  a message dated 7/20/2009 2:10:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   
ger55 at comcast.net writes:


A few  months ago, someone had  some repro Hexaphone headboards (piece 
above 
the  machine for  writing).
I'm not sure what the correct term is, but I am  looking for  this piece 
for 
my machine.

Can anyone tell me where I might   get either an original OR a repro of the 
Hexaphone headboard?

OR,  can  the person who made these, make me one???

Or, failing that,  can someone  give me a detailed diagram with 
measurements 
and specs  so that I can have one  made myself?? 

Thanks so   much,
Ger
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Message:  16
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:55:53 +1000
From: "Mike Tucker"  <mtucker at exemail.com.au>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject:  [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing
Message-ID:  <000001ca1873$00dab7c0$02902740$@com.au>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

Received this information  from Terry Baer.



"Sorry for delayed response.  The model C  used a unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture an  early two minute mandrel shaft.  
Remove
the mandrel and turn down the  area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger 5/8"  feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID.
Now slip on  a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.  Now slip the
whole  assembly in the top works."



Mike  Tucker



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Message:  17
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:54:13 -0700
From: Loran Hughes  <loran at oldcrank.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Apology
Message-ID:  <D202AB4D-2B6D-435C-A978-CFE9FB69B015 at oldcrank.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

No need to  apologize, Mike. It happens all the time!

Regards,
Loran

On  Aug 7, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Mike Tucker wrote:

>
> Sincere  apologies for misspelling your name on my two emails. Have  
>  rapped my
> knuckles and promise to do better next  time.
>



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Message:  18
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:11:51 +0000 (UTC)
From:  bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: 78-L <78-L at 78online.com>, Phono-L  <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>,
Phonolist  <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Phono-L] Every Morn I bring her  Chicken - 1903 Columbia
Message-ID:
<1279579587.6915591249837911696.JavaMail.root at sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.co
mcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=utf-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFVv9fg7xU 

Here  is the other posting to Youtube. My guess on this one would be either 
Dan W.  Quinn, or possibly Bob Roberts 
again. I am having some trouble finding the  lyrics for this one, if anyone 
finds the Lyrics on line send me the site  address and will post them when 
I have a chance. 

Bruce  


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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 09  Aug 2009 13:59:40 -0400
From: "Ron L'Herault"  <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Home C  bearing
Message-ID:  <15D16DFD62A54F3484E2ADD52B74A7A5 at ronlherault>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii

"You'd be here quicker if you slipped on  the top step."*

Ron L

"Darktown Strutters Ball" into on Edison  DD.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]  
On
Behalf Of Mike Tucker
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:56 PM
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C  bearing

Received this information from Terry  Baer.



"Sorry for delayed response.  The model C used a  unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture an early two  minute mandrel shaft.  
Remove
the mandrel and turn down the area under  the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger 5/8" feedscrew.  Now  slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with  smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.  Now slip the
whole assembly in the  top works."



Mike  Tucker

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Message:  20
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:27:40 EDT
From: Srsells1 at aol.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone want a Victrola who is near  Central New
Jersey
Message-ID:  <be2.54b2deb5.37b08b3c at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"


Hi All!

I got the following email from a  man in Central New Jersey who wrote:

"I have a old Victrola I   believe it is a flat top console the wood is  in 
poor condition but  the mechanical appears OK and some old records . I live 
in  New  Jersey I understand Its not worth much but would be happier to get 
a  
few  bucks than put it in the trash. Because it weighs so much  shipping is 
a 
problem.Would you or anyone you know in the Philadelpha area  have any 
interest  in this. "

He further wrote: "It is in  Bayville NJ a little south of toms river . I  
live in Fanwood  NJ"

If anyone is interested in this machine, please email me OFF list  at:  
StevenrammATaolDOTcom and I'll give you the man's email address  to contact 
 him.

Steve  Ramm



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Message: 21
Date:  Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:18:47 -0700
From: "wayne" <waykos at shaw.ca>
To:  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone
Message-ID:  <9994AFB3F36A4A448D3ECBDFD353903D at WaynePC>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi all.I have nice all  original and fully working Mikiphone for sale.The 
case has some light wear to  the nickel on top only.The resonator is in 
perfect condition.The needle tin  and leather case are missing.I'm asking 515.00 
USD + shipping.You can contact  me off list at waykos at shaw.ca  

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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 11 Aug  2009 11:37:50 EDT
From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2
Message-ID:  <c61.51c88efc.37b2ea4e at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

I am in the process of thinning out my collection  and have an edison 
idelia 
d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon
if  anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up
thank  you
zono






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Message:  23
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:43:01 -0400
From:  elcaminonyc at aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  EDISON IDELIA D-2
Message-ID:  <8CBE8E3D5B20208-63C-A89 at webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Hello Mr m---what else u  thinking of parting with?





-----Original  Message-----

From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com

To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org

Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:37 am

Subject:  [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA  D-2





















I  am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison  
idelia

d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon

if anyone is  interested please contact me off list before i put it up

thank  you

zono









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Message:  24
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:02:22 +1000
From: "Mike Tucker"  <mtucker at exemail.com.au>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject:  [Phono-L] Edison Trade Mark decals
Message-ID:  <000001ca1acf$685da340$3918e9c0$@com.au>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

Does anyone have any of the  APSCO solvent type large Edison Trade Mark
decals to spare?

I need 6  of them if possible, but even one would be great.



Please  contact me at  mtucker at exemail.com.au



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Message:  25
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
From: Chris Kocsis  <chrisk33 at cox.net>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in  cylinder surface
Message-ID:  <4A835FEB.3080503 at cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"

I just got a cylinder I won on  eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody 
Works But Father) to replace  mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in 
excellent + condition,  and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked 
like it was.  But as I  turned it to examine it closely, I found a 
strange, almost patterned  number of deep circular pits among the 
grooves.  I'm afraid to play  it in case the stylus catches in these 
holes and gets ripped out.   I'm attaching a picture.

I would appreciate advice (as well as any  information on how these holes 
could have formed -- I'm not an experienced  collector, but I've never 
seen anything like them before).

Many  thanks,

Chris
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Message:  26
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:55 EDT
From: Srsells1 at aol.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY  released!
Message-ID:  <d06.5c4cf130.37b5ebc7 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="UTF-8"


I just got the new Dust-to-Digital Newsletter and  there is BIG news!   
I'll 
let you all read about it below. The  graphics probably won't come trough 
so 
Go to  _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_  
(http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm)   to see the  photos.

Steve Ramm








Having trouble  viewing this email? 
Go to _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_  
(http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm)  

Newsletter :  August  2009
New Release

_Click here if you have problems  seeing the  Au Clair de la Lune video 
above this line_  (http://www.vimeo.com/6042451) . 

(http://www.parlortone.com/) Au Clair  de la  Lune
PT-1001 / Single-sided, 45rpm record with etched   back
Release Date: September 15, 2009 
In 2008 the _First Sounds_  (http://www.firstsounds.org/)  collaborative 
corrected the   history of recorded sound when it identified?and played 
back?a 
recording  of the  human voice inscribed on paper, in Paris, 17 years 
before  
Thomas Edison invented  the phonograph. _?douard-L?on Scott de   
Martinville_ 
(http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/scott-2.jpg)   entrusted this and 
other documents with the _Institute of France?s Academy  of  Sciences_ 
(http://www.academie-sciences.fr/)  in the summer  of 1861. With this 
deposit he 
sought to establish the  priority of  his sound-inscribing invention, the 
_phonautograph_  (http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/phonautograph.jpg) 
.  He  
included several phonautograms made in 1860 of vocal scales, songs,  and  
recitations. 

Example ?No. 5??_Au Clair de la  Lune_  
(http://www.parlortone.com/images/au-clair-cover.jpg)  from April 9th  
1860?is the earliest dated sound 
recording in the  deposit. Scott  prepared its recording surface by 
wrapping a sheet 
of paper  around a  cylinder which he rotated over a smoking lantern to 
cover 
with soot.  He  recorded with two styli?one driven by the vibrations of a 
tuning  fork, the other  driven by a membrane vibrating in sympathy with 
his  
voice. He removed the paper  from the cylinder and immersed it in an  
alcohol-based fixative.  

(http://parlortone.com/) Scott made  this recording to be seen, not heard. 
He sang  purposely into his  instrument to reveal the shape of sounds and 
the 
frequency of  his  notes. In listening to Au Clair we eavesdrop not on a 
musical   performance, but on a scientific experiment?wafting imperfectly 
through a  window  in time. 

It is with this recording that Dust-to-Digital  proudly  inaugurates its 
vinyl imprint _Parlortone_  (http://www.parlortone.com/) . The one-sided, 
45rpm 
record  comes  complete with an etched back, a descriptive essay and a 
reproduction  of  ?douard-L?on Scott de Martinville?s original Au Clair de 
la  Lune  
phonautogram. 

_Click here for more information_  (http://www.parlortone.com/) ; _click  
here to view photographs of  the record pressing process for Au Clair de la 
 
Lune_  (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dusttodigital/sets/72157621903891773/) 
; 
and  _click  here to purchase a copy (in stock now)_  
(http://www.dust-digital.com/cgi-bin/xpresscart/store.cgi?p=PT-1001_Au_Clair
_de_la_Lune&s=880226100117
)  .






____________________________________




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Message:  27
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:51:09 EDT
From: Muldwourp at aol.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY  released!
Message-ID:  <d37.4ff8f2ed.37b5f2dd at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Thanks, Steve.  I just placed an order for  it.  Dust-To-Digital  is a 
great 
outfit, worthy of everyone's  support.

--Grant


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Message:  28
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:04:34 +0000 (UTC)
From:  bruce78rpm at comcast.net
To: 78-L <78-L at 78online.com>, Phono-L  <Phono-L at oldcrank.org>,
Phonolist  <Phonolist at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Phono-L] recording date for  American Odeon Red Seal Opera
Message-ID:
<302924873.8183541250204674720.JavaMail.root at sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.com
cast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


I have trouble  finding any information regarding the actual recording 
date: 

One sided  Gold & Red seal Odeon 12" Record made by the American Odean 
Corp. of New  York # Am45014 

Don Pasquale (Lass es. o lass es mich horen, Maria  Ivogun & Carl Erb with 
Orchestra 
recorded in Europe by the Odeon Co.  

Thanks in advance for your help. 


Bruce  


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Message: 29
Date: Thu, 13  Aug 2009 20:46:26 -0400
From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
To: Phono-l  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes  in cylinder surface
Message-ID:  <COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


I believe I used candle wax to  fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but I 
would have used a broken  record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was 
able to play the  record.  

Are they chipped or melted?

I have no idea how  the holes got there, but the seller should give you a 
full refund and pay  return postage.  E+ does not have holes.  

Steve

>  Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
> From: chrisk33 at cox.net
>  To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in  cylinder surface
> 
> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison  9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody 
> Works But Father) to replace mine that  cracked.  It was advertised as in 
> excellent + condition, and as  I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked 
> like it was.  But as I  turned it to examine it closely, I found a 
> strange, almost patterned  number of deep circular pits among the 
> grooves.  I'm afraid to  play it in case the stylus catches in these 
> holes and gets ripped  out.  I'm attaching a picture.
> 
> I would appreciate advice  (as well as any information on how these holes 
> could have formed --  I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never 
> seen anything like  them before).
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Chris
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From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 13 19:12:39 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:12:39 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020@phx.gbl>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
	<COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4e885f140908131912m3612dbfqdcceaa972e050132@mail.gmail.com>

Those holes or divits look like needle drops-or bugs did it????
Abe

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

>
> I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but I
> would have used a broken record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was
> able to play the record.
>
> Are they chipped or melted?
>
> I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a
> full refund and pay return postage.  E+ does not have holes.
>
> Steve
>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
> > From: chrisk33 at cox.net
> > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
> >
> > I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody
> > Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in
> > excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked
> > like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a
> > strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the
> > grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these
> > holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.
> >
> > I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes
> > could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never
> > seen anything like them before).
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> > -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
> > **An Attachment Was Scrubbed**
> > Name: 9100 holes.jpg
> > Type: image/jpeg
> > Size: 52776 bytes
> > URL: <
> http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg
> >
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From chrisk33 at cox.net  Thu Aug 13 19:31:25 2009
From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:31:25 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4e885f140908131912m3612dbfqdcceaa972e050132@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>	<COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020@phx.gbl>
	<4e885f140908131912m3612dbfqdcceaa972e050132@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A84CC7D.1020702@cox.net>

Maybe bugs, they're so neat and round, like carpenter bee holes.  But 
not much deeper than wide.

The seller was very nice and refunded the purchase instantly.

Abe Feder wrote:
> Those holes or divits look like needle drops-or bugs did it????
> Abe
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but I
>> would have used a broken record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was
>> able to play the record.
>>
>> Are they chipped or melted?
>>
>> I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a
>> full refund and pay return postage.  E+ does not have holes.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>     
>>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
>>> From: chrisk33 at cox.net
>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
>>>
>>> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody
>>> Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in
>>> excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked
>>> like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a
>>> strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the
>>> grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these
>>> holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes
>>> could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never
>>> seen anything like them before).
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
>>> **An Attachment Was Scrubbed**
>>> Name: 9100 holes.jpg
>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>> Size: 52776 bytes
>>> URL: <
>>>       
>> http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg
>>     
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From sdcorbett at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 13 22:50:50 2009
From: sdcorbett at earthlink.net (Scott and Denise Corbett)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <c76.4d007e53.37b61b4a@aol.com>
References: <c76.4d007e53.37b61b4a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301ca1ca3$2e613550$8b239ff0$@net>

For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has
been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer)
for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down
here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots,
and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's
immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him
crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a
concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what
volume!
Mark your calendars for next August!

-Scott & Denise Corbett

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150

Any information of CAPS convention?
 


From stan at clarphon.com  Fri Aug 14 07:44:17 2009
From: stan at clarphon.com (Stan Stanford)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:44:17 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
References: <c76.4d007e53.37b61b4a@aol.com>
	<000301ca1ca3$2e613550$8b239ff0$@net>
Message-ID: <003601ca1ced$b44cf650$6601a8c0@thomaslaptop>

Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were interesting 
machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs 
and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott 
and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over the 
past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the 
projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the 
pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this we 
heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David 
Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!

Stan Stanford, President
Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


> For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show 
> has
> been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus 
> reproducer)
> for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
> One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get 
> down
> here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
> show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 
> lots,
> and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
> range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & 
> Hardy's
> immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
> time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching 
> him
> crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
> The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard 
> a
> concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what
> volume!
> Mark your calendars for next August!
>
> -Scott & Denise Corbett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
>
> Any information of CAPS convention?
>
>
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From edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 14 08:48:45 2009
From: edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com (Thomas Edison)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
In-Reply-To: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
References: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Message-ID: <SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>


I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when I can.    I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do phonographs.

