[Phono-L] Fanbox?

[Thomas Edison]

Looks like someone is using a similar name to mine, but I did not send it.  I recieve emails like this, but not in this hotmail account.   Fanbox, is similar to myspace.> From: phono-l-request at oldcrank.org> Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 5, Issue 304> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:00:07 -0800> > Send Phono-L mailing list submissions to> phono-l at oldcrank.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> phono-l-request at oldcrank.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> phono-l-owner at oldcrank.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Phono-L digest..."> > > If you reply, please change your subject line and don't include this entire digest in your message.> > Today's Topics:> > 1. valid email? (AllenAmet at aol.com)> 2. Re: valid email? (Loran T. Hughes)> 3. RE: Clutch shifting lever bracket (Steven Medved)> 4. Re: valid email? (Daniel Melvin)> 5. Re: valid email? (Kat Hall)> 6. re Victor VI dimension needed (Mario Frazzetto)> 7. Re: re Victor VI dimension needed (john9ten at pacbell.net)> 8. Triumph and BGT (ElCaminoNYC at aol.com)> 9. Edison Class M (Mike Tucker)> 10. Re: re Victor VI dimension needed (Zonophone2006 at aol.com)> 11. Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish (Mark Lynch)> 12. RE: Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish (Douglas Houston)> 13. Re: Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish (Rich)> 14. Re: re Victor VI dimension needed (Mario Frazzetto)> 15. Re: Edison Class M (ClockworkHome at aol.com)> 16. RE: Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish (gregory caringi)> 17. Re: Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish (Zonophone2006 at aol.com)> 18. Re: re Victor VI dimension needed (john robles)> 19. Items for Sale........ (Gregory Cline)> 20. eBay (Mike Stitt)> 21. AZ Reproducer question (George)> 22. RE: eBay (Douglas Houston)> 23. Re: eBay (Mike Stitt)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:53:47 EST> From: AllenAmet at aol.com> Subject: [Phono-L] valid email?> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <d24.3902bacb.364c9c5b at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > Hi> > I got what seems like a legit email (?), from a phono person (Shawn?), but > thought I would ask first here - this is the text:> > > >> A while back, bluesparkz28963 asked you a question and is waiting for > your answer. Please _view the question_ > (http://optin.fanboxnotes.com/SmoothOptin/Viral/FloatDemo.aspx?srcUser=2NyYg9pt+/e9Hfdp6ex8lA==&cid=29246&AssocData=Yv8t> vE2gPZawhh7w1gLzzQ==&encemail=9ZVkBz969z1Fla3gVL1Ga+GVUgLUa5VG&src=ViralWidget> Email&vet=67&dt=111208&mlid=363395459) and answer it.> It will take just a few seconds, and you can simply answer Yes or No. > from: _QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com_ (mailto:QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com) <<> > Is anyone familiar with this method of contact?> > Thanks.> > Allen> > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:07:29 -0800> From: "Loran T. Hughes" <loran at oldcrank.com>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] valid email?> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID:> <998dac550811121307u173fb50crc2bb9831c09d1671 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Spam, IMHO. Email addresses can be spoofed.Loran> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <AllenAmet at aol.com> wrote:> > > Hi> >> > I got what seems like a legit email (?), from a phono person (Shawn?),> > but> > thought I would ask first here - this is the text:> >> >> > >> A while back, bluesparkz28963 asked you a question and is waiting for> > your answer. Please _view the question_> > (> > http://optin.fanboxnotes.com/SmoothOptin/Viral/FloatDemo.aspx?srcUser=2NyYg9pt+/e9Hfdp6ex8lA==&cid=29246&AssocData=Yv8t> >> > vE2gPZawhh7w1gLzzQ==&encemail=9ZVkBz969z1Fla3gVL1Ga+GVUgLUa5VG&src=ViralWidget> > Email&vet=67&dt=111208&mlid=363395459) and answer it.> > It will take just a few seconds, and you can simply answer Yes or No.> > from: _QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com_ (mailto:QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com)> > <<> >> > Is anyone familiar with this method of contact?> >> > Thanks.> >> > Allen> >> >> > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news &> > more!(> > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:32:20 -0500> From: Steven Medved <steve_noreen at msn.com>> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Clutch shifting lever bracket> To: Phono-l <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <BAY139-W430B825F2A1144B5FDA7A2F6140 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hello Art,> > I really appreciate you letting me know you enjoyed my reply.> > Steve> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:34:05 -0800> From: "Daniel Melvin" <dan at old-phonographs.com>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] valid email?> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID:> <d14f697b0811121434g331cf012xcfb982c9c1d1530d at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > seems a bit iffy to me. I wouldn't click on the link if it were me.> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <AllenAmet at aol.com> wrote:> > > Hi> >> > I got what seems like a legit email (?), from a phono person (Shawn?),> > but> > thought I would ask first here - this is the text:> >> >> > >> A while back, bluesparkz28963 asked you a question and is waiting for> > your answer. Please _view the question_> > (> > http://optin.fanboxnotes.com/SmoothOptin/Viral/FloatDemo.aspx?srcUser=2NyYg9pt+/e9Hfdp6ex8lA==&cid=29246&AssocData=Yv8t> >> > vE2gPZawhh7w1gLzzQ==&encemail=9ZVkBz969z1Fla3gVL1Ga+GVUgLUa5VG&src=ViralWidget> > Email&vet=67&dt=111208&mlid=363395459) and answer it.> > It will take just a few seconds, and you can simply answer Yes or No.