After the the spring was replaced with the motor and the horn with a speaker all of the old phonographs and records became either scrap to be sent to Japan or children's toys. This occurred in the time period from the mid 30s to the late 40s. I have heard many stories retelling playing with these machines. By the early 50s toys had become big business and playing with old anything was out. Robert Wright wrote: > Good points, Rich, especially about improper storage. Out of the sleeve > and lying in any kind of humidity equals a ruined DD even without any > play. I don't know what this says about me, but the thought of someone > playing a DD with a steel needle on a lateral machine has always made my > stomach hurt. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shellac records and damage from steel needles > > >> As to DD life. There are a lot of original DD reproducers with quite >> serviceable reproducers containing period stylus bars and diamonds. >> The original diaphragms are shot but the diamond is good. Yes, some >> are chipped or show wear but the majority I have looked at are in OK >> condition. Most of the trashed DDs are the result of being played by >> children with a steel needle. Most DDs are destroyed by improper >> storage, not use. Look at a period very popular record and you see >> the extent of normal wear of the period. >> >> Robert Wright wrote: >>> Oh Greg, >>> I have a thousand things to pick your brain about (I knew about CED >>> being a vertical modulation and would LOVE to get into finer details >>> of it with you, as I'm an "obsolete technology" junkie across the >>> board)! >> <SNIP> >>> >>> ... but I wonder just how many times a new DD could be played by a >>> new stylus in a DD phono before audible wear would appear. Would >>> they really wear the diamond out first? >>> >>> Thanks for all your invested time and shared wisdom, Greg. >>> >>> Best, >>> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >