Bruce, Please let me know what country your writing from so I can move there cause it sounds like a great place. Me, I live in the United States, where the almighty buck rules. Ebay is the temple of greed for the congregation of the gullible. I've seen this scenario played out so many times that I usually write down how long I think it will be before the item gets pulled. I once bought something that went too cheap and the guy sent me my check back saying that the item was damaged by accident. I know that he got an "offer he could not refuse". I try not to buy anything on there anymore. The last phonograph that I bought I got from a well known collector and got screwed anyway. Live and learn. There are much more important things to worry about. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > Yes, I agree, but what we are talking about here is a legal contract that > has been broken between Ebay and the Seller, and the person who breaks the > contract knows that, and the collector urging him to sell to him and pull > the goods off the ebay auction knows that is well. That is why to a > certain extent, both are guitly of behavior that is not in any way shape > or form on the up and up. Sure, I can see how it happens, but we live in > society of "laws" not men (ever hear that one before?) where conduct in > business matters have certain rules that have to be followed, and believe > it or not that includes the selling of something that you may really, > really, really, want, and must have, but for god sake if you want it, get > in line and follow the law and the rules like the rest of us honest hard > working souls who want that rare baby just as much as you do, but have the > good sense to play ball by the rules!!