_________________________________________________________________
Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1

From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 11:36:15 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:36:15 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4A84CC7D.1020702@cox.net>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
	<COL118-W46F1C52012B9402FB60BC1F6020@phx.gbl>
	<4e885f140908131912m3612dbfqdcceaa972e050132@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A84CC7D.1020702@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4e885f140908141136i3ddced5aq8ea6e43073e9c4cb@mail.gmail.com>

Chris,glad things worked out for you -Abe

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Chris Kocsis <chrisk33 at cox.net> wrote:

> Maybe bugs, they're so neat and round, like carpenter bee holes.  But not
> much deeper than wide.
>
> The seller was very nice and refunded the purchase instantly.
>
> Abe Feder wrote:
>
>> Those holes or divits look like needle drops-or bugs did it????
>> Abe
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but
>>> I
>>> would have used a broken record.  I think it was a wax amberol and I was
>>> able to play the record.
>>>
>>> Are they chipped or melted?
>>>
>>> I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a
>>> full refund and pay return postage.  E+ does not have holes.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400
>>>> From: chrisk33 at cox.net
>>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
>>>>
>>>> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody
>>>> Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked.  It was advertised as in
>>>> excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked
>>>> like it was.  But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a
>>>> strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the
>>>> grooves.  I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these
>>>> holes and gets ripped out.  I'm attaching a picture.
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes
>>>> could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never
>>>> seen anything like them before).
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
>>>> **An Attachment Was Scrubbed**
>>>> Name: 9100 holes.jpg
>>>> Type: image/jpeg
>>>> Size: 52776 bytes
>>>> URL: <
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg
>>>
>>>
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From boruffb at flash.net  Fri Aug 14 11:47:14 2009
From: boruffb at flash.net (Bill Boruff)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:47:14 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
In-Reply-To: <SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
	<SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0F210A6E-12EC-4BD5-AAE6-9AC74A3B14F0@flash.net>

I have had success shipping cylinders in PVC pipe. I first put paper  
towels or some other support paper in the core of the record before  
putting the record in its box.  I then wrap the cylinder boxes in  
bubble wrap and  then put them in 5" diameter PVC pipe (thin wall to  
minimize weight) which is cut to 6" length. Then I package the PVC  
pieces (one or more cylinders)  in a box with suitable peanuts for  
shipping. To date I have not had one get broken.

On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Edison wrote:

>
> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now  
> try to by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides,  
> and wrap my cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then  
> bubble wrap around that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3  
> rows of blanks.  There is nothing as disheartning as sending out a  
> dozen cylinders which all an all is 12 hours of work, and a month  
> of setting.  I usually double the insuance on them so the customer  
> can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I much rather  
> hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes  
> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so  
> I do not make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I  
> sell I make  when I can.    I estimated that in the New York  
> adventure, I had almost $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from  
> me.   Never been quite able to recover from that, I work for DHS  
> making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do phonographs.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
> http://www.bing.com/cashback? 
> form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCas 
> hback_1x1
> _______________________________________________
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Fri Aug 14 12:47:47 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Help me find a diaphragm?
Message-ID: <317356.45618.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hmm, sounds weird..
Anyhow, I am looking for 1 or better yet 2 original Edison Diamond C reproducer diaphragms with intact cotton link for the stylus bar.? I have a Diamond C with a repro diaphragm that sounds like crap and I love the warm sound of an original.
All assistance is appreciated!
Thanks
John Robles

From smstitt at gmail.com  Fri Aug 14 13:27:30 2009
From: smstitt at gmail.com (Mike Stitt)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:27:30 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
In-Reply-To: <0F210A6E-12EC-4BD5-AAE6-9AC74A3B14F0@flash.net>
References: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
	<SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
	<0F210A6E-12EC-4BD5-AAE6-9AC74A3B14F0@flash.net>
Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0908141327k75b8f13ct8274ecb901e1bd10@mail.gmail.com>

Stuff the inside of the record too. Light pack it with paper.
Mike OC

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Bill Boruff <boruffb at flash.net> wrote:

> I have had success shipping cylinders in PVC pipe. I first put paper towels
> or some other support paper in the core of the record before putting the
> record in its box.  I then wrap the cylinder boxes in bubble wrap and  then
> put them in 5" diameter PVC pipe (thin wall to minimize weight) which is cut
> to 6" length. Then I package the PVC pieces (one or more cylinders)  in a
> box with suitable peanuts for shipping. To date I have not had one get
> broken.
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Thomas Edison wrote:
>
>
>> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
>> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
>> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
>> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
>> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
>> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
>> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
>> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
>> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
>> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
>> I can.    I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
>> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
>> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
>> phonographs.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>> http://www.bing.com/cashback
>> ?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

From dan at old-phonographs.com  Fri Aug 14 14:42:42 2009
From: dan at old-phonographs.com (Daniel Melvin)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:42:42 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
In-Reply-To: <d14f697b0908141441q3a3779c3s9e4aa793543779b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
	<SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
	<d14f697b0908141441q3a3779c3s9e4aa793543779b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d14f697b0908141442g1672635ex1c1bf66bbc1cc4c7@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, this is a better link to the video...

http://tinfoil.com/collectr.htm#packing

Dan

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Melvin <dan at old-phonographs.com>wrote:

> Here is a link on tinfoi.com to a good lesson on packing and shipping
> cylinders. It's kind of fun to watch and is good information.
>
> http://tinfoil.com/outtakes.htm
>
> Dan
>   On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Thomas Edison <
> edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
>> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
>> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
>> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
>> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
>> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
>> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
>> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
>> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
>> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
>> I can.    I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
>> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
>> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
>> phonographs.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>>
>> http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>
>

From dan at old-phonographs.com  Fri Aug 14 14:41:24 2009
From: dan at old-phonographs.com (Daniel Melvin)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:41:24 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
In-Reply-To: <SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.28.1250210879.336.phono-l@oldcrank.org>
	<SNT103-W3988D60B57B695E307F631D1020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <d14f697b0908141441q3a3779c3s9e4aa793543779b@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a link on tinfoi.com to a good lesson on packing and shipping
cylinders. It's kind of fun to watch and is good information.

http://tinfoil.com/outtakes.htm

Dan
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Thomas Edison <edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com
> wrote:

>
> I have not found a shure fire way yet, of shipping cylinders, I now try to
> by the eggs that come in a square with the 2 carton sides, and wrap my
> cylinder boxes in that and tape them up real good, then bubble wrap around
> that. The inside has bubble wrap between the 3 rows of blanks.  There is
> nothing as disheartning as sending out a dozen cylinders which all an all is
> 12 hours of work, and a month of setting.  I usually double the insuance on
> them so the customer can get there money back if they do arrive broken.  I
> much rather hand deliver them than ship them.  I sell them in storage boxes
> that have 12 tube pegs in them.  I  am a father raising children so I do not
> make as many anymore, and do not accept any orders, what I sell I make  when
> I can.    I estimated that in the New York adventure, I had almost
> $300,000.00 worth of material stolen from me.   Never been quite able to
> recover from that, I work for DHS making  $9.25/h does not leave much to do
> phonographs.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
>
> http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
>  _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>

From AllenAmet at aol.com  Fri Aug 14 15:07:36 2009
From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:07:36 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Model L?
Message-ID: <cbd.45976f0e.37b73a28@aol.com>

Hi,
 
  A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
any on eb*y at the moment.
 
Allen
 

From steve_noreen at msn.com  Fri Aug 14 16:27:16 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:27:16 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Model L?
In-Reply-To: <cbd.45976f0e.37b73a28@aol.com>
References: <cbd.45976f0e.37b73a28@aol.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W331F8E72F3FDB56991C472F6020@phx.gbl>


> Hi,
>  
>   A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
> an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
> any on eb*y at the moment.
>  
> Allen

$500 to $750 is the typical range.  These do not appear on eBay very often.  

From rich-mail at octoxol.com  Fri Aug 14 18:41:35 2009
From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Model L?
In-Reply-To: <COL118-W331F8E72F3FDB56991C472F6020@phx.gbl>
References: <cbd.45976f0e.37b73a28@aol.com>
	<COL118-W331F8E72F3FDB56991C472F6020@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A86124F.9000904@octoxol.com>

They are just expensive.....

Steven Medved wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  
>>   A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire  stylus) for 
>> an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these  days? I don't see 
>> any on eb*y at the moment.
>>  
>> Allen
> 
> $500 to $750 is the typical range.  These do not appear on eBay very often.  
> _______________________________________________
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> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> 

From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sat Aug 15 08:34:10 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:34:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <003601ca1ced$b44cf650$6601a8c0@thomaslaptop>
Message-ID: <947857.8533.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show for at least the past three or four years!
I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
John Robles

--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:


From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM


Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were interesting machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over the past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all this we heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!

Stan Stanford, President
Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society



----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


> For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has
> been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer)
> for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
> One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down
> here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
> show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots,
> and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
> range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's
> immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
> time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him
> crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
> The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a
> concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what
> volume!
> Mark your calendars for next August!
> 
> -Scott & Denise Corbett
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> 
> Any information of CAPS convention?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 

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From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 15 11:15:59 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:15:59 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <947857.8533.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <003601ca1ced$b44cf650$6601a8c0@thomaslaptop>
	<947857.8533.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com>

Hi John,
were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted to
tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan Reed
And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some stuff
-it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
Thx Abe Feder

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was
> a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked
> contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell
> with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show
> for at least the past three or four years!
> I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits
> on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I
> must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> John Robles
>
> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
>
>
> Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were interesting
> machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs
> and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott
> and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over the
> past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this we
> heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
>
> Stan Stanford, President
> Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show
> has
> > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> reproducer)
> > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
> > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get
> down
> > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
> > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> lots,
> > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
> > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> Hardy's
> > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
> > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching
> him
> > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
> > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard
> a
> > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> what
> > volume!
> > Mark your calendars for next August!
> >
> > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> >
> > Any information of CAPS convention?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sat Aug 15 20:55:43 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Abe
I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
I am sorry to have missed you!
John

--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM


Hi John,
were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted to
tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan Reed
And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some stuff
-it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
Thx Abe Feder

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was
> a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked
> contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell
> with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show
> for at least the past three or four years!
> I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits
> on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I
> must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> John Robles
>
> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
>
>
> Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were interesting
> machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs
> and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott
> and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over the
> past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all this we
> heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
>
> Stan Stanford, President
> Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show
> has
> > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> reproducer)
> > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale.
> > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get
> down
> > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the
> > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> lots,
> > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a
> > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> Hardy's
> > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult
> > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching
> him
> > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment.
> > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard
> a
> > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> what
> > volume!
> > Mark your calendars for next August!
> >
> > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> >
> > Any information of CAPS convention?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> >
>
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sun Aug 16 08:34:46 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:34:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Errata
Message-ID: <302970.23082.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It has come to my attention that I got my beautiful Victor M from Stan Stanford. I have no idea where I got the name Stan Spate......Sorry Stan!!
John Robles

From C5fan at aol.com  Sun Aug 16 10:24:39 2009
From: C5fan at aol.com (C5fan at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:24:39 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a grill for an early Amberola VI
Message-ID: <c6c.5391217f.37b99ad7@aol.com>

I recently purchased an early mahogany Amberola VI (serial number 4XX) and  
need the front wood grill. The dimensions are approximately 12 1/16' x 7 
3/4" (6  pillars according to Frow's Companion, page 201) and it looks like 
the grill on  eBay #390019351998. I would like an original if possible. Thanks
 

From phonolist at cylinder.de  Sun Aug 16 14:11:51 2009
From: phonolist at cylinder.de (Norman Bruderhofer)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:11:51 +0200
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>

Chris, These holes look indeed different than the ones I used to find 
sometimes on black wax cylinders. The usual holes are, to what I was to 
figure out, caused by the collapse of the wax surface when tiny bubbles 
are underneath it. You can see this sometimes on broken black wax 
cylinders, both 2-minute and 4-minutes.
The holes on your cylinder do not have an uncommon size though. It's 
just the large group of them what looks suspicious. A regular stylus 
should even be able to play over such an area, especially when you are 
using a Model B reproducer which has a bullet sapphire instead of the 
doorknob of a C.
As Steven pointed out, candle wax could actually do but it can be sticky 
and, as a worst case, can mess up your stylus that has to cleaned then. 
I had good success with filling comparable holes with modelling wax (for 
wood restoration) with a wooden toothpick. It takes a lot of time and 
you should have the cylinder on the mandrel to give it a better support 
while applying the wax.

Norman


Chris Kocsis wrote:
> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' 
> Everybody Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked. It was 
> advertised as in excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its 
> sleeve it looked like it was. But as I turned it to examine it 
> closely, I found a strange, almost patterned number of deep circular 
> pits among the grooves. I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus 
> catches in these holes and gets ripped out. I'm attaching a picture.
>
> I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these 
> holes could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've 
> never seen anything like them before).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
> -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
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> URL: 
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>
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From chrisk33 at cox.net  Sun Aug 16 15:32:12 2009
From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:32:12 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net> <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
Message-ID: <4A8888EC.9070504@cox.net>

Thanks, Norman, I will try that.  My 2-minute reproducer is a C.  I 
thought of bubbles too but not only is the size exactly the same of all 
the holes, but the sides of the holes are cylindrical, straight down, 
and they are of uniform depth.  A mystery.....

Chris

Norman Bruderhofer wrote:
> Chris, These holes look indeed different than the ones I used to find 
> sometimes on black wax cylinders. The usual holes are, to what I was 
> to figure out, caused by the collapse of the wax surface when tiny 
> bubbles are underneath it. You can see this sometimes on broken black 
> wax cylinders, both 2-minute and 4-minutes.
> The holes on your cylinder do not have an uncommon size though. It's 
> just the large group of them what looks suspicious. A regular stylus 
> should even be able to play over such an area, especially when you are 
> using a Model B reproducer which has a bullet sapphire instead of the 
> doorknob of a C.
> As Steven pointed out, candle wax could actually do but it can be 
> sticky and, as a worst case, can mess up your stylus that has to 
> cleaned then. I had good success with filling comparable holes with 
> modelling wax (for wood restoration) with a wooden toothpick. It takes 
> a lot of time and you should have the cylinder on the mandrel to give 
> it a better support while applying the wax.
>
> Norman
>
>
> Chris Kocsis wrote:
>> I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' 
>> Everybody Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked. It was 
>> advertised as in excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its 
>> sleeve it looked like it was. But as I turned it to examine it 
>> closely, I found a strange, almost patterned number of deep circular 
>> pits among the grooves. I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus 
>> catches in these holes and gets ripped out. I'm attaching a picture.
>>
>> I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these 
>> holes could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've 
>> never seen anything like them before).
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>> -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
>> **An Attachment Was Scrubbed**
>> Name: 9100 holes.jpg
>> Type: image/jpeg
>> Size: 52776 bytes
>> URL: 
>> <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg> 
>>
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>>
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Sun Aug 16 15:43:42 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:43:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] Need a 10" Monarch record
Message-ID: <759324.72321.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello all
Does anyone have a spare 10" Victor Monarch record they can part with? I would like to have one or two to go along with?new Victor Monarch.
Thanks!
John Robles

From steve_noreen at msn.com  Sun Aug 16 18:06:33 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:06:33 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net> <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
Message-ID: <COL118-W34891A579FD1F504820723F6010@phx.gbl>


Norman,

I appreciate your suggestion which was substantially better than mine. 