> > from: _QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com_ (mailto:QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com)> > <<> >> > Is anyone familiar with this method of contact?> >> > Thanks.> >> > Allen> >> >> > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news &> > more!(> > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:39:40 -0700> From: "Kat Hall" <kathall21 at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] valid email?> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <1BC57B936BF0440BB9977C1CEB147667 at KatHallPC>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > That is junk mail. I have a hotmail account and get tons of that crap from > every dang application that they have. I hit delete and block but they get > a different app and keep sending it through.> > >From the Desk of> Kat Hall> Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher)> Review Coordinator> www.champagnebooks.com> www.carnalpassions.com> www.thewritersvineyard.com> > --------------------------------------------------> From: "Loran T. Hughes" <loran at oldcrank.com>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:07 PM> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] valid email?> > > Spam, IMHO. Email addresses can be spoofed.Loran> >> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM, <AllenAmet at aol.com> wrote:> >> >> Hi> >>> >> I got what seems like a legit email (?), from a phono person (Shawn?),> >> but> >> thought I would ask first here - this is the text:> >>> >>> >> >> A while back, bluesparkz28963 asked you a question and is waiting for> >> your answer. Please _view the question_> >> (> >> http://optin.fanboxnotes.com/SmoothOptin/Viral/FloatDemo.aspx?srcUser=2NyYg9pt+/e9Hfdp6ex8lA==&cid=29246&AssocData=Yv8t> >>> >> vE2gPZawhh7w1gLzzQ==&encemail=9ZVkBz969z1Fla3gVL1Ga+GVUgLUa5VG&src=ViralWidget> >> Email&vet=67&dt=111208&mlid=363395459) and answer it.> >> It will take just a few seconds, and you can simply answer Yes or No.> >> from: _QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com_ (mailto:QuestionIts at fanboxnotes.com)> >> <<> >>> >> Is anyone familiar with this method of contact?> >>> >> Thanks.> >>> >> Allen> >>> >>> >> **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news > >> &> >> more!(> >> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> >> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> >> _______________________________________________> >> Phono-L mailing list> >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >>> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:56:07 +1100> From: "Mario Frazzetto" <marioaf at optusnet.com.au>> Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: "Phonolist" <phonolist at yahoogroups.com>, "Phono-L"> <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <4465660696744A73BF4B0B70A064F1CD at frazzettohome>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi All,> > I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style Victor VI horn machine.> > Could someone please tell me:> > 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual "footprint"> 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard)> > I really need to get accurate dimensions. > > Thanks in advance for your help!> > Cheers,> Mario> > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:59:16 +0000> From: john9ten at pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID:> <1532786956-1226591940-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2134326123- at bxe197.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>> > Content-Type: text/plain> > Sounds like a msterious project is in the works..> John Robles> ------Original Message------> From: Mario Frazzetto> Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org> To: Phonolist> To: Phono-L> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List> Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> Sent: Nov 13, 2008 4:56 AM> > Hi All,> > I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style Victor VI horn machine.> > Could someone please tell me:> > 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual "footprint"> 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard)> > I really need to get accurate dimensions. > > Thanks in advance for your help!> > Cheers,> Mario> _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 8> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:05:33 EST> From: ElCaminoNYC at aol.com> Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph and BGT> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <be8.403b98f5.364de28d at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > Hello all,> > I figured I would post my want list one more time before the holidays in > search of that special gift for ME. > I am looking for a nice Edison Triumph 2/4 machine and/or a Columbia BGT > ---- must have original finish. Looking to put some money in your stocking > before the holidays. If you have a nice piece you are willing to part with > -please contact me off line at:> > _elcaminonyc at aol.com_ (mailto:elcaminonyc at aol.com) > > > Thank you > > > Pete> **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 9> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:20:19 +1100> From: "Mike Tucker" <mtucker at exemail.com.au>> Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Class M> To: "Phono-L Post" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <C6BA3154C1824D17826462507B543F97 at mikefb1afb33f4>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi,> > I would appreciate your posting the following note.> > Mike Tucker> > > A friend and I are in the process of restoring two of the upright coin slots which use the Class M electric motor.> > They are the same as the one described as "Unidentified Class M of about 1905" at page 246 of the latest edition of Frow's cylinder machine book.> > They have the wooden feet instead of the more familiar ball and claw ones and a somewhat similar cabinet to the Majestic.> > I would particularly appreciate any information anyone has as to the correct backboard for these machines (If they had one - our cabinets are in transit, so I can't verify this at the moment), but any information on this or the phonograph generally would be appreciated.> > I can be contacted via Email at trivalue at exemail.com.au > > Thanks, Mike Tucker> > ------------------------------> > Message: 10> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:44:42 EST> From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <cff.446a3b5d.364e15ea at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > IN REGARDS TO DIMENSIONS> you might check with bob baumbach book on the victor data book> it contains all of this i believe or contact bob himself> good luck on the project> > > In a message dated 11/13/2008 8:02:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marioaf at optusnet.com.au writes:> > Hi All,> > I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style Victor VI > horn machine.> > Could someone please tell me:> > 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual "footprint"> 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard)> > I really need to get accurate dimensions. > > Thanks in advance for your help!> > Cheers,> Mario> _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 11> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:52:41 -0500> From: "Mark Lynch" <markelynch at earthlink.net>> Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <380-22008115142524178 at earthlink.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII> > > Greetings,> > Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish found> on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel? > > It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a> plated finish. > > I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or> can refer me to the right person.> > Best Regards,> Mark> Silver Spring, M> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 12> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:16:23 -0500> From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <410-220081151431623812 at earthlink.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII> > The use of gun blue on brass will give a brownish-black finish. Test it on> a scrap of brass and see if it's what you want. > > > > [Original Message]> > From: Mark Lynch <markelynch at earthlink.net>> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> > Date: 11/13/2008 10:04:39 PM> > Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> >> >> > Greetings,> >> > Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish> found> > on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel? > >> > It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a> > plated finish. > >> > I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or> > can refer me to the right person.> >> > Best Regards,> > Mark> > Silver Spring, M> >> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 13> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:16:24 -0600> From: Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <491CFB98.7040801 at octoxol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > The proper finish for the 1b is gunmetal but use wears it off back to > the brass. The Opera is oxidized bronze. I have redone several.> > Rich> > Mark Lynch wrote:> > Greetings,> > > > Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish found> > on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel? > > > > It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a> > plated finish. > > > > I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or> > can refer me to the right person.> > > > Best Regards,> > Mark> > Silver Spring, M> > > > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 14> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:54:08 +1100> From: "Mario Frazzetto" <marioaf at optusnet.com.au>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <A72190DB38284B4CA16E46326DC74C81 at frazzettohome>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Hey John just trying to make a cabinet/stand to suit my Victor 6 (earlier > style) but wanted to make sure both VI's would fit ...> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <john9ten at pacbell.net>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:59 AM> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> > > > Sounds like a msterious project is in the works..> > John Robles> > ------Original Message------> > From: Mario Frazzetto> > Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org> > To: Phonolist> > To: Phono-L> > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List> > Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> > Sent: Nov 13, 2008 4:56 AM> >> > Hi All,> >> > I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style Victor VI > > horn machine.> >> > Could someone please tell me:> >> > 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual "footprint"> > 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard)> >> > I really need to get accurate dimensions.> >> > Thanks in advance for your help!> >> > Cheers,> > Mario> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry> >> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 15> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:27:31 EST> From: ClockworkHome at aol.com> Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Class M> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <d5a.35076e4a.364eac93 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > I hope the list can provide Mike Tucker with the information he needs. > > He sent me some photos of reproduction M electric motors that look perfect in > every detail. He has an extra one for sale and I would endorse it for anyone > missing the original motor. Once installed I doubt you could tell the > difference from an original except for the missing 100+ years of grime. These were > not inexpensive to make in small number but are well worth the price when one > considers the rarity of the M electric phonographs; and, a complete running > machine is vastly desirable over a non-functioning one.