In a message dated 1/5/2008 3:32:01 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, esroberto at hotmail.com writes: Hi Art, I've had a lot of luck with calling an inexperienced seller after the auction closes but before payment is sent (or sometimes before the auction closes) and providing explicit instructions (often walking them through it on the phone), assuring them this is a tricky item and lots of perfectly good packing jobs end up destroying them. So far every seller to a person has been thankful for the help and advice. You can often tell how receptive they'd be by the tone of their email contact. Best, Robert Thanks Robert, But I like dealing with phonograph people best. ---Art **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489