Styli should be cleaned on a regular basis, a soft toothbrush works nicely.  I have seen reproducers before where the stylus had actually disappeared underneath wax and debris.  

Steve
> 
> Chris, These holes look indeed different than the ones I used to find 
> sometimes on black wax cylinders. The usual holes are, to what I was to 
> figure out, caused by the collapse of the wax surface when tiny bubbles 
> are underneath it. You can see this sometimes on broken black wax 
> cylinders, both 2-minute and 4-minutes.
> The holes on your cylinder do not have an uncommon size though. It's 
> just the large group of them what looks suspicious. A regular stylus 
> should even be able to play over such an area, especially when you are 
> using a Model B reproducer which has a bullet sapphire instead of the 
> doorknob of a C.
> As Steven pointed out, candle wax could actually do but it can be sticky 
> and, as a worst case, can mess up your stylus that has to cleaned then. 
> I had good success with filling comparable holes with modelling wax (for 
> wood restoration) with a wooden toothpick. It takes a lot of time and 
> you should have the cylinder on the mandrel to give it a better support 
> while applying the wax.
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> Chris Kocsis wrote:
> > I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' 
> > Everybody Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked. It was 
> > advertised as in excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its 
> > sleeve it looked like it was. But as I turned it to examine it 
> > closely, I found a strange, almost patterned number of deep circular 
> > pits among the grooves. I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus 
> > catches in these holes and gets ripped out. I'm attaching a picture.
> >
> > I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these 
> > holes could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've 
> > never seen anything like them before).
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> > -------------- ATTACHMENT --------------
> > **An Attachment Was Scrubbed**
> > Name: 9100 holes.jpg
> > Type: image/jpeg
> > Size: 52776 bytes
> > URL: 
> > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg> 
> >
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> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> >
> >
> 
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From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 10:22:06 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com>
	<948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4e885f140908171022n46d7d2a0jf7fe2e8e387ffba@mail.gmail.com>

John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have to
work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a
really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
Thx sorry I missed you
Abe

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Hi Abe
> I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn
> (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he
> was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then
> Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and
> tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> I am sorry to have missed you!
> John
>
> --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
>
> Hi John,
> were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
> list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted
> to
> tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> Reed
> And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> stuff
> -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
> but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> Thx Abe Feder
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show
> was
> > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> marked
> > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> sell
> > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> show
> > for at least the past three or four years!
> > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now
> sits
> > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture,
> I
> > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > John Robles
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> >
> >
> > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> interesting
> > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs
> > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> Scott
> > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over
> the
> > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this
> we
> > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> >
> > Stan Stanford, President
> > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show
> > has
> > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > reproducer)
> > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> sale.
> > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get
> > down
> > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just
> the
> > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> > lots,
> > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented
> a
> > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> > Hardy's
> > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> difficult
> > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> watching
> > him
> > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> accompaniment.
> > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> heard
> > a
> > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> > what
> > > volume!
> > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > >
> > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > >
> > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 17 11:30:33 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:30:33 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <4e885f140908171022n46d7d2a0jf7fe2e8e387ffba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com><948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4e885f140908171022n46d7d2a0jf7fe2e8e387ffba@mail.gmail.com>
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Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have to
work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a
really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
Thx sorry I missed you
Abe

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Hi Abe
> I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn
> (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he
> was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then
> Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and
> tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> I am sorry to have missed you!
> John
>
> --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
>
> Hi John,
> were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
> list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted
> to
> tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> Reed
> And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> stuff
> -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
> but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> Thx Abe Feder
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show
> was
> > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> marked
> > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> sell
> > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> show
> > for at least the past three or four years!
> > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now
> sits
> > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture,
> I
> > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > John Robles
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> >
> >
> > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> interesting
> > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs
> > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> Scott
> > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over
> the
> > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this
> we
> > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> >
> > Stan Stanford, President
> > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show
> > has
> > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > reproducer)
> > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare
> > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> sale.
> > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I
> > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get
> > down
> > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just
> the
> > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> > lots,
> > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented
> a
> > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original
> > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were
> > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> > Hardy's
> > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> difficult
> > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> watching
> > him
> > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> accompaniment.
> > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> heard
> > a
> > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> > what
> > > volume!
> > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > >
> > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > >
> > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
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> >
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From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 11:52:30 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
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John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and while
I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
or email address.
Thx in advance
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> John
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
> cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> to
> work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a
> really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> Thx sorry I missed you
> Abe
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Abe
> > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> horn
> > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter,
> he
> > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then
> > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> and
> > tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > John
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
> > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted
> > to
> > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > Reed
> > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > stuff
> > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
> > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > Thx Abe Feder
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show
> > was
> > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > marked
> > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > sell
> > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > show
> > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now
> > sits
> > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> picture,
> > I
> > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > John Robles
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> > interesting
> > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> phonographs
> > > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > Scott
> > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over
> > the
> > > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> > > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this
> > we
> > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> > > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > >
> > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > >
> > >
> > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> show
> > > has
> > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > reproducer)
> > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> Rare
> > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > sale.
> > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each.
> I
> > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> get
> > > down
> > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just
> > the
> > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> > > lots,
> > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> presented
> > a
> > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> Original
> > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> were
> > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> > > Hardy's
> > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > difficult
> > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > watching
> > > him
> > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > accompaniment.
> > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > heard
> > > a
> > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> > > what
> > > > volume!
> > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > >
> > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > >
> > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 17 13:07:30 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:07:30 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
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I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it go!
Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and while
I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
or email address.
Thx in advance
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> John
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
> cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> to
> work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a
> really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> Thx sorry I missed you
> Abe
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Abe
> > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> horn
> > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter,
> he
> > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then
> > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> and
> > tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > John
> >
> > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers
> > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted
> > to
> > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > Reed
> > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > stuff
> > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell
> > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > Thx Abe Feder
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show
> > was
> > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > marked
> > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > sell
> > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > show
> > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass
> > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now
> > sits
> > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> picture,
> > I
> > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > John Robles
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> > interesting
> > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> phonographs
> > > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > Scott
> > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen over
> > the
> > > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the
> > > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the
> > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all this
> > we
> > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David
> > > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > >
> > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > >
> > >
> > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> show
> > > has
> > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > reproducer)
> > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> Rare
> > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > sale.
> > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each.
> I
> > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> get
> > > down
> > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just
> > the
> > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200
> > > lots,
> > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> presented
> > a
> > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> Original
> > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> were
> > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel &
> > > Hardy's
> > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > difficult
> > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > watching
> > > him
> > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > accompaniment.
> > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > heard
> > > a
> > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow,
> > > what
> > > > volume!
> > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > >
> > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > >
> > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> >
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From pjfraser at alamedanet.net  Mon Aug 17 13:28:44 2009
From: pjfraser at alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:28:44 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] amberola v
In-Reply-To: <1322899982-1250539620-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-733071772-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com><948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4e885f140908171022n46d7d2a0jf7fe2e8e387ffba@mail.gmail.com><1116314968-1250533803-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-16901384-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><4e885f140908171152g37a51001qac49e6762c8371ce@mail.gmail.com>
	<1322899982-1250539620-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-733071772-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <18081802-ED06-431C-A555-6027D16291C1@alamedanet.net>

i have one, completely disassembled, if you'd like a project - for a  
cheap price or fun trade...

-- peter
pjfraser at alamedanet.net


On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, john9ten at pacbell.net wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have  
> let it go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables  
> usually..I think he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his  
> name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma  
> leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000  
> and while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would  
> still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his  
> phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
>> John
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
>> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>
>>
>> John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
>> cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I  
>> will have
>> to
>> work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am  
>> looking for a
>> really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is  
>> selling
>> one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
>> Thx sorry I missed you
>> Abe
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Abe
>>> I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the  
>>> snack
>>> bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the  
>>> smooth oak
>> horn
>>> (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike  
>>> Sorter,
>> he
>>> was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two  
>>> tables, then
>>> Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the  
>>> chairs
>> and
>>> tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
>>> I am sorry to have missed you!
>>> John
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the  
>>> dealers
>>> list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I  
>>> wanted
>>> to
>>> tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up  
>>> with Dan
>>> Reed
>>> And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold  
>>> some
>>> stuff
>>> -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot  
>>> to sell
>>> but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
>>> Thx Abe Feder
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's  
>>>> show
>>> was
>>>> a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was  
>>>> in
>>> marked
>>>> contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy  
>>>> who I
>>> sell
>>>> with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to  
>>>> the
>>> show
>>>> for at least the past three or four years!
>>>> I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with  
>>>> brass
>>>> belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price.  
>>>> It now
>>> sits
>>>> on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
>> picture,
>>> I
>>>> must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
>>>> John Robles
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
>>> interesting
>>>> machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
>> phonographs
>>>> and many related small items.    The entertainment for the  
>>>> Banquet as
>>> Scott
>>>> and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have  
>>>> seen over
>>> the
>>>> past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows  
>>>> running the
>>>> projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing,  
>>>> and the
>>>> pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to  
>>>> all this
>>> we
>>>> heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to  
>>>> David
>>>> Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
>>>>
>>>> Stan Stanford, President
>>>> Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
>>>> sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
>>>>> California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
>> show
>>>> has
>>>>> been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
>>>> reproducer)
>>>>> for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
>> Rare
>>>>> machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also  
>>>>> for
>>> sale.
>>>>> One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00  
>>>>> each.
>> I
>>>>> overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need  
>>>>> to
>> get
>>>> down
>>>>> here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was  
>>>>> just
>>> the
>>>>> show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction  
>>>>> with 200
>>>> lots,
>>>>> and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
>> presented
>>> a
>>>>> range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
>> Original
>>>>> glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
>> were
>>>>> changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and  
>>>>> Laurel &
>>>> Hardy's
>>>>> immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
>>> difficult
>>>>> time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
>>> watching
>>>> him
>>>>> crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
>>> accompaniment.
>>>>> The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus,  
>>>>> we
>>> heard
>>>> a
>>>>> concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.  
>>>>> Wow,
>>>> what
>>>>> volume!
>>>>> Mark your calendars for next August!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Scott & Denise Corbett
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
>>> phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
>>>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information of CAPS convention?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com  Mon Aug 17 13:41:58 2009
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:41:58 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Original Paper Mache Nipper 14" For Sale?
Message-ID: <c65.521c7539.37bb1a96@wmconnect.com>

Does anyone have an original paper mache Nipper 14" for sale?  I'd love to 
suprise my wife for her birthday.  If possible, a nice presentable one would 
be great.  Thanks.

Brantley


From bruce78rpm at comcast.net  Mon Aug 17 13:47:38 2009
From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:47:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Phono-L] amberola v
In-Reply-To: <18081802-ED06-431C-A555-6027D16291C1@alamedanet.net>
Message-ID: <1794475029.8991381250542058398.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I finally acquired one at a local auction a year ago for short money, and would never part with it. I just love the unique mechanical qualities which no other table models possess, also it was the only table model that features an automatic stop. A friend and fellow member of Mocaps, just acquired one, and it is by far the most perfect original V in Mahogany we have seen as yet. We will have some photos of it, I'm sure after our next meeting in Sept. which we will send to ITG for publication. 

Bruce 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfraser at alamedanet.net> 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:28:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [Phono-L] amberola v 

i have one, completely disassembled, if you'd like a project - for a 
cheap price or fun trade... 

-- peter 
pjfraser at alamedanet.net 


On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, john9ten at pacbell.net wrote: 

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have 
> let it go! 
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables 
> usually..I think he was to the right of Jerry Blais. 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show 
> 
> 
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his 
> name-I 
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma 
> leather 
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 
> and while 
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would 
> still 
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his 
> phone# 
> or email address. 
> Thx in advance 
> Abe 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote: 
> 
>> Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! 
>> John 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> 
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show 
>> 
>> 
>> John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought 
>> cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I 
>> will have 
>> to 
>> work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am 
>> looking for a 
>> really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is 
>> selling 
>> one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. 
>> Thx sorry I missed you 
>> Abe 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Hi Abe 
>>> I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the 
>>> snack 
>>> bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the 
>>> smooth oak 
>> horn 
>>> (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike 
>>> Sorter, 
>> he 
>>> was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two 
>>> tables, then 
>>> Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the 
>>> chairs 
>> and 
>>> tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? 
>>> I am sorry to have missed you! 
>>> John 
>>> 
>>> --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show 
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
>>> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi John, 
>>> were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the 
>>> dealers 
>>> list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I 
>>> wanted 
>>> to 
>>> tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up 
>>> with Dan 
>>> Reed 
>>> And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold 
>>> some 
>>> stuff 
>>> -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot 
>>> to sell 
>>> but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. 
>>> Thx Abe Feder 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> 
>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's 
>>>> show 
>>> was 
>>>> a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was 
>>>> in 
>>> marked 
>>>> contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy 
>>>> who I 
>>> sell 
>>>> with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to 
>>>> the 
>>> show 
>>>> for at least the past three or four years! 
>>>> I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with 
>>>> brass 
>>>> belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. 
>>>> It now 
>>> sits 
>>>> on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty 
>> picture, 
>>> I 
>>>> must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. 
>>>> John Robles 
>>>> 
>>>> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show 
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
>>>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were 
>>> interesting 
>>>> machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 
>> phonographs 
>>>> and many related small items. The entertainment for the 
>>>> Banquet as 
>>> Scott 
>>>> and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have 
>>>> seen over 
>>> the 
>>>> past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows 
>>>> running the 
>>>> projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, 
>>>> and the 
>>>> pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to 
>>>> all this 
>>> we 
>>>> heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to 
>>>> David 
>>>> Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! 
>>>> 
>>>> Stan Stanford, President 
>>>> Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" < 
>>>> sdcorbett at earthlink.net> 
>>>> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern 
>>>>> California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the 
>> show 
>>>> has 
>>>>> been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus 
>>>> reproducer) 
>>>>> for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. 
>> Rare 
>>>>> machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also 
>>>>> for 
>>> sale. 
>>>>> One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 
>>>>> each. 
>> I 
>>>>> overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need 
>>>>> to 
>> get 
>>>> down 
>>>>> here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was 
>>>>> just 
>>> the 
>>>>> show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction 
>>>>> with 200 
>>>> lots, 
>>>>> and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo 
>> presented 
>>> a 
>>>>> range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. 
>> Original 
>>>>> glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels 
>> were 
>>>>> changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and 
>>>>> Laurel & 
>>>> Hardy's 
>>>>> immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a 
>>> difficult 
>>>>> time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or 
>>> watching 
>>>> him 
>>>>> crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano 
>>> accompaniment. 
>>>>> The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, 
>>>>> we 
>>> heard 
>>>> a 
>>>>> concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. 
>>>>> Wow, 
>>>> what 
>>>>> volume! 
>>>>> Mark your calendars for next August! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Scott & Denise Corbett 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto: 
>>> phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
>>>> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM 
>>>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any information of CAPS convention? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>>>> Phono-L mailing list 
>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________ 
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 17 13:56:58 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:56:58 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] amberola v
In-Reply-To: <18081802-ED06-431C-A555-6027D16291C1@alamedanet.net>
References: <4e885f140908151115u48f61faxdd4d0aae06c74688@mail.gmail.com><948162.18114.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4e885f140908171022n46d7d2a0jf7fe2e8e387ffba@mail.gmail.com><1116314968-1250533803-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-16901384-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><4e885f140908171152g37a51001qac49e6762c8371ce@mail.gmail.com><1322899982-1250539620-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-733071772-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><18081802-ED06-431C-A555-6027D16291C1@alamedanet.net>
Message-ID: <429573571-1250542589-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1786569514-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Let's talk offline....I smell a deal...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Fraser <pjfraser at alamedanet.net>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:28:44 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] amberola v


i have one, completely disassembled, if you'd like a project - for a  
cheap price or fun trade...

