[Phono-L] eBay

Fri Nov 14 16:51:25 PST 2008

I can't find that report nor has eBay best I can tell in their boards
indicate the rational.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com> wrote:

> For those that are real curious as to why eBay has decided that all
> transactions will be through PayPal, its real simple.  How much money is
> changing hands through eBay every year? Now, how much sales tax and income
> tax is collected from all this $$$?  Our illegitimate uncle in Washington
> and various state capitols wants their cut of the $$ and the feds have
> issued regulations that say that if eBay does not report all of these
> transactions they will be liable for all of the tax due.  This has been
> reported in the MSM by the way.  Blame the group responsible, its not eBay.
>
>
> Daniel Melvin wrote:
>
>> I don't sell on ebay but I have bought a number of things on ebay and as a
>> buyer I do prefer using PayPal over all other methods of payment. Mostly
>> is
>> it easy and it costs me nothing to do. And, the buyer never knows my
>> credit
>> card or bank acocunt information. If I weren't so lazy I could send
>> checks,
>> but it costs 42 cents each and I'm lazy. I just don't like doing it. And,
>> I
>> don't like strangers having my checking account routing and account
>> numbers.
>>
>> I do understand why so many sellers resist it especially when it's made
>> mandatory by ebay. It's a bit kind of expensive on the sellers side.
>> However, on the other hand I usually won't look at an ebay auction that
>> does
>> not take PayPal. So, I think using PayPal likely ups the audience at least
>> when dealing with people like me. I guess all this is a mute point at
>> least
>> for eaby. If you notice now, all sellers have to take PayPal now. The
>> payment options don't even seem to appear any longer.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Well on the other hand if you list your Phonos on their adult (porn?)
>>> side
>>> you can take a MO.
>>> I'm afraid this P.P only will have be detrimental for collectors. Many
>>> folks
>>> may use different venue's such as this to sell.  At the end of the day it
>>> should be* your* choice as a buyer or seller to paid anyway you want....
>>> I'd love to see data six months from now on how many have registered as
>>> new
>>> and how many have de-registered. Data over say three years. Any bets?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Douglas Houston <cdh041 at earthlink.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches. PayPal is
>>>> their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the sales. It
>>>> may
>>>> be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but considering eBay's
>>>> policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz", the notion of any extended
>>>> comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled by a seller,
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would expect it to be.  Whether
>>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>> not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They probably
>>>> figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain sales
>>>>
>>> levels
>>>
>>>> strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who don't use Pay
>>>>
>>> Pal.
>>>
>>>> There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect. Time will
>>>> tell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  [Original Message]
>>>>> From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>>> Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay
>>>>>
>>>>> As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at eBay.
>>>>> I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful purpose. It seems
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as I write this
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> eBay does not release the seller address unless through Paypal...!!  At
>>>>> least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller (he said no Paypal
>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>
>>>> his description).
>>>>> Starting in January as I understand it any mention of cash, money order
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting in 2012
>>>>>
>>>> Paypal
>>>
>>>> will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or more
>>>>> transactions per year.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much from eBay so
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>
>>>> may stand corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is how will eBay grow and attract more buyers? Will new
>>>>>
>>>> people
>>>>
>>>>> registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't.  Many will not.
>>>>> Of those already registered how many do not do have Paypal. After years
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to eBay will
>>>>>
>>>> they?
>>>>
>>>>> How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this in a
>>>>>
>>>> declining
>>>
>>>> economy ?
>>>>> Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l. Use photobucket
>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just put the link in
>>>>>
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>>> email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night. Looking for
>>>>>
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> aka Oldcranky
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