[Phono-L] eBay

Fri Nov 14 14:45:57 PST 2008

That is the point of the email. eBay makes the seller take *nothing *but
Paypal. You may find that  those who don't like paypal won't play. You see
my point isn't about eBay and their policy it is about what will happen to a
market that provides a good resource for collectors.
That is to say if forced P.P fees and eBay fees may be high enough to make
others think about not using eBay. Maybe the antique mall or sell at shows
or better yet Craigs list. Further if less new buyers (blood) don't enter
the market and other leave you may see the pickins at eBay  dwindle. Less
choice is never good. BTW I have a Paypal account and I am not comfortable
about it. I rather give a CC number out that has protection than have a
checking account always open to paypal or???? As to the postage stamp in the
world of phonographs no big deal.
Last on those small items like say a crank or a brake or a needle tin, with
PP and eBay fees some may say it is not just worth it...to list...!

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Daniel Melvin <dan at old-phonographs.com>wrote:

> I don't sell on ebay but I have bought a number of things on ebay and as a
> buyer I do prefer using PayPal over all other methods of payment. Mostly is
> it easy and it costs me nothing to do. And, the buyer never knows my credit
> card or bank acocunt information. If I weren't so lazy I could send checks,
> but it costs 42 cents each and I'm lazy. I just don't like doing it. And, I
> don't like strangers having my checking account routing and account
> numbers.
>
> I do understand why so many sellers resist it especially when it's made
> mandatory by ebay. It's a bit kind of expensive on the sellers side.
> However, on the other hand I usually won't look at an ebay auction that
> does
> not take PayPal. So, I think using PayPal likely ups the audience at least
> when dealing with people like me. I guess all this is a mute point at least
> for eaby. If you notice now, all sellers have to take PayPal now. The
> payment options don't even seem to appear any longer.
>
> Dan
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well on the other hand if you list your Phonos on their adult (porn?)
> side
> > you can take a MO.
> > I'm afraid this P.P only will have be detrimental for collectors. Many
> > folks
> > may use different venue's such as this to sell.  At the end of the day it
> > should be* your* choice as a buyer or seller to paid anyway you want....
> > I'd love to see data six months from now on how many have registered as
> new
> > and how many have de-registered. Data over say three years. Any bets?
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Douglas Houston <cdh041 at earthlink.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches. PayPal
> is
> > > their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the sales. It
> may
> > > be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but considering eBay's
> > > policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz", the notion of any
> extended
> > > comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled by a seller,
> > and
> > > eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would expect it to be.
>  Whether
> > or
> > > not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They probably
> > > figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain sales
> > levels
> > > strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who don't use Pay
> > Pal.
> > > There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect. Time will
> tell
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
> > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> > > > Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM
> > > > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay
> > > >
> > > > As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at eBay.
> > > > I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful purpose. It seems
> > > that
> > > > buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as I write
> this
> > > is
> > > > eBay does not release the seller address unless through Paypal...!!
>  At
> > > > least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller (he said no
> Paypal
> > in
> > > > his description).
> > > > Starting in January as I understand it any mention of cash, money
> order
> > > and
> > > > the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting in 2012
> > Paypal
> > > > will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or more
> > > > transactions per year.
> > > >
> > > > This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much from eBay
> so
> > I
> > > > may stand corrected.
> > > >
> > > > The question is how will eBay grow and attract more buyers? Will new
> > > people
> > > > registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't.  Many will not.
> > > > Of those already registered how many do not do have Paypal. After
> years
> > > of
> > > > pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to eBay will
> > > they?
> > > > How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this in a
> > declining
> > > > economy ?
> > > > Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l. Use
> photobucket
> > > or
> > > > Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just put the link
> in
> > > your
> > > > email.
> > > >
> > > > Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night. Looking for
> > > more
> > > > thoughts.
> > > > Mike
> > > > aka Oldcranky
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