-- peter
pjfraser at alamedanet.net


On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, john9ten at pacbell.net wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have  
> let it go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables  
> usually..I think he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his  
> name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma  
> leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000  
> and while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would  
> still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his  
> phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
>> John
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
>> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>
>>
>> John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
>> cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I  
>> will have
>> to
>> work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am  
>> looking for a
>> really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is  
>> selling
>> one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
>> Thx sorry I missed you
>> Abe
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Abe
>>> I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the  
>>> snack
>>> bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the  
>>> smooth oak
>> horn
>>> (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike  
>>> Sorter,
>> he
>>> was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two  
>>> tables, then
>>> Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the  
>>> chairs
>> and
>>> tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
>>> I am sorry to have missed you!
>>> John
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the  
>>> dealers
>>> list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I  
>>> wanted
>>> to
>>> tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up  
>>> with Dan
>>> Reed
>>> And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold  
>>> some
>>> stuff
>>> -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot  
>>> to sell
>>> but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
>>> Thx Abe Feder
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's  
>>>> show
>>> was
>>>> a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was  
>>>> in
>>> marked
>>>> contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy  
>>>> who I
>>> sell
>>>> with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to  
>>>> the
>>> show
>>>> for at least the past three or four years!
>>>> I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with  
>>>> brass
>>>> belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price.  
>>>> It now
>>> sits
>>>> on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
>> picture,
>>> I
>>>> must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
>>>> John Robles
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
>>> interesting
>>>> machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
>> phonographs
>>>> and many related small items.    The entertainment for the  
>>>> Banquet as
>>> Scott
>>>> and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have  
>>>> seen over
>>> the
>>>> past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows  
>>>> running the
>>>> projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing,  
>>>> and the
>>>> pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to  
>>>> all this
>>> we
>>>> heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to  
>>>> David
>>>> Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
>>>>
>>>> Stan Stanford, President
>>>> Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
>>>> sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
>>>>> California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
>> show
>>>> has
>>>>> been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
>>>> reproducer)
>>>>> for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
>> Rare
>>>>> machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also  
>>>>> for
>>> sale.
>>>>> One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00  
>>>>> each.
>> I
>>>>> overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need  
>>>>> to
>> get
>>>> down
>>>>> here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was  
>>>>> just
>>> the
>>>>> show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction  
>>>>> with 200
>>>> lots,
>>>>> and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
>> presented
>>> a
>>>>> range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
>> Original
>>>>> glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
>> were
>>>>> changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and  
>>>>> Laurel &
>>>> Hardy's
>>>>> immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
>>> difficult
>>>>> time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
>>> watching
>>>> him
>>>>> crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
>>> accompaniment.
>>>>> The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus,  
>>>>> we
>>> heard
>>>> a
>>>>> concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.  
>>>>> Wow,
>>>> what
>>>>> volume!
>>>>> Mark your calendars for next August!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Scott & Denise Corbett
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
>>> phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
>>>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
>>>>>
>>>>> Any information of CAPS convention?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>>>
>>>>
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From abefeder1 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 17 14:08:00 2009
From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
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I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Phono-L mailing list
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> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 17 14:21:24 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:21:24 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
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Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-   I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).  Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.   There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.    The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.   Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.   The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.  In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.   Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > _______________________________________________
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From maxbud12 at wowway.com  Mon Aug 17 15:29:56 2009
From: maxbud12 at wowway.com (Bruce Mercer)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net> <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
	<4A8888EC.9070504@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AB047EC5F9A64A8E932EFA5DC16A4B52@VAIO>

I saved the photo to My Pictures and looked at it extremely blown up. There 
is a dimple in the bottom of each hole. It looks like it was done with heat 
and ???
If they were bubbles I don't think the perimeter would be that perfect or 
have that mark in the bottom of each hole. One hole appears to be 
'starting'. They look like BB holes until you look closely and see the 
dimple in the bottom. You can see a stylus drop above one of them.
Bruce and my .02 


From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com  Mon Aug 17 16:56:43 2009
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
Message-ID: <cce.562f738f.37bb483b@wmconnect.com>

Wow, friends!  Take a look at this beauty.  It's bargain priced.  It states 
in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect the 
playability or beauty."  At this price, one can stand a part or two missing 
I'm sure!

Ebay item number 180396054703   

PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of 
Diamond Discs!

Brantley

From chrisk33 at cox.net  Mon Aug 17 17:42:06 2009
From: chrisk33 at cox.net (Chris Kocsis)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:42:06 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
In-Reply-To: <AB047EC5F9A64A8E932EFA5DC16A4B52@VAIO>
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net>
	<4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>	<4A8888EC.9070504@cox.net>
	<AB047EC5F9A64A8E932EFA5DC16A4B52@VAIO>
Message-ID: <4A89F8DE.6020800@cox.net>

Hot stylus drops with a C reproducer on a day that would fry eggs on the 
sidewalk?

Chris

Bruce Mercer wrote:
> I saved the photo to My Pictures and looked at it extremely blown up. 
> There is a dimple in the bottom of each hole. It looks like it was 
> done with heat and ???
> If they were bubbles I don't think the perimeter would be that perfect 
> or have that mark in the bottom of each hole. One hole appears to be 
> 'starting'. They look like BB holes until you look closely and see the 
> dimple in the bottom. You can see a stylus drop above one of them.
> Bruce and my .02
> _______________________________________________
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>

From edisone1 at verizon.net  Mon Aug 17 16:41:46 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:41:46 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface
References: <4A835FEB.3080503@cox.net> <4A887617.3090601@cylinder.de>
	<4A8888EC.9070504@cox.net> <AB047EC5F9A64A8E932EFA5DC16A4B52@VAIO>
Message-ID: <593C5225DA994E1895EB15DF0FBC9A3D@moms>

Good eye!  Now that I've blown up the pics, the holes might be from tiny 
drill bits - there seem to be 2 sizes -  so, maybe it was somebody fooling 
with a Dremel or similar tool


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12 at wowway.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface


>I saved the photo to My Pictures and looked at it extremely blown up. There 
>is a dimple in the bottom of each hole. It looks like it was done with heat 
>and ???
> If they were bubbles I don't think the perimeter would be that perfect or 
> have that mark in the bottom of each hole. One hole appears to be 
> 'starting'. They look like BB holes until you look closely and see the 
> dimple in the bottom. You can see a stylus drop above one of them.
> Bruce and my .02


From steve_noreen at msn.com  Mon Aug 17 18:01:58 2009
From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
In-Reply-To: <cce.562f738f.37bb483b@wmconnect.com>
References: <cce.562f738f.37bb483b@wmconnect.com>
Message-ID: <COL118-W1191A158E8FE151B362D36F6FF0@phx.gbl>


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at $174.99.

 
ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE:  "INDIANA MOON" & "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
> 
> Wow, friends!  Take a look at this beauty.  It's bargain priced.  It states 
> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect the 
> playability or beauty."  At this price, one can stand a part or two missing 
> I'm sure!
> 
> Ebay item number 180396054703   
> 
> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of 
> Diamond Discs!
> 
> Brantley
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

From harveykravitz at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 17 18:33:20 2009
From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <1277583930-1250544055-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1633188692-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <965086.4936.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Phono-L mailing list
> > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
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From loran at oldcrank.com  Mon Aug 17 18:38:17 2009
From: loran at oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:38:17 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Vic R Parts
Message-ID: <00B8DB69-EAE8-4FF0-9F20-4E9FF28C7299@oldcrank.com>

Anybody out there making repro traveling arms for the Vic R? Longshot  
here... how about a motor & turntable for a Vic R?

Thanks,
Loran

From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 17 19:14:14 2009
From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (William Buchanan)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:14:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
Message-ID: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he responded with

?"We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at $250-375 depending the song."

Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.

Bill Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at $174.99.

 
ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE:? "INDIANA MOON" & "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
> 
> Wow, friends!? Take a look at this beauty.? It's bargain priced.? It states 
> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect the 
> playability or beauty."? At this price, one can stand a part or two missing 
> I'm sure!
> 
> Ebay item number 180396054703???
> 
> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of 
> Diamond Discs!
> 
> Brantley
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
_______________________________________________
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http://phono-l.oldcrank.org



      

From loran at oldcrank.com  Mon Aug 17 19:25:38 2009
From: loran at oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:25:38 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
In-Reply-To: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <437A097D-D98B-4DE5-8E32-837BED5FFB6B@oldcrank.com>

This is my favorite part:

THE FRONT WOODEN DECORATIVE SCROLLING HAS BROKEN OFF DUE TO AGE DOES  
NOT AFFECT PLAYABILTY OR BEAUTY.

I bought one of these a few years back for the parts. Don't think I  
paid much more than $50.

Loran


On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:14 PM, William Buchanan wrote:

> I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he  
> responded with
>
>  "We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're  
> appraised at $250-375 depending the song."
>
> Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
> He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.
>
> Bill Buchanan
>


From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com  Mon Aug 17 19:22:17 2009
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:22:17 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
Message-ID: <cee.61186981.37bb6a59@wmconnect.com>

Steve,

All I can say is that they are mighty proud of their Edisons!  It reminds 
me of a local antique shop in Aiken, S.C.  Just last week, an Edison 30 
without the grill went for a whopping $875.00.  I guess the buyer thought he got 
a real bargain since $1850.00 was the original asking price, but marked 
through with $875.00 on the price tag.  I just participated in a local museum 
Collector's Day by displaying about five of my machines.  I got a lot of oohs 
and ahhs.  The one thing that I encouraged future collectors to do is to 
join a group or club.  This will help provide the knowledge to help keep from 
paying too much or getting ripped off.  

Most people don't have a clue and just buy on impulse.  Take care all and 
help me find a Nipper please.  Thanks ever so much.

Brantley

From bubba2u at optonline.net  Mon Aug 17 19:30:52 2009
From: bubba2u at optonline.net (Alan Wohl)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:30:52 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
References: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6@Daisy>

I wrote him when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he was 
spending more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.  He told me that 
he had sold six also.  I think the tooth fairy bought them.  What really 
bothers me about nuts like this is that their insanity has a tendency to 
spread.  I haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I don't know 
how long. If people like this ask crazy prices over and over again it soon 
becomes the norm.



\\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!


I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he responded 
with

"We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at 
$250-375 depending the song."

Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.

Bill Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at 
$174.99.


ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA MOON" 
& "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>
> Wow, friends! Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect the
> playability or beauty." At this price, one can stand a part or two missing
> I'm sure!
>
> Ebay item number 180396054703
>
> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
> Diamond Discs!
>
> Brantley
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From donlk at webtv.net  Mon Aug 17 20:56:26 2009
From: donlk at webtv.net (Gridleak)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:56:26 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Need some parts for a Columbia BKT
In-Reply-To: phono-l-request@oldcrank.org's message of Mon, 17 Aug 2009
	18:33:30 -0700
Message-ID: <2591-4A8A266A-3996@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>

I need the feed nut for a BKT its a trigger shaped piece. A Bk may use
the same nut.
This machine has the 4/2 feed screw and came with a couple of extra
gears that I believe are part of the 4 min gearing. The extra pieces are
a large gear the same size as on the feed screw but thinner and a
triangular piece of metal that has a small gear riveted on it, there is
a hole in the piece that shows signs of having another gear riveted on
but is missing .
I have the machine operating in the 2 min mode (sans a good feed nut)
but would like to know if I have all the right parts and how these gears
are configured for 4 min operation.
 Thanks    

DON
AC7PD




















From john9ten at pacbell.net  Mon Aug 17 22:31:05 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:31:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <965086.4936.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <202344.58677.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show!
John Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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From jeffryy at prevea.com  Tue Aug 18 06:36:44 2009
From: jeffryy at prevea.com (Jeffry Young, D.O.)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:36:44 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Original Paper Mache Nipper 14" For Sale?
In-Reply-To: <c65.521c7539.37bb1a96@wmconnect.com>
References: <c65.521c7539.37bb1a96@wmconnect.com>
Message-ID: <6C7EA97CA5292848B80F204F38A737520EDA0626@mercury.prevea.com>

You may want to contact Joan Rolf at nipper at dataex.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:42 PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Original Paper Mache Nipper 14" For Sale?

Does anyone have an original paper mache Nipper 14" for sale?  I'd love
to 
suprise my wife for her birthday.  If possible, a nice presentable one
would 
be great.  Thanks.

Brantley

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From lherault at bu.edu  Tue Aug 18 06:42:20 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:42:20 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
In-Reply-To: <F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6@Daisy>
References: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6@Daisy>
Message-ID: <002001ca2009$b54fa290$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>

It is possible he got good money for some of his DDs.  He's got Christmas
records there, I think I saw and these go a bit high.  Maybe one was LUNF
which usually goes for more than $100.   We don't know if they were 52000
series, right?

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Wohl
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!

I wrote him when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he was 
spending more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.  He told me that

he had sold six also.  I think the tooth fairy bought them.  What really 
bothers me about nuts like this is that their insanity has a tendency to 
spread.  I haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I don't know

how long. If people like this ask crazy prices over and over again it soon 
becomes the norm.



\\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!


I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he responded

with

"We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at 
$250-375 depending the song."

Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.

Bill Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at 
$174.99.


ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA MOON"

& "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>
> Wow, friends! Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect the
> playability or beauty." At this price, one can stand a part or two missing
> I'm sure!
>
> Ebay item number 180396054703
>
> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
> Diamond Discs!
>
> Brantley
> _______________________________________________
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From andy at popyrus.com  Tue Aug 18 06:31:48 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:31:48 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
Message-ID: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com>

Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.  Any  
thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

From esroberto at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 18 07:11:22 2009
From: esroberto at hotmail.com (Robert Wright)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:11:22 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
References: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com>
Message-ID: <BLU105-DAV615B079B77FF5CAEE4794AAFF0@phx.gbl>

I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a label with 
plenty of employees.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?


> Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.  Any 
> thoughts?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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From lherault at bu.edu  Tue Aug 18 07:41:12 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:41:12 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
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It's kinda cute, though.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?

Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.  Any  
thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQi
temZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_t
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From andy at popyrus.com  Tue Aug 18 07:46:25 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:46:25 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
In-Reply-To: <BLU105-DAV615B079B77FF5CAEE4794AAFF0@phx.gbl>
References: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com>
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So, it sounds like a genuine RCA corporate article.  Do you have any  
idea when these were made?