> > Best Wishes to all on the list,> > Al> > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 16> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:52:44 -0500> From: "gregory caringi" <drgregc at msn.com>> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <BLU105-F256A03740D72C5BADDDC9EA7160 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed> > Steve Farmer. There is no one better at reproducing the unusual metal > finishes on old Edison and Victor machines. He did a beautiful job > recreating the oxidized copper finish on my Victor R. Contact him at: > farmerized1 at msn.com> > > >From: "Mark Lynch" <markelynch at earthlink.net>> >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> >To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> >Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:52:41 -0500> >> >> >Greetings,> >> >Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish found> >on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel?> >> >It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a> >plated finish.> >> >I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or> >can refer me to the right person.> >> >Best Regards,> >Mark> >Silver Spring, M> >> >_______________________________________________> >Phono-L mailing list> >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 17> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:59:44 EST> From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Help with Opera/1B Mandrel Finish> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org> Message-ID: <c8c.2fa69f32.364ed040 at aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"> > HI> You might also check with steve farmer in oregon or washington state> he redoes a lot of oxidized finishes for restorers> > > > In a message dated 11/13/2008 10:08:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > markelynch at earthlink.net writes:> > > Greetings,> > Does anyone here have experience recreating the brownish-black finish found> on the Edison Opera and Amberola 1B mandrel? > > It appears to be a chemical finish on the brass surface as opposed to a> plated finish. > > I'd be most grateful to talk to someone who has first-hand experience or> can refer me to the right person.> > Best Regards,> Mark> Silver Spring, M> > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt> p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 18> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:49:25 -0800 (PST)> From: john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <307014.70132.qm at web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > I figured it was either that or you needed to replicate something.> Be sure to upload a pic when it is done!> > --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Mario Frazzetto <marioaf at optusnet.com.au> wrote:> > From: Mario Frazzetto <marioaf at optusnet.com.au>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 11:54 AM> > Hey John just trying to make a cabinet/stand to suit my Victor 6 (earlier > style) but wanted to make sure both VI's would fit ...> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <john9ten at pacbell.net>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 2:59 AM> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> > > > Sounds like a msterious project is in the works..> > John Robles> > ------Original Message------> > From: Mario Frazzetto> > Sender: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org> > To: Phonolist> > To: Phono-L> > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List> > Subject: [Phono-L] re Victor VI dimension needed> > Sent: Nov 13, 2008 4:56 AM> >> > Hi All,> >> > I'm after a couple of dimensions of a later (second motor) style> Victor VI > > horn machine.> >> > Could someone please tell me:> >> > 1. Base dimensions - as in the actual "footprint"> > 2. Height (bottom of case to the top of motorboard)> >> > I really need to get accurate dimensions.> >> > Thanks in advance for your help!> >> > Cheers,> > Mario> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry> >> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 19> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:14:31 -0500> From: "Gregory Cline" <gwphonos at woh.rr.com>> Subject: [Phono-L] Items for Sale........> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <521A64A51600460A9AB571CF5FB5122C at GREGG>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > I would like to offer to the list the following items from my collection for> sale or trade. It is time to downsize a bit...some are duplicates, others> I just have run out of room for. Please contact me off list or phone me for> details. (gcline at woh.rr.com 419-424-1201 ) Pictures are available of all> items. All items are available for free delivery to the Stanton Auction> November 21,22. Thanks for looking! Gregg Cline> > > 1. Columbia AS Coin Op. Outstanding original finish. Works great..plays a> record completely, coin op mechanism works perfectly. Great original decal.> Original coin drawer,crank, feet. It has the early tag marked only "S" Sign> board is new but matches very well. Original reproducer with the set screw.> There are a couple of new parts (coin chute, connection from trunion to> post, post and timing gear. The horn is a 14 inch all brass horn with> original elbow with a nice patina. It is a soldered seam between the bell> and cone so it is early. Asking $5500.