[Phono-L] re Opera gone

Rich rich-mail at octoxol.com
Sat Jan 5 19:17:51 PST 2008


Reverse lookup provides more insight.

  (408) 666-5948 is Unpublished or Unavailable

(408) 666-5948
Provider: Blue Licenses Holding, Llc
Location: San Jose:West Da, CA

This is probably a cell phone number and is now switched off with the 
battery pulled.

If I were the high bidder in that auction when it was shutdown I would 
have eBay on the phone, 888-749-3229 or 800-322-9266, the California 
Attorney General, and the meanest - nastest - lawyer I could find.  I 
will bet that California has several pounds of laws and regulations 
relating to auctions.

Peter Fraser wrote:
> well, here's his phone number:  408.666.5948 - not sure what his name is.
> 
> i'm sure if enough of you bug him he'll eventually tell the story to one 
> of you...
> 
> On Jan 5, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Mario Frazzetto wrote:
> 
>> Any guesstimates on what this example would have gone for? I was the 
>> high bidder for most of it and including when it was cancelled and was 
>> going to of course bput a last second bid in...
>>
>> Mario
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" 
>> <pjfraser at alamedanet.net>
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone
>>
>>
>>> this guy's obviously a rookie at ebay, and not a phono collector.   
>>> he's also local to me.  quite frankly, this sort of thing is the 
>>> only  way somebody like me could afford to acquire an Opera...to 
>>> contact him directly and swoop in and pull it out from under the 
>>> auction.  fair? perhaps not...but if he's going to dip into the 
>>> marketplace without  doing homework, which is soooo easy to do these 
>>> days - and we know he  has a computer and we know he knows what ebay 
>>> is - well, maybe he  deserves to sell at less than optimal price.  no 
>>> need to pity him.
>>>
>>> i saw this auction early, and asked offline for his phone number in  
>>> the hopes i could inspect, and maybe dazzle him with cash and grab 
>>> it  for less than $3000.  by the time he got back to me it was 
>>> already up  past $4k so i cancelled the visit.  but it sat around 
>>> that price all  week and so he got cold feet and probably took $5k or 
>>> so from someone  like me but with deeper pockets.
>>>
>>> nothing wrong or immoral about any of this, in my opinion - it's his  
>>> to sell at whatever price he wants, ebay auction notwithstanding.
>>>
>>> On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM, George Glastris wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree it is totally wrong and very stupid.
>>>> I sell a lot on Ebay, many things that I have no idea of their  
>>>> value. I'm always getting offers to sell offline.  I've been  
>>>> offered many hundreds even thousands for items which I start at  
>>>> $9.99 and no reserve. I've never accepted them and have never  
>>>> regreted it as the final bid is always over the offer.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Can he really do that without some kind of penalty or banishment  
>>>>> from Ebay? Seems sort of underhanded. Can you imagine putting an  
>>>>> item on consignment at a local gallery, and then going to the  
>>>>> auction to view it. After the bidding starts someone who 
>>>>> recognizes  the item as yours, finds you in the crowd and offers 
>>>>> you $2000.00  for the item if you agree to pull the item right now 
>>>>> . How  possitively sleezy and unfair that would be. What makes this 
>>>>> any  different?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com>
>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under  
>>>>>> the table offer that is very attractive and accepts it.  With FB  
>>>>>> showing more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay  
>>>>>> selling that would b my guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mario Frazzetto wrote:
>>>>>>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! 
>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205
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