Andy


On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

> I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a  
> label with plenty of employees.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
>
>
>> Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.   
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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From esroberto at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 18 08:54:33 2009
From: esroberto at hotmail.com (Robert Wright)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:54:33 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
References: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com><BLU105-DAV615B079B77FF5CAEE4794AAFF0@phx.gbl>
	<C7296056-DF61-4414-BF3C-9D9AF1890AA0@popyrus.com>
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Looking at the amount of marbles this guy has for sale, I think I may 
retract my initial assertion it's genuine.  I have seen plenty of RCA marble 
sets that I know came from RCA here in town...  None of them this big, 
however.  I know they made them through the 80's (or so I've been told by 
ex-RCA employees).  I've only seen the kind that look like these, however:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-LOGO-MARBLES-5-8-SIZE_W0QQitemZ280386290833QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item4148534491&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?


> So, it sounds like a genuine RCA corporate article.  Do you have any  idea 
> when these were made?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
>
>> I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a  label 
>> with plenty of employees.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
>>
>>
>>> Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.   Any 
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>>> _______________________________________________
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From andy at popyrus.com  Tue Aug 18 08:58:30 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:58:30 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
In-Reply-To: <BLU105-DAV585361B608AA497BF64A2AAFF0@phx.gbl>
References: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com><BLU105-DAV615B079B77FF5CAEE4794AAFF0@phx.gbl>
	<C7296056-DF61-4414-BF3C-9D9AF1890AA0@popyrus.com>
	<BLU105-DAV585361B608AA497BF64A2AAFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1DAD7541-E4D2-4DFD-B80F-6A9374ABE6E1@popyrus.com>

Thanks for the update and link.  Perhaps some of the Nipper collectors  
on this list can advise?  I'm not a nipper collector.  A collector  
friend sent me the original eBay link and wanted to know what I  
thought.  I told him it might be a fake, but would inquire.

Best,
Andy

On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Robert Wright wrote:

> Looking at the amount of marbles this guy has for sale, I think I  
> may retract my initial assertion it's genuine.  I have seen plenty  
> of RCA marble sets that I know came from RCA here in town...  None  
> of them this big, however.  I know they made them through the 80's  
> (or so I've been told by ex-RCA employees).  I've only seen the kind  
> that look like these, however:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-LOGO-MARBLES-5-8-SIZE_W0QQitemZ280386290833QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item4148534491&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
>
>
>> So, it sounds like a genuine RCA corporate article.  Do you have  
>> any  idea when these were made?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a   
>>> label with plenty of employees.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this  
>>>> one.   Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>>>> _______________________________________________
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From bubba2u at optonline.net  Tue Aug 18 09:11:13 2009
From: bubba2u at optonline.net (Alan Wohl)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:11:13 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
References: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6@Daisy>
	<002001ca2009$b54fa290$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
Message-ID: <1A17DBAF1A4C4241A84B3521B9656C48@Daisy>

Ron,

I don't want to dwell on the subject but none of his records have yet to go 
off.  The first one ends tomorrow.  Maybe he had the "Greetings" record that 
he sold privately but I doubt it.  I collect other things and guys like this 
are all over ebay and Craigs list.  I've given up trying to set them 
straight.  It's not my job and all you get out of it is aggravation.

AL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!


> It is possible he got good money for some of his DDs.  He's got Christmas
> records there, I think I saw and these go a bit high.  Maybe one was LUNF
> which usually goes for more than $100.   We don't know if they were 52000
> series, right?
>
> Ron L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Alan Wohl
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
>
> I wrote him when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he was
> spending more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.  He told me 
> that
>
> he had sold six also.  I think the tooth fairy bought them.  What really
> bothers me about nuts like this is that their insanity has a tendency to
> spread.  I haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I don't 
> know
>
> how long. If people like this ask crazy prices over and over again it soon
> becomes the norm.
>
>
>
> \\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>
>
> I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he 
> responded
>
> with
>
> "We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at
> $250-375 depending the song."
>
> Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
> He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.
>
> Bill Buchanan
>
>
>
> -- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
>
> From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
> To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM
>
>
> Brantley,
>
> You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at
> $174.99.
>
>
> ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA 
> MOON"
>
> & "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m
>
>> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>>
>> Wow, friends! Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
>> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not affect 
>> the
>> playability or beauty." At this price, one can stand a part or two 
>> missing
>> I'm sure!
>>
>> Ebay item number 180396054703
>>
>> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
>> Diamond Discs!
>>
>> Brantley
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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>
>
>
>
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From rich-mail at octoxol.com  Tue Aug 18 09:45:32 2009
From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:45:32 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
In-Reply-To: <1A17DBAF1A4C4241A84B3521B9656C48@Daisy>
References: <658485.76085.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6@Daisy>	<002001ca2009$b54fa290$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
	<1A17DBAF1A4C4241A84B3521B9656C48@Daisy>
Message-ID: <4A8ADAAC.2060605@octoxol.com>

They are the electronic equivalent of the Buy Here-Pay Here used car 
dealer.  Just ignore them.  There are way too many buyers out there who 
will buy the junk and they know it.

Almost like the Payday Loan Places.



Alan Wohl wrote:
> Ron,
> 
> I don't want to dwell on the subject but none of his records have yet to 
> go off.  The first one ends tomorrow.  Maybe he had the "Greetings" 
> record that he sold privately but I doubt it.  I collect other things 
> and guys like this are all over ebay and Craigs list.  I've given up 
> trying to set them straight.  It's not my job and all you get out of it 
> is aggravation.
> 
> AL
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
> 
> 
>> It is possible he got good money for some of his DDs.  He's got Christmas
>> records there, I think I saw and these go a bit high.  Maybe one was LUNF
>> which usually goes for more than $100.   We don't know if they were 52000
>> series, right?
>>
>> Ron L
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org 
>> [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
>> Behalf Of Alan Wohl
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
>> To: Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
>>
>> I wrote him when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he was
>> spending more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.  He told 
>> me that
>>
>> he had sold six also.  I think the tooth fairy bought them.  What really
>> bothers me about nuts like this is that their insanity has a tendency to
>> spread.  I haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I 
>> don't know
>>
>> how long. If people like this ask crazy prices over and over again it 
>> soon
>> becomes the norm.
>>
>>
>>
>> \\\\\----- Original Message ----- From: "William Buchanan" 
>> <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>>
>>
>> I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price and he 
>> responded
>>
>> with
>>
>> "We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at
>> $250-375 depending the song."
>>
>> Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
>> He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.
>>
>> Bill Buchanan
>>
>>
>>
>> -- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>> To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM
>>
>>
>> Brantley,
>>
>> You missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at
>> $174.99.
>>
>>
>> ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA 
>> MOON"
>>
>> & "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m
>>
>>> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>>>
>>> Wow, friends! Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
>>> in the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not 
>>> affect the
>>> playability or beauty." At this price, one can stand a part or two 
>>> missing
>>> I'm sure!
>>>
>>> Ebay item number 180396054703
>>>
>>> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
>>> Diamond Discs!
>>>
>>> Brantley
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing list
>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From harveykravitz at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 18 10:46:46 2009
From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <202344.58677.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <832907.81451.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi John, We sure did speak. You were going to email me a copy of an Edison Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and conversed with you in the past. I was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. It's a nice machine I had a great time. Harvey P. Kravitz

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show!
John Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
> > > > >
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From john9ten at pacbell.net  Tue Aug 18 12:12:26 2009
From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten at pacbell.net)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:12:26 +0000
Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
In-Reply-To: <832907.81451.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <202344.58677.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com><832907.81451.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1812991706-1250622714-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1479624462-@bxe1231.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Oh, thanks for reminding me!!! I need to make one for myself too.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:46:46 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


Hi John, We sure did speak. You were going to email me a copy of an Edison Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and conversed with you in the past. I was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. It's a nice machine I had a great time. Harvey P. Kravitz

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show!
John Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to
do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think
> he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone#
> or email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> > John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have
> > to
> > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak
> > horn
> > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
> Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs
> > and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > > I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
> wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan
> > > Reed
> > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > > Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in
> > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I
> > > sell
> > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the
> > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > > sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> > phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The entertainment for the Banquet as
> > > Scott
> > > > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12 years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> > > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing, and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
> David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford, President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" <
> > > > sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the
> > show
> > > > has
> > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> > Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for
> > > sale.
> > > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
> each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to
> > get
> > > > down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
> 200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> > presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
> > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel
> &
> > > > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
> > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > > accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we
> > > heard
> > > > a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > > > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > > phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > > > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > > >
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From nipper at dataex.com  Tue Aug 18 18:09:37 2009
From: nipper at dataex.com (Robin Rolfs)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:09:37 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
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	<002b01ca2011$ee918ed0$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
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Greeting Phonolisters,

You are correct, executives would probably not approve the marble on E-bay
with the Nipper and gramophone trademark.  In our book "Nipper
Collectibles," we wrote eight pages on the Nipper logo, it's history and
changes.  Our last page we titled, "Is That All There is, Nipper?"

You see, recently Nipper's pedigree has become rather convoluted and
fragmented.  Once the world's most recognizable trademark, Nipper can now
only appear in the country of origin. Because of territorial licensing, he
can no longer  be used as a tool in global marketing and identification of a
product.  Therefore, because Nipper is not a trademark in the USA, nobody
cares if the trademark is used.

The marble is a new Nipper collectible.  As long as the trademark sells, we
are sure there will be many more new Nipper logo items on the market.
Chapter 6 of our Nipper Collectibles book is titled, "Nipper Reproductions,
Friend or Faux."  We discuss reproduction and fantasy items that should be
marketed as nostalgic Nipper collectibles.  Because of the amount of new
Nipper collectibles we are planning a future update to our book in another
three years.  Of course we feel the new items should be marked as
reproductions or new, however, it is also nice to know that the Nipper logo
is still a popular collectible.
Visit our website at:
www.audioantique.com

Robin & Joan Rolfs


From RROCRREC at aol.com  Tue Aug 18 22:49:21 2009
From: RROCRREC at aol.com (RROCRREC at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:49:21 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 154
Message-ID: <d02.5f31c822.37bcec61@aol.com>

Friends of this great hobby:
 
Please forgive me for asking about the CAPS show in my inquire of weeks  
ago.  My simple email has generated well over one hundred pages of replies  
over and over. I would be willing to contribute donations to the site to 
figure  out how to make all the old mail simply be removed after the first 
publication.  Last night I printed 65 pages of the last two days of postings and 
almost  all ended with my simple posting, "how was the CAPS meet". I must 
have  read the same mail how someone missed someone else 25 times. I know I 
will get  all kinds of negative feedback on this but I am ready (and already 
did so  several months ago) contribute money to provide funding to our editor 
to improve  the venue There has to be a way. Don't kill the messenger a 
collector for over  50 years. No hiding here, Larry Hawes
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2009 12:15:42 Pacific Daylight Time,  
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Today's  Topics:

1. Vic R Parts (Loran Hughes)
2.  Re: What A Beauty On Ebay! (William Buchanan)
3. Re: What A  Beauty On Ebay! (Loran Hughes)
4. Re: What A Beauty On Ebay!  (Kuglarb at wmconnect.com)
5. Nuts on Ebay! (Alan  Wohl)
6. Need some parts for a Columbia BKT  (Gridleak)
7. Re: CAPS phonograph show (john  robles)
8. Re: Original Paper Mache Nipper 14" For Sale?  (Jeffry Young, D.O.)
9. Re: Nuts on Ebay! (Ron  L'Herault)
10. Fake RCA ad piece? (Andrew Baron)
11. Re:  Fake RCA ad piece? (Robert Wright)
12. Re: Fake RCA ad piece? (Ron  L'Herault)
13. Re: Fake RCA ad piece? (Andrew Baron)
14.  Re: Fake RCA ad piece? (Robert Wright)
15. Re: Fake RCA ad piece?  (Andrew Baron)
16. Re: Nuts on Ebay! (Alan Wohl)
17. Re:  Nuts on Ebay! (Rich)
18. Re: CAPS phonograph show (harvey  kravitz)
19. Re: CAPS phonograph show  (john9ten at pacbell.net)


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Message:  1
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:38:17 -0700
From: Loran Hughes  <loran at oldcrank.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Vic R Parts
Message-ID:  <00B8DB69-EAE8-4FF0-9F20-4E9FF28C7299 at oldcrank.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Anybody out  there making repro traveling arms for the Vic R? Longshot  
here...  how about a motor & turntable for a Vic  R?

Thanks,
Loran


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Message:  2
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:14:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Buchanan  <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <658485.76085.qm at web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

I wrote the individual asking how he  came up with the price and he 
responded with

?"We had the records  appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised at 
$250-375 depending the  song."

Then when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to  ebay.
He also informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this  price.

Bill Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August  17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look  at all the common DD's he has for sale at 
$174.99.


ANTIQUE EDISON  1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE:? "INDIANA 
MOON" & "DRIGO'S  SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From:  Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
>  To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
> 
> Wow, friends!? Take a look at this beauty.? It's  bargain priced.? It 
states 
> in the description, "A part is broken and  missing, but does not affect 
the 
> playability or beauty."? At this  price, one can stand a part or two 
missing 
> I'm sure!
> 
>  Ebay item number 180396054703???
> 
> PS - I've got a William and  Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of 
> Diamond Discs!
>  
> Brantley
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Message: 3
Date: Mon,  17 Aug 2009 19:25:38 -0700
From: Loran Hughes  <loran at oldcrank.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <437A097D-D98B-4DE5-8E32-837BED5FFB6B at oldcrank.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset=US-ASCII;    format=flowed;   
delsp=yes

This is my favorite part:

THE FRONT WOODEN  DECORATIVE SCROLLING HAS BROKEN OFF DUE TO AGE DOES  
NOT AFFECT  PLAYABILTY OR BEAUTY.

I bought one of these a few years back for the  parts. Don't think I  
paid much more than  $50.

Loran


On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:14 PM, William Buchanan  wrote:

> I wrote the individual asking how he came up with the price  and he  
> responded with
>
>  "We had the records  appraised by an antique dealer. They're  
> appraised at $250-375  depending the song."
>
> Then when I replied to his email he  threatened to report me to ebay.
> He also informed me that he had sold  6 of the records at this price.
>
> Bill  Buchanan
>



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Message:  4
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:22:17 EDT
From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <cee.61186981.37bb6a59 at wmconnect.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"

Steve,

All I can say is that they are mighty  proud of their Edisons!  It reminds 
me of a local antique shop in  Aiken, S.C.  Just last week, an Edison 30 
without the grill went for  a whopping $875.00.  I guess the buyer thought 
he got 
a real bargain  since $1850.00 was the original asking price, but marked 
through with  $875.00 on the price tag.  I just participated in a local 
museum  
Collector's Day by displaying about five of my machines.  I got a lot  of 
oohs 
and ahhs.  The one thing that I encouraged future collectors  to do is to 
join a group or club.  This will help provide the  knowledge to help keep 
from 
paying too much or getting ripped off.   

