[Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale

[Albert]

Mike:  What other venues are there?  Advanced collectors are not going to 
buy common machines, or if they do they wont pay retail..  I  too hate Ebay, 
but I love to sell machines there because I have always got great prices and 
they sell quickly.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Stitt" <smstitt at gmail.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Suckerpunched by eBay & Vic III for sale


>I thought we had talked about this here. I may be wrong. When eBay forces
> PayPal they collect a % on shipping fees as well. I thought I had bemoaned
> the fact that many collectors who are not dealers but very "casual" 
> sellers
> will find "taking PayPal" way to much of a burden for an occasional sell. 
> We
> collectors tend to fuel eBay with some very nice stuff when we decide to 
> let
> go. eBay will effectively drive away sellers with good stuff and buyers as
> well. I don't mean it will doom eBay and super rare stuff will still show
> up......with the flea market stuff. The middle road people may find it
> easier to sell in another venue. I will not establish a sellers PayPal
> account for the few nice pieces I wish sell each year. I've been an eBay
> member since 1997 and my feedback is a whopping 107. I see many phono 
> items
> in the last few months for sale on this list. Keep it up. Hey no fees and
> you are dealing with people you know...sort of.... Collecting is fun when 
> it
> is part of a social network, at least to me it is..
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Abe Feder <abefeder1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> John,
>> You can take ck's you just do not put it in your add. If you not a very
>> small number say "Pay Pal account required" If they do I by pass them. I
>> send them in ask a question if they take cks or cc and they always say
>> yes.Ebay really messed up my account when they hit me with increased 
>> fee's
>> that I just did not know about. After three months of trying to get it
>> square-I just do not do pay pal.
>> Abe Feder
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:04 AM, john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >  Okay, it finally happend. Afte defending eBay (mentally if not
>> physically
>> > on this board) for a long time, I got my comeupance today. Two days ago 
>> > I
>> > put several items on eBa for sale, including a nice Vic III that I 
>> > have.
>> I
>> > am DESPERATELY trying to raise $2800 in a short time to buy a harp to
>> > replace mine (which developed structural problems).  I need to raise 
>> > this
>> > money SOON!  So I listed some phonoe items that were near and dear to 
>> > my
>> > heart, including the III. You may remember what I went through trying 
>> > to
>> get
>> > a back bracket for it.
>> > So this morning, I find that eBay has REMOVED my items because I did 
>> > the
>> > unholy deed of saying I accept Paypal and personal checks (held for
>> > clearance). Apparently you cannot accept mone order or personal checks 
>> > on
>> > ebay any more. I didn't know this because I don't read every piece of
>> > claptrap that ebay sends me. I use the Turbolister to create my 
>> > listings,
>> > and it caugh that I offered to accept money orders, and it gave me an
>> error
>> > code on that. So I changed it. BUT it did NOT give me an error code on
>> the
>> > term personal checks.  So I guess some grunt at ebay whose job it is to
>> > check such things found it and pulled m auctions. I had $460 in bids on
>> the
>> > III when it was pulled. They sent some sort of email to my bidders
>> telling
>> > them the items were being pulled. I was FURIOUS. I wrote them an angry
>> > letter, and they basicall said too bad. They were nice about it, bt at
>> the
>> > end of the letter it said I should not respond because they would not
>> > receive it. Nice
>> >  and caring.  Anyhoe I relisted most of the stuff, and the Vic III is
>> item
>> > number 110374580209.  I am so desperate to raise the cash that my buy 
>> > it
>> now
>> > on this item is only $1995, which is less money than I have into it. So
>> if
>> > you want a deal, there it is.  As for ebay, they disguise their 
>> > corporate
>> > greed behid the veil of 'protecting their sellers from fraud'. They own
>> > Paypal, so of course they want you to use it exclusively. Arrgh. Thanks
>> for
>> > leting me vent. And thanks for reading this far.
>> > John RObles
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