[Phono-L] Portable phonos

Greg Bogantz gbogantz1 at charter.net
Tue Feb 5 14:51:32 PST 2008


Hi Robert,  Thanks for your confidence, but I don't have personal experience 
with this machine.  It is a Columbia 161 and uses what appears to be the #15 
Viva-Tonal reproducer.  I'm sure it probably sounds better than other, 
earlier portables, but I sincerely doubt that the audio clip that you 
reference was actually recorded from this machine.  That clip has all the 
characteristics of a playback with a modern hifi phono cartridge.  In 
particular, there is no midrange peakiness which is still characteristic of 
all acoustic reproducers that I know of.  And the bass is far more extended 
than I've heard come from any acoustic reproducer played thru a horn, 
including the biggest exponential horns.  Even if the recording was made by 
sticking the microphone well down inside the horn of an acoustic player, I 
don't thing the bass would be this good and the midrange would certainly be 
honkier than what we hear in this clip.  I've been wrong plenty of times, 
but I still doubt that this recording was made from this machine.

Greg Bogantz



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Wright" <esroberto at hotmail.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Herzog Peg Layout


> Only rule I can think of is never trust the original handle!  I've always 
> liked the Victor Orthophonic suitcase models, but there's a Columbia 
> Viva-Tonal model out there that sounds almost hi-fi, like a Credenza. 
> Anyone know which one I'm talking about?  Here's a pic:
>
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jlf/pho/18.jpg
>
> And here's the page associated with the pic, with a sound clip of it 
> playing.
>
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jlf/enphonos.htm
>
> I don't know how this gent mic'd the phono or anything, but the bottom end 
> on this machine appears to be pretty amazing.  Where's Greg Bogantz?  I 
> bet he knows about this machine.
>
> Best,
> Robert
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thatcher Graham" <thatcher at mediaguide.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Herzog Peg Layout
>
>
>> And while I'm tapping the great knowledge bank that is the phonolist, are 
>> there any basic rules of thumb be applied to buying a portable 
>> phonograph? What types of problems are common/endemic to certain models?
>> What's impossible to repair and should be inspected before purchase?
>> What's a generally good make/model? etc
>>
>>
>>
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