Most people don't have a clue and just buy on impulse.  Take care  all and 
help me find a Nipper please.  Thanks ever so  much.

Brantley


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Message:  5
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:30:52 -0400
From: Alan Wohl  <bubba2u at optonline.net>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <F49B5C5BEB394F5384FD2E81AD9FC5F6 at Daisy>
Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

I wrote him when he first posted.  I told him  in a nice way that he was 
spending more on Ebay fees than what the records  are worth.  He told me 
that 
he had sold six also.  I think the  tooth fairy bought them.  What really 
bothers me about nuts like this  is that their insanity has a tendency to 
spread.  I haven't bought a  cylinder or disc record off ebay in I don't 
know 
how long. If people like  this ask crazy prices over and over again it soon 
becomes the  norm.



\\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William  Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14  PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!


I wrote the  individual asking how he came up with the price and he 
responded  
with

"We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're  appraised at 
$250-375 depending the song."

Then when I replied to  his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
He also informed me that he  had sold 6 of the records at this price.

Bill  Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August  17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look  at all the common DD's he has for sale at 
$174.99.


ANTIQUE  EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA 
MOON" 
&  "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m

> From:  Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43 -0400
>  To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
>
> Wow, friends! Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain  priced. It states
> in the description, "A part is broken and missing,  but does not affect 
the
> playability or beauty." At this price, one can  stand a part or two 
missing
> I'm sure!
>
> Ebay item number  180396054703
>
> PS - I've got a William and Mary that I'd sell  cheap, and with lots of
> Diamond Discs!
>
>  Brantley
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Mon,  17 Aug 2009 21:56:26 -0600
From: donlk at webtv.net (Gridleak)
To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Need some parts for a Columbia  BKT
Message-ID:  <2591-4A8A266A-3996 at storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
Content-Type:  Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

I need the feed nut for a BKT its a  trigger shaped piece. A Bk may use
the same nut.
This machine has the  4/2 feed screw and came with a couple of extra
gears that I believe are  part of the 4 min gearing. The extra pieces are
a large gear the same size  as on the feed screw but thinner and a
triangular piece of metal that has a  small gear riveted on it, there is
a hole in the piece that shows signs of  having another gear riveted on
but is missing .
I have the machine  operating in the 2 min mode (sans a good feed nut)
but would like to know  if I have all the right parts and how these gears
are configured for 4 min  operation.
Thanks     

DON
AC7PD





















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Message:  7
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:31:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
Message-ID:  <202344.58677.qm at web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling  with Mike Sorter at the table to 
his right. We have been doing the show  together for something like 8 or 9 
years. I think you introduced yourself, did  you not? Sorry to be so vague, I 
met a LOT of people at the show!
John  Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date:  Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the  CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and 
met some new ones. I bought some  parts and picked up a couple of machines. I 
did get that really cool Busy Bee  Columbia Q client machine from Mike 
Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a  good price. Thanks Mike. I really 
enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've  been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, 
and each year is always better than the  previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09,  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From:  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21  PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe  Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00  
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who  brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the  top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I  do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a  ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to  have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a  client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The  pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany  needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take  a while but I can let you know what I am going 
to
do after I restore the  mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM,  <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so  bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is  on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I 
think
>  he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one  and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my  first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it  was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it  back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find  all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his 
phone#
> or  email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug  17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >  Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> >  John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked  by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike  before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will 
have
> > to
>  > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking  
for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of  anyone who is 
selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for  it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
>  > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi  Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall  (near the 
snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor  Schoolhouse with the smooth 
oak
> > horn
> > > (still  have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
>  Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes  and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman  was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the 
chairs
> >  and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > >  I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> >  >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>  > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > >  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date:  Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> >  >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I  kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > >  list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
>  wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the  HMV I got from you-I hooked up with 
Dan
> > > Reed
> >  > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold  
some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing  that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it  paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > >  Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34  AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >  >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I  thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > >  a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was 
in
>  > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think  would sell, and may buddy 
who I
> > > sell
> > > >  with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to 
the
>  > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four  years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was  a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for  what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > >  sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it  makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > >  > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming  down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> >  > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date:  Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as  usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > >  machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> >  phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The  entertainment for the Banquet 
as
> > > Scott
> > >  > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have  seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12  years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> >  > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing,  and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2  hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > >  > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
>  David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great  Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford,  President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph  Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and  Denise Corbett" <
> > > >  sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph  List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> >  > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in  
Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have  attended all 24 years 
the
> > show
> > > > has
>  > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc  (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125  and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> >  Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of  27 known) were also 
for
> > > sale.
> > > > >  One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
>  each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell  phone telling his friend "You need 
to
> > get
> > > >  down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff  is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > >  > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
>  200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great  dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> >  presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent  movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
>  > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while  the 
reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to  the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and 
Laurel
> &
> > >  > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among  the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > >  > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
>  > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > >  crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > >  accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes  to set the mood. As a bonus, 
we
> > > heard
> > > >  a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone  Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > >  > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next  August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott &  Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > >  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > >  > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > >  > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > >  >
> > > > >
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Message:  8
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:36:44 -0500
From: "Jeffry Young, D.O."  <jeffryy at prevea.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Original Paper Mache  Nipper 14" For Sale?
Message-ID:
<6C7EA97CA5292848B80F204F38A737520EDA0626 at mercury.prevea.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

You may want to contact  Joan Rolf at nipper at dataex.com 

-----Original Message-----
From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
On  Behalf Of Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:42  PM
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Original Paper Mache  Nipper 14" For Sale?

Does anyone have an original paper mache Nipper  14" for sale?  I'd love
to 
suprise my wife for her birthday.   If possible, a nice presentable one
would 
be great.   Thanks.

Brantley

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Message:  9
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:42:20 -0400
From: "Ron L'Herault"  <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <002001ca2009$b54fa290$7cd6299b at ad.bu.edu>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

It is possible he got good  money for some of his DDs.  He's got Christmas
records there, I think  I saw and these go a bit high.  Maybe one was LUNF
which usually goes  for more than $100.   We don't know if they were 52000
series,  right?

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]  
On
Behalf Of Alan Wohl
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
To:  Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!

I wrote him  when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he was 
spending  more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.  He told me  
that

he had sold six also.  I think the tooth fairy bought  them.  What really 
bothers me about nuts like this is that their  insanity has a tendency to 
spread.  I haven't bought a cylinder or  disc record off ebay in I don't 
know

how long. If people like this ask  crazy prices over and over again it soon 
becomes the  norm.



\\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William  Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14  PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!


I wrote the  individual asking how he came up with the price and he  
responded

with

"We had the records appraised by an antique  dealer. They're appraised at 
$250-375 depending the song."

Then  when I replied to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
He also  informed me that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.

Bill  Buchanan



-- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:

From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August  17, 2009, 9:01 PM


Brantley,

You missed the best part, look  at all the common DD's he has for sale at 
$174.99.


ANTIQUE  EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA  
MOON"

& "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h  59m

> From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  19:56:43 -0400
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Subject: [Phono-L]  What A Beauty On Ebay!
>
> Wow, friends! Take a look at this  beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
> in the description, "A part is  broken and missing, but does not affect 
the
> playability or beauty." At  this price, one can stand a part or two 
missing
> I'm  sure!
>
> Ebay item number 180396054703
>
> PS - I've  got a William and Mary that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
> Diamond  Discs!
>
> Brantley
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Message:  10
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:31:48 -0600
From: Andrew Baron  <andy at popyrus.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C at popyrus.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Somehow, it's  hard to imagine the executives approving this one.  Any   
thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQi
temZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_t
rksid=p3286.c0.m14


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Message:  11
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:11:22 -0500
From: "Robert Wright"  <esroberto at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <BLU105-DAV615B079B77FF5CAEE4794AAFF0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville where  RCA/BMG was a label with 
plenty of employees.


----- Original  Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
To:  "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday,  August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?


> Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving  this one.  Any 
> thoughts?
>
>  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ2704442661
69QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Message: 12
Date:  Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:41:12 -0400
From: "Ron L'Herault"  <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <002b01ca2011$ee918ed0$7cd6299b at ad.bu.edu>
Content-Type:  text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"

It's kinda cute,  though.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]  
On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:32 AM
To:  Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?

Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this  one.  Any   
thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQi
temZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b9&_t
rksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Message:  13
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:46:25 -0600
From: Andrew Baron  <andy at popyrus.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <C7296056-DF61-4414-BF3C-9D9AF1890AA0 at popyrus.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

So, it sounds  like a genuine RCA corporate article.  Do you have any  
idea  when these were made?

Andy


On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM,  Robert Wright wrote:

> I've seen plenty of these here in Nashville  where RCA/BMG was a  
> label with plenty of  employees.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew  Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31  AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
>
>
>>  Somehow, it's hard to imagine the executives approving this one.    
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02b
9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>>  _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>
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Message:  14
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:54:33 -0500
From: "Robert Wright"  <esroberto at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <BLU105-DAV585361B608AA497BF64A2AAFF0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type:  text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Looking at the amount of marbles this guy has for  sale, I think I may 
retract my initial assertion it's genuine.  I  have seen plenty of RCA 
marble 
sets that I know came from RCA here in  town...  None of them this big, 
however.  I know they made them  through the 80's (or so I've been told by 
ex-RCA employees).  I've  only seen the kind that look like these,  however:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-LOGO-MARBLES-5-8-SIZE_W0QQitemZ280386290833QQ
cmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item4148534491&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


-----  Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Baron"  <andy at popyrus.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:46  AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?


> So, it sounds  like a genuine RCA corporate article.  Do you have any  
idea  
> when these were made?
>
> Andy
>
>
> On  Aug 18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
>
>> I've seen  plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a  label 
>>  with plenty of employees.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original  Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
>> To:  "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent:  Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
>>
>>
>>> Somehow, it's hard to imagine  the executives approving this one.   Any 
>>>  thoughts?
>>>
>>>  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc02
b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>>  http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
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Message: 15
Date:  Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:58:30 -0600
From: Andrew Baron  <andy at popyrus.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
Message-ID:  <1DAD7541-E4D2-4DFD-B80F-6A9374ABE6E1 at popyrus.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Thanks for the  update and link.  Perhaps some of the Nipper collectors  
on this  list can advise?  I'm not a nipper collector.  A collector   
friend sent me the original eBay link and wanted to know what I   
thought.  I told him it might be a fake, but would  inquire.

Best,
Andy

On Aug 18, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Robert  Wright wrote:

> Looking at the amount of marbles this guy has for  sale, I think I  
> may retract my initial assertion it's  genuine.  I have seen plenty  
> of RCA marble sets that I  know came from RCA here in town...  None  
> of them this big,  however.  I know they made them through the 80's  
> (or so  I've been told by ex-RCA employees).  I've only seen the kind   
> that look like these, however:
>
>  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-LOGO-MARBLES-5-8-SIZE_W0QQitemZ280386290833QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item4148534491&_trksid=p3286.c0.
m14
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron"  <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:46  AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad  piece?
>
>
>> So, it sounds like a genuine RCA corporate  article.  Do you have  
>> any  idea when these were  made?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Aug  18, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Robert Wright wrote:
>>
>>> I've  seen plenty of these here in Nashville where RCA/BMG was a    
>>> label with plenty of  employees.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original  Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
>>>  To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:31 AM
>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake  RCA ad piece?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Somehow,  it's hard to imagine the executives approving this  
>>>>  one.   Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>  
http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-VICTOR-RADIO-PHONOGRAPH-MARBLE-WITH-FREE-STAND_W0QQitemZ270444266169QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item3ef7bc0
2b9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>>>  http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>>
>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>
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Message:  16
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:11:13 -0400
From: Alan Wohl  <bubba2u at optonline.net>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on  Ebay!
Message-ID:  <1A17DBAF1A4C4241A84B3521B9656C48 at Daisy>
Content-Type: text/plain;  format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original

Ron,

I don't want to dwell on the subject  but none of his records have yet to 
go 
off.  The first one ends  tomorrow.  Maybe he had the "Greetings" record 
that 
he sold privately  but I doubt it.  I collect other things and guys like 
this 
are all  over ebay and Craigs list.  I've given up trying to set them  
straight.  It's not my job and all you get out of it is  aggravation.

AL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron  L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:42  AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!


> It is possible he  got good money for some of his DDs.  He's got Christmas
> records  there, I think I saw and these go a bit high.  Maybe one was LUNF
>  which usually goes for more than $100.   We don't know if they were  
52000
> series, right?
>
> Ron L
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org  [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Alan  Wohl
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
> To: Antique  Phonograph List
> Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
>
> I  wrote him when he first posted.  I told him in a nice way that he  was
> spending more on Ebay fees than what the records are worth.   He told me 
> that
>
> he had sold six also.  I think  the tooth fairy bought them.  What really
> bothers me about nuts  like this is that their insanity has a tendency to
> spread.  I  haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I don't 
>  know
>
> how long. If people like this ask crazy prices over and  over again it 
soon
> becomes the norm.
>
>
>
>  \\\\\----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Buchanan"  <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14  PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
>
>
> I wrote the individual asking how he came up  with the price and he 
> responded
>
> with
>
>  "We had the records appraised by an antique dealer. They're appraised  at
> $250-375 depending the song."
>
> Then when I replied  to his email he threatened to report me to ebay.
> He also informed me  that he had sold 6 of the records at this price.
>
> Bill  Buchanan
>
>
>
> -- On Mon, 8/17/09, Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
>
> From: Steven Medved  <steve_noreen at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
> To: "Phono-l" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Monday,  August 17, 2009, 9:01 PM
>
>
> Brantley,
>
> You  missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale at
>  $174.99.
>
>
> ANTIQUE EDISON 1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND.  RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA 
> MOON"
>
> & "DRIGO'S  SERENADE"Enlarge0 Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m
>
>> From:  Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43  -0400
>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>> Subject: [Phono-L] What  A Beauty On Ebay!
>>
>> Wow, friends! Take a look at this  beauty. It's bargain priced. It states
>> in the description, "A part  is broken and missing, but does not affect 
>> the
>>  playability or beauty." At this price, one can stand a part or two  
>> missing
>> I'm sure!
>>
>> Ebay item  number 180396054703
>>
>> PS - I've got a William and Mary  that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
>> Diamond  Discs!
>>
>> Brantley
>>  _______________________________________________
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>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>  _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
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Message: 17
Date:  Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:45:32 -0500
From: Rich  <rich-mail at octoxol.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on  Ebay!
Message-ID: <4A8ADAAC.2060605 at octoxol.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

They are the electronic  equivalent of the Buy Here-Pay Here used car 
dealer.  Just ignore  them.  There are way too many buyers out there who 
will buy the junk  and they know it.

Almost like the Payday Loan  Places.