> > 2. Victor model P-1. This is an outstanding original example. All> original save the turntable felt and brake leather. This is the second> incarnation of this machine and has a unique motor that mounts on the bottom> of the cabinet. The speed control actually has a knob that comes though the> side of the cabinet and a vertical governor assembly. I believe the later P> models are the only Victors to use this motor. It has the oxidized copper> support arm and escutcheons. Finish is good with minor pitting on the> support arm. Wooden traveling arm and a metal elbow horn with nice original> decal and nearly perfect bell with a nice patina. Original Long throat> Exhibition reproducer. Asking $1500> > 3 Zonophone Grand Opera.Late rear mount machine. This is a restored machine> that plays great and presents very well. It has the large all brass> Zonophone horn.. Asking $1500> > 4. Edison Maroon Gem Model D. This is a very nice example, 100% original> including the crane. The horn is a 2 piece Fireside horn with very good> paint. K reproducer. Finish on the wooden cabinet is good but not perfect.> Overall a very nice example. Asking $1400> > > 5 Columbia BWN disc phonograph with outstanding Nickel plated panel horn.> 100% original machine. This machine presents very well with all of the> nickel plating. Great original decal and finish. Asking $1500> > 6. Victor IV with Smooth Music Master mahogany horn. Nice original finish> on the machine, great back bracket with original striping, Horn has original> decal but may have been French polished..Motor runs strong and the machine> plays well. Asking $2500> > 7. Zonophone Concert front mount second style with metal bedplate. This is> 100% original with a 24 inch set up. The support arm, traveling arm, Horn> and Horn elbow are original. Finish is very nice original with original> decals. Reproducer is a late zonophone long throat with the same body as> for the rear mount machine. (similar to a victor exhibition). Asking $2500> > 8. Zonophone Concert Rear Mount with metal bedplate. This is the sister of> the above machine. The Body is identical to the front mount excepth the> crank is on the opposite side and there is a back bracket and tone arm.> This is a 100% original machine as well with the small all brass zonophone> horn and original finish and decals. Asking $1800> > 9. I have several project machines to sell as well..Mostly Floor model> machines including Edison Diamond discs, Victor Victrolas, and a Brunswick> That I will take offers on..If you are interested in projects, let me know> and I will get the details on the machines. I would consider a low> reasonable offer as I will never get to them myself. Even better deal if you> take them all!!!!> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 20> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:57:32 -0800> From: "Mike Stitt" <smstitt at gmail.com>> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID:> <7e8e90ff0811141057m21cd0780l90e8f685c5e8dd08 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at eBay.> I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful purpose. It seems that> buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as I write this is> eBay does not release the seller address unless through Paypal...!! At> least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller (he said no Paypal in> his description).> Starting in January as I understand it any mention of cash, money order and> the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting in 2012 Paypal> will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or more> transactions per year.> > This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much from eBay so I> may stand corrected.> > The question is how will eBay grow and attract more buyers? Will new people> registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't. Many will not.> Of those already registered how many do not do have Paypal. After years of> pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to eBay will they?> How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this in a declining> economy ?> Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l. Use photobucket or> Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just put the link in your> email.> > Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night. Looking for more> thoughts.> Mike> aka Oldcranky> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 21> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:01:50 -0500> From: "George" <victrola at triton.net>> Subject: [Phono-L] AZ Reproducer question> To: "Phono-L" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <28AD3D524DB041D999B074D85349DC24 at VALUEDCB7D4C82>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Can someone please tell me the correct angle for the sapphire on a Columbia AZ with Lyre carriage. I know it should be a Lyric T-1 #9 in Hazelcorn's book. I was hoping an Edison C bar with sapphire would work, but I do not believe it will. A close-up picture would be great if possible.> Does anyone make the correct needle bar for the AZ's Lyric reproducer?> Your welcome to contact me off-list with details> Thank you,> George > victrola at triton.net> -------------- next part --------------> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> Name: George VOLLEMA.vcf> Type: text/x-vcard> Size: 467 bytes> Desc: not available> Url : http://mail.intellitechcomputing.com/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20081114/c7ce748e/GeorgeVOLLEMA-0001.vcf> > ------------------------------> > Message: 22> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:11:41 -0500> From: "Douglas Houston" <cdh041 at earthlink.net>> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] eBay> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID: <410-2200811514191141968 at earthlink.