this guy's obviously a rookie at ebay, and not a phono collector. he's also local to me. quite frankly, this sort of thing is the only way somebody like me could afford to acquire an Opera...to contact him directly and swoop in and pull it out from under the auction. fair? perhaps not...but if he's going to dip into the marketplace without doing homework, which is soooo easy to do these days - and we know he has a computer and we know he knows what ebay is - well, maybe he deserves to sell at less than optimal price. no need to pity him. i saw this auction early, and asked offline for his phone number in the hopes i could inspect, and maybe dazzle him with cash and grab it for less than $3000. by the time he got back to me it was already up past $4k so i cancelled the visit. but it sat around that price all week and so he got cold feet and probably took $5k or so from someone like me but with deeper pockets. nothing wrong or immoral about any of this, in my opinion - it's his to sell at whatever price he wants, ebay auction notwithstanding. On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM, George Glastris wrote: > I agree it is totally wrong and very stupid. > I sell a lot on Ebay, many things that I have no idea of their > value. I'm always getting offers to sell offline. I've been > offered many hundreds even thousands for items which I start at > $9.99 and no reserve. I've never accepted them and have never > regreted it as the final bid is always over the offer. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > > >> Can he really do that without some kind of penalty or banishment >> from Ebay? Seems sort of underhanded. Can you imagine putting an >> item on consignment at a local gallery, and then going to the >> auction to view it. After the bidding starts someone who recognizes >> the item as yours, finds you in the crowd and offers you $2000.00 >> for the item if you agree to pull the item right now . How >> possitively sleezy and unfair that would be. What makes this any >> different? >> >> Bruce >> >> Bruce >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >> >> >>> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under >>> the table offer that is very attractive and accepts it. With FB >>> showing more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay >>> selling that would b my guess. >>> >>> Mario Frazzetto wrote: >>>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>> 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org