[Phono-L] eBay

Fri Nov 14 19:56:36 PST 2008

What records are you looking for?  I sold lots that my mother had and I have 
found lots more.  Even one sided ones.  I know that I have even more 
someplace but as I slowly get through everything, I will know exactly what I 
have.

>From the Desk of
Kat Hall
Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher)
Review Coordinator
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From: "buck Buchanan" <ret.armysgt at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:51 PM
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay

> I have been using ebay for a number of years and I have watched the fees 
> climb for the sellers to the point that they have lost many of the dealers 
> that used to be on this website.
> Now that they are forcing them to use Paypal I expect them to lose another 
> 25% of the current sellers. Being an ex-flea market person the profit is 
> very little on this type of a system if your over-head increases and you 
> can't pass it on to the individual that is buying the item then you go out 
> of business.
> I have never used another site for bidding on records and I am also new at 
> collecting records does anybody know another auction website where I can 
> start looking for the older 78's and misc items from the Victorian period?
>
> Thank you
> Bill Buchanan
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/14/08, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 7:51 PM
>
> I can't find that report nor has eBay best I can tell in their boards
> indicate the rational.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com> wrote:
>
>> For those that are real curious as to why eBay has decided that all
>> transactions will be through PayPal, its real simple.  How much money is
>> changing hands through eBay every year? Now, how much sales tax and 
>> income
>> tax is collected from all this $$$?  Our illegitimate uncle in Washington
>> and various state capitols wants their cut of the $$ and the feds have
>> issued regulations that say that if eBay does not report all of these
>> transactions they will be liable for all of the tax due.  This has been
>> reported in the MSM by the way.  Blame the group responsible, its not
> eBay.
>>
>>
>> Daniel Melvin wrote:
>>
>>> I don't sell on ebay but I have bought a number of things on ebay
> and as a
>>> buyer I do prefer using PayPal over all other methods of payment.
> Mostly
>>> is
>>> it easy and it costs me nothing to do. And, the buyer never knows my
>>> credit
>>> card or bank acocunt information. If I weren't so lazy I could
> send
>>> checks,
>>> but it costs 42 cents each and I'm lazy. I just don't like
> doing it. And,
>>> I
>>> don't like strangers having my checking account routing and
> account
>>> numbers.
>>>
>>> I do understand why so many sellers resist it especially when it's
> made
>>> mandatory by ebay. It's a bit kind of expensive on the sellers
> side.
>>> However, on the other hand I usually won't look at an ebay auction
> that
>>> does
>>> not take PayPal. So, I think using PayPal likely ups the audience at
> least
>>> when dealing with people like me. I guess all this is a mute point at
>>> least
>>> for eaby. If you notice now, all sellers have to take PayPal now. The
>>> payment options don't even seem to appear any longer.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Well on the other hand if you list your Phonos on their adult (porn?)
>>>> side
>>>> you can take a MO.
>>>> I'm afraid this P.P only will have be detrimental for
> collectors. Many
>>>> folks
>>>> may use different venue's such as this to sell.  At the end of
> the day it
>>>> should be* your* choice as a buyer or seller to paid anyway you
> want....
>>>> I'd love to see data six months from now on how many have
> registered as
>>>> new
>>>> and how many have de-registered. Data over say three years. Any
> bets?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Douglas Houston
> <cdh041 at earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches.
> PayPal is
>>>>> their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the
> sales. It
>>>>> may
>>>>> be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but
> considering eBay's
>>>>> policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz",
> the notion of any extended
>>>>> comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled
> by a seller,
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would
> expect it to be.  Whether
>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They
> probably
>>>>> figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain
> sales
>>>>>
>>>> levels
>>>>
>>>>> strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who
> don't use Pay
>>>>>
>>>> Pal.
>>>>
>>>>> There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect.
> Time will
>>>>> tell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  [Original Message]
>>>>>> From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>>>> Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at
> eBay.
>>>>>> I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful
> purpose. It seems
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as
> I write this
>>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>> eBay does not release the seller address unless through
> Paypal...!!  At
>>>>>> least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller
> (he said no Paypal
>>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> his description).
>>>>>> Starting in January as I understand it any mention of
> cash, money order
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting
> in 2012
>>>>>>
>>>>> Paypal
>>>>
>>>>> will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or
> more
>>>>>> transactions per year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much
> from eBay so
>>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> may stand corrected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is how will eBay grow and attract more
> buyers? Will new
>>>>>>
>>>>> people
>>>>>
>>>>>> registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't.
> Many will not.
>>>>>> Of those already registered how many do not do have
> Paypal. After years
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>> pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to
> eBay will
>>>>>>
>>>>> they?
>>>>>
>>>>>> How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this
> in a
>>>>>>
>>>>> declining
>>>>
>>>>> economy ?
>>>>>> Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l.
> Use photobucket
>>>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>>> Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just
> put the link in
>>>>>>
>>>>> your
>>>>>
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night.
> Looking for
>>>>>>
>>>>> more
>>>>>
>>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> aka Oldcranky
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