Alan Wohl wrote:
> Ron,
> 
> I don't  want to dwell on the subject but none of his records have yet to 
> go  off.  The first one ends tomorrow.  Maybe he had the "Greetings"  
> record that he sold privately but I doubt it.  I collect other  things 
> and guys like this are all over ebay and Craigs list.   I've given up 
> trying to set them straight.  It's not my job and  all you get out of it 
> is aggravation.
> 
> AL
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L'Herault"  <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:42  AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Nuts on Ebay!
> 
> 
>>  It is possible he got good money for some of his DDs.  He's got  
Christmas
>> records there, I think I saw and these go a bit  high.  Maybe one was 
LUNF
>> which usually goes for more than  $100.   We don't know if they were 
52000
>> series,  right?
>>
>> Ron L
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org 
>>  [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
>> Behalf Of Alan  Wohl
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:31 PM
>> To:  Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Nuts on  Ebay!
>>
>> I wrote him when he first posted.  I told  him in a nice way that he was
>> spending more on Ebay fees than what  the records are worth.  He told 
>> me  that
>>
>> he had sold six also.  I think the tooth  fairy bought them.  What really
>> bothers me about nuts like  this is that their insanity has a tendency to
>> spread.  I  haven't bought a cylinder or disc record off ebay in I 
>> don't  know
>>
>> how long. If people like this ask crazy prices  over and over again it 
>> soon
>> becomes the  norm.
>>
>>
>>
>> \\\\\----- Original  Message ----- From: "William Buchanan" 
>>  <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:14  PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What A Beauty On  Ebay!
>>
>>
>> I wrote the individual asking how he  came up with the price and he 
>> responded
>>
>>  with
>>
>> "We had the records appraised by an antique  dealer. They're appraised at
>> $250-375 depending the  song."
>>
>> Then when I replied to his email he threatened  to report me to ebay.
>> He also informed me that he had sold 6 of  the records at this price.
>>
>> Bill  Buchanan
>>
>>
>>
>> -- On Mon, 8/17/09,  Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>  From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>
>> Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>> To: "Phono-l"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01  PM
>>
>>
>> Brantley,
>>
>> You  missed the best part, look at all the common DD's he has for sale  
at
>> $174.99.
>>
>>
>> ANTIQUE EDISON  1/4" THICK RECORD - MINT COND. RARE!SONGS ARE: "INDIANA 
>>  MOON"
>>
>> & "DRIGO'S SERENADE"Enlarge0  Bids$174.99$200.001d 14h 59m
>>
>>> From:  Kuglarb at wmconnect.com
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:43  -0400
>>> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>>> Subject:  [Phono-L] What A Beauty On Ebay!
>>>
>>> Wow, friends!  Take a look at this beauty. It's bargain priced. It 
states
>>> in  the description, "A part is broken and missing, but does not 
>>>  affect the
>>> playability or beauty." At this price, one can  stand a part or two 
>>> missing
>>> I'm  sure!
>>>
>>> Ebay item number  180396054703
>>>
>>> PS - I've got a William and Mary  that I'd sell cheap, and with lots of
>>> Diamond  Discs!
>>>
>>> Brantley
>>>  _______________________________________________
>>> Phono-L  mailing list
>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Phono-L mailing  list
>>  http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 18  Aug 2009 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
Message-ID:  <832907.81451.qm at web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi John, We sure did speak. You were  going to email me a copy of an Edison 
Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and  conversed with you in the past. I 
was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry  Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. 
It's a nice machine I had a great time.  Harvey P. Kravitz

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date:  Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was  selling with Mike Sorter at the table to 
his right. We have been doing the  show together for something like 8 or 9 
years. I think you introduced  yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I 
met a LOT of people at the  show!
John Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date:  Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the  CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and 
met some new ones. I bought some  parts and picked up a couple of machines. I 
did get that really cool Busy Bee  Columbia Q client machine from Mike 
Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a  good price. Thanks Mike. I really 
enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've  been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, 
and each year is always better than the  previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09,  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From:  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21  PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe  Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00  
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who  brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the  top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I  do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a  ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to  have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a  client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The  pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany  needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take  a while but I can let you know what I am going 
to
do after I restore the  mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM,  <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so  bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is  on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I 
think
>  he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one  and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my  first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it  was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it  back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find  all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his 
phone#
> or  email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug  17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >  Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> >  John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked  by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike  before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will 
have
> > to
>  > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking  
for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of  anyone who is 
selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for  it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
>  > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi  Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall  (near the 
snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor  Schoolhouse with the smooth 
oak
> > horn
> > > (still  have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
>  Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes  and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman  was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the 
chairs
> >  and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > >  I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> >  >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>  > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > >  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date:  Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> >  >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I  kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > >  list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
>  wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the  HMV I got from you-I hooked up with 
Dan
> > > Reed
> >  > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold  
some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing  that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it  paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > >  Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34  AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >  >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I  thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > >  a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was 
in
>  > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think  would sell, and may buddy 
who I
> > > sell
> > > >  with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to 
the
>  > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four  years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was  a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for  what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > >  sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it  makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > >  > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming  down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> >  > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date:  Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as  usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > >  machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> >  phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The  entertainment for the Banquet 
as
> > > Scott
> > >  > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have  seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12  years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> >  > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing,  and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2  hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > >  > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
>  David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great  Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford,  President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph  Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and  Denise Corbett" <
> > > >  sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph  List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> >  > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in  
Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have  attended all 24 years 
the
> > show
> > > > has
>  > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc  (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125  and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> >  Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of  27 known) were also 
for
> > > sale.
> > > > >  One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
>  each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell  phone telling his friend "You need 
to
> > get
> > > >  down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff  is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > >  > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
>  200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great  dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> >  presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent  movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
>  > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while  the 
reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to  the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and 
Laurel
> &
> > >  > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among  the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > >  > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
>  > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > >  crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > >  accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes  to set the mood. As a bonus, 
we
> > > heard
> > > >  a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone  Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > >  > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next  August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott &  Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > >  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > >  > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > >  > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > >  >
> > > > >
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Message: 19
Date: Tue,  18 Aug 2009 19:12:26 +0000
From: john9ten at pacbell.net
To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
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Oh, thanks  for reminding me!!! I need to make one for myself too.
John
Sent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: harvey  kravitz <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:46:46  
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


Hi John, We sure did speak. You were  going to email me a copy of an Edison 
Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and  conversed with you in the past. I 
was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry  Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. 
It's a nice machine I had a great time.  Harvey P. Kravitz

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From: john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date:  Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM

Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was  selling with Mike Sorter at the table to 
his right. We have been doing the  show together for something like 8 or 9 
years. I think you introduced  yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I 
met a LOT of people at the  show!
John Robles

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: harvey kravitz  <harveykravitz at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph  show
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date:  Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM


I had a really good time at the  CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and 
met some new ones. I bought some  parts and picked up a couple of machines. I 
did get that really cool Busy Bee  Columbia Q client machine from Mike 
Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a  good price. Thanks Mike. I really 
enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've  been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, 
and each year is always better than the  previous year.
Harvey P. Kravitz
--- On Mon, 8/17/09,  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

From:  john9ten at pacbell.net <john9ten at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  CAPS phonograph show
To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21  PM

Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it.
John
Sent from my  Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Abe  Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00  
To: Antique Phonograph List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show


I think that Pat was the person who  brought in the Credenza case and had it
in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the  top would have had to be reskined and a
lot of touch up work to be done. I  do art restoration for a living so I can
do the work-but it would take a  ton to bring it back. The leather was in
good shape-but I don't have to  have that. I just got a Amberola V with
matching cabinet in mahogany from a  client-I am not sure that I need 2
though my other is in oak. The  pinstriping and paint is about the same on
both80-85% but the mahogany  needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60
grit sandpaper. It my take  a while but I can let you know what I am going 
to
do after I restore the  mahogany case and cabinet.
Abe

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM,  <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:

> I want an amberola V so  bad...I once had one and should never have let it
> go!
> Pat is  on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I 
think
>  he was to the right of Jerry Blais.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless  BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
>
>? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  11:52:30
> To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
>
>
> John, was Pat at the show? some one  and I can never remember his name-I
> bought an Ambrola V from him at my  first CAPS show had a chroma leather
> crendza case at the show and it  was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and
> while
> I could bring it  back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still
> need to find  all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his 
phone#
> or  email address.
> Thx in advance
> Abe
>
> On Mon, Aug  17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, <john9ten at pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >  Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!!
> >  John
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> >
> >? Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009  10:22:06
> > To: Antique Phonograph  List<phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> >
> >
> > John I must have walked  by you a dozen times or more-???I have bought
> > cylinders from Mike  before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will 
have
> > to
>  > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking  
for
> a
> > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of  anyone who is 
selling
> > one in driving distance from Az I am up for  it.
> > Thx sorry I missed you
> > Abe
> >
>  > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles  <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi  Abe
> > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall  (near the 
snack
> > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor  Schoolhouse with the smooth 
oak
> > horn
> > > (still  have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike
>  Sorter,
> > he
> > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes  and standards. We had two tables,
> then
> > > Nestor Guzman  was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the 
chairs
> >  and
> > > tables).? Were you next to Stan Spate?
> > >  I am sorry to have missed you!
> > > John
> >  >
> > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder  <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>  > > From: Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com>
> > >  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > Date:  Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
> > >
> >  >
> > > Hi John,
> > > were the heck were you I  kept looking and did not see you on the
> dealers
> > >  list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I
>  wanted
> > > to
> > > tell you how much I enjoyed the  HMV I got from you-I hooked up with 
Dan
> > > Reed
> >  > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold  
some
> > > stuff
> > > -it was my first time doing  that- but while I did not have a lot to
> sell
> > > but it  paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year.
> > >  Thx Abe Feder
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34  AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >  >
> > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I  thought last year's
> show
> > > was
> > > >  a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was 
in
>  > > marked
> > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think  would sell, and may buddy 
who I
> > > sell
> > > >  with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to 
the
>  > > show
> > > > for at least the past three or four  years!
> > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was  a Victor M with
> brass
> > > > belled horn from Stan for  what I thought was a very good price. It
> now
> > >  sits
> > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it  makes a pretty
> > picture,
> > > I
> > >  > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming  down.
> > > > John Robles
> > > >
> >  > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  From: Stan Stanford <stan at clarphon.com>
> > > > Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
> > > > To: "Antique  Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date:  Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as  usual.???There were
> > > interesting
> > > >  machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6
> >  phonographs
> > > > and many related small items.? ? The  entertainment for the Banquet 
as
> > > Scott
> > >  > and Denise have described was superb....as good as any I have  seen
> over
> > > the
> > > > past 10 or 12  years.???Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running
> the
> >  > > projector.???The precision with which they worked was amazing,  and
> the
> > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2  hours.? In addition to all
> this
> > > we
> > >  > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to
>  David
> > > > Giovannoni.???Congrats CAPS for such a great  Show!!!
> > > >
> > > > Stan Stanford,  President
> > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph  Society
> > > >
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and  Denise Corbett" <
> > > >  sdcorbett at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "'Antique Phonograph  List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 10:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS  phonograph show
> > > >
> > > >
> >  > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in  
Southern
> > > > > California, it was a great show! We have  attended all 24 years 
the
> > show
> > > > has
>  > > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc  (minus
> > > > reproducer)
> > > > > for $125  and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains.
> >  Rare
> > > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of  27 known) were also 
for
> > > sale.
> > > > >  One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00
>  each.
> > I
> > > > > overheard one guy on his cell  phone telling his friend "You need 
to
> > get
> > > >  down
> > > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff  is here!" That was
> just
> > > the
> > > >  > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with
>  200
> > > > lots,
> > > > > and a great  dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo
> >  presented
> > > a
> > > > > range of silent  movies on his original hand cranked projector.
> > Original
>  > > > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while  the 
reels
> > were
> > > > > changed. "A Trip to  the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and 
Laurel
> &
> > >  > Hardy's
> > > > > immortal "Big Business" were among  the classics shown. I had a
> > > difficult
> > > >  > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or
>  > > watching
> > > > him
> > > > >  crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano
> > >  accompaniment.
> > > > > The presenters wore period costumes  to set the mood. As a bonus, 
we
> > > heard
> > > >  a
> > > > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone  Concert machine.
> Wow,
> > > > what
> > >  > > volume!
> > > > > Mark your calendars for next  August!
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott &  Denise Corbett
> > > > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:
> > >  phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org]
> > > > On
> > > >  > Behalf Of RROCRREC at aol.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday,  August 13, 2009 6:44 PM
> > > > > To:  phono-l at oldcrank.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
> > > > >
> > >  > > Any information of CAPS convention?
> > > >  >
> > > > >
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From edisone1 at verizon.net  Wed Aug 19 00:14:50 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:14:50 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6,
 Issue 154 (real subject: removing excess text)
References: <d02.5f31c822.37bcec61@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B4CBF9EF242244CE84D6DD57E39DF6BF@moms>

 Apparently, people are not removing the previous text, as you have also 
failed to do, by quoting the entire digest in your reply.

 Another way to keep things neat is to reply directly to the person, when 
intending a message for only that person ("I missed you at..", for example)

 Note how the following is cut, after the salient part of your message:


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <RROCRREC at aol.com>
>
> Please forgive me for asking about the CAPS show in my inquire of weeks
> ago.  My simple email has generated well over one hundred pages of replies
> over and over. I would be willing to contribute donations to the site to
> figure  out how to make all the old mail simply be removed after the first
> publication. 


From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 02:28:23 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
Message-ID: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>


hi

i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here

does anyone have one

most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer

at one time some one was making the pump

any help will be appreciated

thanks

zono

From Muldwourp at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 03:15:05 2009
From: Muldwourp at aol.com (Muldwourp at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:15:05 EDT
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
Message-ID: <c28.5fbea839.37bd2aa9@aol.com>

 

You might want to contact Paul Baker.  He probably has what you need  or 
can help you find it.  His email address is _classm at roadrunner.com_ 
(mailto:classm at roadrunner.com) 
 
--Grant
 
In a message dated 8/19/2009 5:08:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
zonophone2006 at aol.com writes:

hi

i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone  here

does anyone have one

most of the parts are there except for  a pump and the reproducer

at one time some one was making the  pump

any help will be  appreciated

thanks

zono





From andy at popyrus.com  Wed Aug 19 07:03:35 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:03:35 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>

Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
machine (if you can reach him).

Andy


On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:

>
> hi
>
> i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here
>
> does anyone have one
>
> most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer
>
> at one time some one was making the pump
>
> any help will be appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> zono
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org


From andy at popyrus.com  Wed Aug 19 07:27:32 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:27:32 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] Fake RCA ad piece?
In-Reply-To: <F0758D7448474596B09184FB9C7E00F8@owner094cc0223>
References: <49FA571A-BDED-45CD-8F70-54552C913C5C@popyrus.com>
	<002b01ca2011$ee918ed0$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>
	<F0758D7448474596B09184FB9C7E00F8@owner094cc0223>
Message-ID: <399EDCDE-1977-43E1-AAD1-A5B84C573BC7@popyrus.com>

Many thanks for taking the time to post this update.

