[Phono-L] Thanks Givings

Thu Nov 27 10:31:33 PST 2008

I would never call someone who has kept our country safe for 8 years a  
dangerous crackpot! You would have a different attitude if you were a  
Kurd in Iraq prior to March 20, 2003.
Phonograph content:
http://www.theedisonshop.com   --  My phonograph website. Happy  
Thanksgiving to all!

On Nov 27, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Peter Fraser wrote:

> ok, folks, enough jingoism - please.
>
> we're all grateful to the veterans and others who have put  
> themselves in harm's way on our behalf, but can we keep it separate  
> from the often ill-conceived (or worse) policies that created the  
> harm in the first place?
>
> as for me, i'm thankful and proud that we've democratically replaced  
> a dangerous crackpot and avoided the continuation of his foolhardy  
> policies, and now have an opportunity to restore the lost respect  
> and regain the lost trust the US once enjoyed on the world stage.   
> and through that we'll regain more safety than any number of troops  
> could ever secure.
>
> to get back on topic, while also giving an example of how some  
> things never change, now i'm going to pull out my copy of James  
> Gerard's record, "Loyalty," on the Nation's Forum label.  he was the  
> US ambassador to Germany prior to the US entry to WW1.
>
> you can listen, too;  just click here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5vuotg
>
> here's a transcript:
>
> "Loyalty"
>
> I know that it is hard for Americans to realize the magnitude of the  
> war in which we are involved. We have problems in this war no other  
> nations have. Fortunately, the great majority of American citizens  
> of German descent have, in this great crisis of our history, shown  
> themselves splendidly loyal to our flag. Everyone had a right to  
> sympathize with any warring nation. But now that we are in the war  
> there are only two sides, and the time has come when every citizen  
> must declare himself American -- or traitor!
>
> We must disappoint the Germans who have always believed that the  
> German-Americans here would risk their property, their children's  
> future, and their own neck, and take up arms for the Kaiser. The  
> Foreign Minister of Germany once said to me "your country does not  
> dare do anything against Germany, because we have in your country  
> 500,000 German reservists who will rise in arms against your  
> government if you dare to make a move against Germany." Well, I told  
> him that that might be so, but that we had 500,001 lamp posts in  
> this country, and that that was where the reservists would be  
> hanging the day after they tried to rise. And if there are any  
> German-Americans here who are so ungrateful for all the benefits  
> they have received that they are still for the Kaiser, there is only  
> one thing to do with them. And that is to hog-tie them, give them  
> back the wooden shoes and the rags they landed in, and ship them  
> back to the Fatherland.
>
> I have travelled this year over all the United States. Through the  
> Alleghenies, the White Mountains, and the Catskills, the Rockies and  
> the Bitterroot Mountains, the Cascades, the Coast Range, and the  
> Sierras. And in all these mountains, there is no animal that bites  
> and kicks and squeals and scratches, that would bite and squeal and  
> scratch equal to a fat German-American, if you commenced to tie him  
> up and told him that he was on his way back to the Kaiser.
>
> and now that i've got that out of my system, i'm going to go make a  
> couple of pumpkin pies.
>
> best to all of you, no matter what.
>
> -- peter
>
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Kat Hall wrote:
>
>> I live in Canada and my late father was a returned vet from WW11.   
>> I agree with you and wished that more people could understand about  
>> our men and women serving our countries and stand behind them  
>> instead of screaming for them to come home and let terror reign.   
>> Those people need to put away their rose colored glasses.
>>
>> Have a great Thanksgiving.  Eat lots of turkey for me.
>>
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>> From: "buck Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:27 PM
>> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Thanks Givings
>>
>>> I want to take this time to wish all of our fellow members a Happy  
>>> Thanks Givings!
>>> While we sit in our safe homes, I want you to consider those that  
>>> help keep us safe.
>>> That would be our young men and women who are serving in the  
>>> military.
>>> Whether they are here in America or serving in a distance land we  
>>> should take a moment and give thanks and offer a prayer for them  
>>> and their families.
>>> Those members who live in other nations you should also remember  
>>> your young men and women and offer a prayer for them as well.
>>> Our young people offer the greatest gift to protect us and that is  
>>> their lives.
>>> They have volunteered and placed themselves in harms way not to  
>>> become rich or to be on TV or to become famous.
>>> No they do this because they love their country and their  
>>> countrymen.
>>> With love so great that they are willing to forfeit their own  
>>> lives if it comes to that to protect us and our families.
>>> They deserve more than we will ever be able to give to them, but  
>>> they ask for nothing.
>>> All they want is to protect our homes and our families.
>>> So please take a moment and give thanks for those who protect what  
>>> we take for granted our freedom.
>>> Freedom is not free it is bought and paid for with the blood and  
>>> tears of our people.
>>> So before you sit down to your supper tomorrow please remember them.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Wm Buchanan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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