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII> > Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches. PayPal is> their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the sales. It may> be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but considering eBay's> policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz", the notion of any extended> comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled by a seller, and> eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would expect it to be. Whether or> not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They probably> figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain sales levels> strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who don't use Pay Pal.> There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect. Time will tell> > > > [Original Message]> > From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> > Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM> > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay> >> > As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at eBay.> > I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful purpose. It seems that> > buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as I write this is> > eBay does not release the seller address unless through Paypal...!! At> > least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller (he said no Paypal in> > his description).> > Starting in January as I understand it any mention of cash, money order> and> > the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting in 2012 Paypal> > will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or more> > transactions per year.> >> > This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much from eBay so I> > may stand corrected.> >> > The question is how will eBay grow and attract more buyers? Will new> people> > registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't. Many will not.> > Of those already registered how many do not do have Paypal. After years of> > pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to eBay will they?> > How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this in a declining> > economy ?> > Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l. Use photobucket or> > Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just put the link in> your> > email.> >> > Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night. Looking for more> > thoughts.> > Mike> > aka Oldcranky> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 23> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:31:57 -0800> From: "Mike Stitt" <smstitt at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> Message-ID:> <7e8e90ff0811141131rf7777aaya595532875e2429f at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Well on the other hand if you list your Phonos on their adult (porn?) side> you can take a MO.> I'm afraid this P.P only will have be detrimental for collectors. Many folks> may use different venue's such as this to sell. At the end of the day it> should be* your* choice as a buyer or seller to paid anyway you want....> I'd love to see data six months from now on how many have registered as new> and how many have de-registered. Data over say three years. Any bets?> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Douglas Houston <cdh041 at earthlink.net>wrote:> > > Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches. PayPal is> > their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the sales. It may> > be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but considering eBay's> > policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz", the notion of any extended> > comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled by a seller, and> > eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would expect it to be. Whether or> > not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They probably> > figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain sales levels> > strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who don't use Pay Pal.> > There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect. Time will tell> >> >> > > [Original Message]> > > From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>> > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>> > > Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM> > > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay> > >> > > As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at eBay.> > > I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful purpose. It seems> > that> > > buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as I write this> > is> > > eBay does not release the seller address unless through Paypal...!! At> > > least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller (he said no Paypal in> > > his description).> > > Starting in January as I understand it any mention of cash, money order> > and> > > the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting in 2012 Paypal> > > will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or more> > > transactions per year.> > >> > > This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much from eBay so I> > > may stand corrected.> > >> > > The question is how will eBay grow and attract more buyers? Will new> > people> > > registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't. Many will not.> > > Of those already registered how many do not do have Paypal. After years> > of> > > pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to eBay will> > they?> > > How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this in a declining> > > economy ?> > > Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l. Use photobucket> > or> > > Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just put the link in> > your> > > email.> > >> > > Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night. Looking for> > more> > > thoughts.> > > Mike> > > aka Oldcranky> > > _______________________________________________> > > Phono-L mailing list> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 5, Issue 304> ***************************************
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