Andy Baron

On Aug 18, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Robin Rolfs wrote:

> Greeting Phonolisters,
>
> You are correct, executives would probably not approve the marble on  
> E-bay
> with the Nipper and gramophone trademark.  In our book "Nipper
> Collectibles," we wrote eight pages on the Nipper logo, it's history  
> and
> changes.  Our last page we titled, "Is That All There is, Nipper?"
>
> You see, recently Nipper's pedigree has become rather convoluted and
> fragmented.  Once the world's most recognizable trademark, Nipper  
> can now
> only appear in the country of origin. Because of territorial  
> licensing, he
> can no longer  be used as a tool in global marketing and  
> identification of a
> product.  Therefore, because Nipper is not a trademark in the USA,  
> nobody
> cares if the trademark is used.
>
> The marble is a new Nipper collectible.  As long as the trademark  
> sells, we
> are sure there will be many more new Nipper logo items on the market.
> Chapter 6 of our Nipper Collectibles book is titled, "Nipper  
> Reproductions,
> Friend or Faux."  We discuss reproduction and fantasy items that  
> should be
> marketed as nostalgic Nipper collectibles.  Because of the amount of  
> new
> Nipper collectibles we are planning a future update to our book in  
> another
> three years.  Of course we feel the new items should be marked as
> reproductions or new, however, it is also nice to know that the  
> Nipper logo
> is still a popular collectible.
> Visit our website at:
> www.audioantique.com
>
> Robin & Joan Rolfs
>
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From jay.horenstein at gmail.com  Wed Aug 19 08:35:58 2009
From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com (Jay Horenstein)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:35:58 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
	<FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
Message-ID: <4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>

Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have
beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of
These gentlemen.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone

Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
machine (if you can reach him).

Andy


On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:

>
> hi
>
> i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here
>
> does anyone have one
>
> most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer
>
> at one time some one was making the pump
>
> any help will be appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> zono
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

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From appywander at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 19 08:48:05 2009
From: appywander at hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:48:05 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
	<FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com> 
	<4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <SNT120-W43191CD16923E2FDEC9124DCFE0@phx.gbl>


Paul Baker was making pumps.

> From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:35:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
> 
> Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have
> beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of
> These gentlemen.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Baron
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
> 
> Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
> machine (if you can reach him).
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> >
> > hi
> >
> > i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here
> >
> > does anyone have one
> >
> > most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer
> >
> > at one time some one was making the pump
> >
> > any help will be appreciated
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > zono
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 10:24:45 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:24:45 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
	<FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
Message-ID: <8CBEF0914A705C1-134-5D69@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>


 thank you andy but cant find a phone number for him


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Baron <andy at popyrus.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 10:03 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone









Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this machine (if you can reach him).?
?

Andy?
?


On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:?
?

>?

> hi?

>?

> i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here?

>?

> does anyone have one?

>?

> most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer?

>?

> at one time some one was making the pump?

>?

> any help will be appreciated?

>?

> thanks?

>?

> zono?

> _______________________________________________?

> Phono-L mailing list?

> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org?
?

_______________________________________________?

Phono-L mailing list?

http://phono-l.oldcrank.org?



 


From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 10:26:06 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:26:06 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <SNT120-W43191CD16923E2FDEC9124DCFE0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com><FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
	<4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>
	<SNT120-W43191CD16923E2FDEC9124DCFE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CBEF0943C91FA1-134-5D90@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>


 thank you for all your help all


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Maeder <appywander at hotmail.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 11:48 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone











Paul Baker was making pumps.

> From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:35:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
> 
> Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have
> beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of
> These gentlemen.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrew Baron
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
> 
> Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
> machine (if you can reach him).
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> >
> > hi
> >
> > i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here
> >
> > does anyone have one
> >
> > most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer
> >
> > at one time some one was making the pump
> >
> > any help will be appreciated
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > zono
> > _______________________________________________
> > Phono-L mailing list
> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
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ty


 


From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 10:21:44 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:21:44 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <c28.5fbea839.37bd2aa9@aol.com>
References: <c28.5fbea839.37bd2aa9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBEF08A89D7DA1-134-5D0D@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>


 ty


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Muldwourp at aol.com
To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 6:15 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone










 

You might want to contact Paul Baker.  He probably has what you need  or 
can help you find it.  His email address is _classm at roadrunner.com_ 
(mailto:classm at roadrunner.com) 
 
--Grant
 
In a message dated 8/19/2009 5:08:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
zonophone2006 at aol.com writes:

hi

i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone  here

does anyone have one

most of the parts are there except for  a pump and the reproducer

at one time some one was making the  pump

any help will be  appreciated

thanks

zono




_______________________________________________
Phono-L mailing list
http://phono-l.oldcrank.org



 


From zonophone2006 at aol.com  Wed Aug 19 10:25:34 2009
From: zonophone2006 at aol.com (zonophone2006 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:25:34 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
In-Reply-To: <4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>
References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com><FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
	<4a8c1c31.14b48c0a.591a.7d1a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <8CBEF09319DE0E1-134-5D80@webmail-d033.sysops.aol.com>


 


 thank you
i will try to reach one or both of them


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Horenstein <jay.horenstein at gmail.com>
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 11:35 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone










Stan Stanford of Portland, and Jerry Blais of Albany Oregon each have
beautifully restored Auxetophones. It might be worth a call to one of
These gentlemen.

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:04 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone

Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
machine (if you can reach him).

Andy


On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:

>
> hi
>
> i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here
>
> does anyone have one
>
> most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer
>
> at one time some one was making the pump
>
> any help will be appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> zono
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

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ty 


 


From lherault at bu.edu  Wed Aug 19 12:29:42 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:29:42 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
Message-ID: <004501ca2103$66c8e1e0$7cd6299b@ad.bu.edu>

A friend has turned up an upright Victrola in the basement of a house being
sold.  The current owners of the house do not want the Victrola, or were
unwilling to take it out of the basement, which is where it was when the
bought the house.  The problem is that in order to get the Victrola out, one
has to remove the door frame or dismantle the case of the Victrola.  

How hard is it to take a Victrola case apart?  They are glued with hide glue
and screwed together also, right?  Does one loosen hide glue with a hair
dryer, water, steam or what?

Ron L


From cdh041 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 19 13:24:10 2009
From: cdh041 at earthlink.net (Douglas Houston)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:24:10 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
Message-ID: <410-220098319202410562@earthlink.net>

I suppose this will be a stupid question, but the Victrola would have to
been carried in the basement some time ago. It would surely have been in
the main floors of the house at one time. From the way you describe, the
door must have been installed in the place after the Victrola was in the
basement. 

So, it appears that even to get it from the basement into the main floor of
the house, it has to pass through that narrow door casing. Well, H--l,
what's so hard about carefully pulling the door casing apart, then
reassembling it, after the Vic is out?  I'm sure that the obstacle is the
place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage to
it. Pulling a door casing would not do anywhere near the damage, because
it's nailed together, and in place. If the critical dimension of the door
casing , is the molding where the door closes, maybe they guy could be
sweet-talked into just pulling the molding, and replacing it. That could be
done and never be noticed. 

D'ya suppose  he might consent to cutting a hole in the floor, and lifting
the Vic into the house, then out the front door?


> [Original Message]
> From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>; Antique Phonograph
List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: 8/19/2009 3:52:02 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
>
> A friend has turned up an upright Victrola in the basement of a house
being
> sold.  The current owners of the house do not want the Victrola, or were
> unwilling to take it out of the basement, which is where it was when the
> bought the house.  The problem is that in order to get the Victrola out,
one
> has to remove the door frame or dismantle the case of the Victrola.  
>
> How hard is it to take a Victrola case apart?  They are glued with hide
glue
> and screwed together also, right?  Does one loosen hide glue with a hair
> dryer, water, steam or what?
>
> Ron L
>
> _______________________________________________
> Phono-L mailing list
> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org




From esroberto at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 19 14:13:56 2009
From: esroberto at hotmail.com (Robert Wright)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:13:56 -0500
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
References: <410-220098319202410562@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BLU105-DAV114824C2DB8D89E86D9866AAFE0@phx.gbl>

I dunno, Doug...  I think they should lay a couple of bomb blankets over the 
Victrola and wire the doorframe in question with a pound of C-4.

heh,
r.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>

  I'm sure that the obstacle is the
> place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage to
> it. Pulling a door casing would not do anywhere near the damage, because
> it's nailed together, and in place. If the critical dimension of the door
> casing , is the molding where the door closes, maybe they guy could be
> sweet-talked into just pulling the molding, and replacing it. That could 
> be
> done and never be noticed.
>
> D'ya suppose  he might consent to cutting a hole in the floor, and lifting
> the Vic into the house, then out the front door?


From cdh041 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 19 15:03:08 2009
From: cdh041 at earthlink.net (Douglas Houston)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:03:08 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
Message-ID: <410-2200983192238156@earthlink.net>

Good idea. That'll take less time.


> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Wright <esroberto at hotmail.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: 8/19/2009 5:14:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
>
> I dunno, Doug...  I think they should lay a couple of bomb blankets over
the 
> Victrola and wire the doorframe in question with a pound of C-4.
>
> heh,
> r.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>
>
>   I'm sure that the obstacle is the
> > place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage
to
> > it. Pulling a door casing would not do anywhere near the damage, because
> > it's nailed together, and in place. If the critical dimension of the
door
> > casing , is the molding where the door closes, maybe they guy could be
> > sweet-talked into just pulling the molding, and replacing it. That
could 
> > be
> > done and never be noticed.
> >
> > D'ya suppose  he might consent to cutting a hole in the floor, and
lifting
> > the Vic into the house, then out the front door?
>
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From andy at popyrus.com  Wed Aug 19 15:59:38 2009
From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:59:38 -0600
Subject: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
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References: <8CBEEC688683A58-39C-2A0B@WEBMAIL-MB15.sysops.aol.com>
	<FC5E3901-EB51-4106-B3A0-F88BDC9856C7@popyrus.com>
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Neither can I.  The last number I had appears to now be a fax number.   
It's been several years since I was last in touch with him.

Andy


On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:24 AM, zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:

>
> thank you andy but cant find a phone number for him
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Baron <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 10:03 am
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] question for all on an auxetophone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Reid Welch in Miami would also know all about the details of this  
> machine (if you can reach him).?
> ?
>
> Andy?
> ?
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Zonophone2006 at aol.com wrote:?
> ?
>
>> ?
>
>> hi?
>
>> ?
>
>> i am trying to help a museum restore and auxetophone here?
>
>> ?
>
>> does anyone have one?
>
>> ?
>
>> most of the parts are there except for a pump and the reproducer?
>
>> ?
>
>> at one time some one was making the pump?
>
>> ?
>
>> any help will be appreciated?
>
>> ?
>
>> thanks?
>
>> ?
>
>> zono?
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From edisone1 at verizon.net  Wed Aug 19 18:27:18 2009
From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
References: <410-220098319202410562@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <618DF65BE6DF4E0F8C5DF7B862AD4707@moms>

I recently took out & replaced a 1907 door frame, for a similar reason.  It 
was much easier to remove a few lengths of trim than to destroy a cabinet, 
trust me. Once that Victrola comes apart, it's doomed.   You will be 
basically SMASHING it to bits.  No hope of re-assembly.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>
]


>I suppose this will be a stupid question, but the Victrola would have to
> been carried in the basement some time ago. It would surely have been in
> the main floors of the house at one time. From the way you describe, the
> door must have been installed in the place after the Victrola was in the
> basement.
>
> So, it appears that even to get it from the basement into the main floor 
> of
> the house, it has to pass through that narrow door casing. Well, H--l,
> what's so hard about carefully pulling the door casing apart, then
> reassembling it, after the Vic is out?  I'm sure that the obstacle is the
> place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage to

>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>

>> Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
>>
>> A friend has turned up an upright Victrola in the basement of a house
> being
>> sold.  The current owners of the house do not want the Victrola, or were
>> unwilling to take it out of the basement, which is where it was when the
>> bought the house.  The problem is that in order to get the Victrola out,
> one
>> has to remove the door frame or dismantle the case of the Victrola.
>>
>> How hard is it to take a Victrola case apart?  They are glued with hide
> glue
>> and screwed together also, right?  Does one loosen hide glue with a hair
>> dryer, water, steam or what?
>>
>> Ron L


From cenfin at comcast.net  Wed Aug 19 18:25:30 2009
From: cenfin at comcast.net (Albert)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
References: <410-2200983192238156@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <452B4D5B8AE544848F03C3B93AF7D5E9@Home>

This stuff happens.  I had a Mills Violano Virtuoso in my family room and we 
did a total remodel.  at the time we didnt think about it, but 5 years later 
when we sold the Violano we had to remove an outside wall and window frame 
to get it out of the house.   It cost us alot.  AL
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola


> Good idea. That'll take less time.
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Robert Wright <esroberto at hotmail.com>
>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Date: 8/19/2009 5:14:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
>>
>> I dunno, Doug...  I think they should lay a couple of bomb blankets over
> the
>> Victrola and wire the doorframe in question with a pound of C-4.
>>
>> heh,
>> r.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>
>>
>>   I'm sure that the obstacle is the
>> > place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage
> to
>> > it. Pulling a door casing would not do anywhere near the damage, 
>> > because
>> > it's nailed together, and in place. If the critical dimension of the
> door
>> > casing , is the molding where the door closes, maybe they guy could be
>> > sweet-talked into just pulling the molding, and replacing it. That
> could
>> > be
>> > done and never be noticed.
>> >
>> > D'ya suppose  he might consent to cutting a hole in the floor, and
> lifting
>> > the Vic into the house, then out the front door?
>>
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From lherault at bu.edu  Wed Aug 19 17:56:31 2009
From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:56:31 -0400
Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
In-Reply-To: <410-220098319202410562@earthlink.net>
References: <410-220098319202410562@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <86FD35ACF5344156B0B10170BC201753@ronlherault>

Yes, the door frame was removed long ago to get it down there.  Seems like a
lot of work to me to store it at that time.  Present owners are not inclined
to mess with a house they are trying to sell.  Anyone want to buy an old
house in Newton, MA?

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Douglas Houston
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:24 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola

I suppose this will be a stupid question, but the Victrola would have to
been carried in the basement some time ago. It would surely have been in
the main floors of the house at one time. From the way you describe, the
door must have been installed in the place after the Victrola was in the
basement. 

So, it appears that even to get it from the basement into the main floor of
the house, it has to pass through that narrow door casing. Well, H--l,
what's so hard about carefully pulling the door casing apart, then
reassembling it, after the Vic is out?  I'm sure that the obstacle is the
place's owner. Dismantling a Victrola cabinet would do a lot of damage to
it. Pulling a door casing would not do anywhere near the damage, because
it's nailed together, and in place. If the critical dimension of the door
casing , is the molding where the door closes, maybe they guy could be
sweet-talked into just pulling the molding, and replacing it. That could be
done and never be noticed. 

D'ya suppose  he might consent to cutting a hole in the floor, and lifting
the Vic into the house, then out the front door?


> [Original Message]
> From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>; Antique Phonograph
List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: 8/19/2009 3:52:02 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Entombed Victrola
>
> A friend has turned up an upright Victrola in the basement of a house
being
> sold.  The current owners of the house do not want the Victrola, or were
> unwilling to take it out of the basement, which is where it was when the
> bought the house.  The problem is that in order to get the Victrola out,
one
> has to remove the door frame or dismantle the case of the Victrola.  
>
> How hard is it to take a Victrola case apart?  They are glued with hide
glue
> and screwed together also, right?  Does one loosen hide glue with a hair
> dryer, water, steam or what?
>
> Ron L
>
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