[Phono-L] Early Edison DD take numbers and other questions...

[BruceY]

Congratulations Glen, that appears to be a really early find of Edison DD's 
with boxes and binders. I picked up some DD's years ago that were in binders 
also 10 records per, but they say "Edison Recreations" on the front and also 
have gold letters on the top of the back binder, along with a metal pull and 
again the words Edison Re-Creations right under the Gold Letter. Your's 
appear to be much earlier.

Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glenn Longwell" <majesticrecord at snet.net>
To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] Early Edison DD take numbers and other questions...


Hi Folks,
I hit the Edison jackpot this weekend. I came home with about 115 Edison 
records. Twenty four of them were in original Edison boxes, one needle type 
and a Let Us Not Forget. In all, a good day!
There were some interesting peculiarities about the bunch though which leads 
to some questions.
I haven't looked at all Edison DDs in the past but I've only ever seen take 
letters after the matrix number. I pulled out several of these early ones 
from the boxes and I see take numbers. I checked them against a DD 
spreadsheet I have (don't remember who sent it to me but it's a "complete" 
list of takes and matrix numbers) and only take letters are listed for these 
records, not numbers. Is it possible these are different takes or perhaps my 
take 2 is actually considered B? I don't have doubles of any of these to 
compare.
Another peculiarity is 6 discs (not in boxes) that have the Explanatory talk 
by Harry Humphrey on the L side. However, they don't have the engraved 
label, it's blank. The matrix number and take letter are there but no label. 
Could these be early pressings they were trying to get out the door so quick 
they didn't finish engraving the mold?
50 of the records came in thick binders (10 records to a binder) that say 
"Edison Records" in the spine. I'm positive they weren't made by Edison as 
there's no Edison company info on it anywhere but found it interesting as 
I'd never seen binders before specifically for Edison DDs.
The last peculiarity I've seen before. A one sided DD that should have a 
second side but it's blank. It's supposed to have the Explanatory Talk on 
the other side. It's 82521. I'm guessing again that this was an issue of 
needing to get it out the door quickly before the other side was done.
For those that are interested for discographic reasons I'd be happy to put 
together a spreadsheet of these early ones with matrix and take numbers for 
comparison. Just let me know.
I've also noted that the boxes come in two colors, green for the 80000 
series and blue for the 82000 and 82500 series. Did the 50000 series ever 
have boxes as well? If so, what color were the boxes? Were there any other 
colors used?
Lastly, is there a record considered to be the first released DD?
Thanks,
Glenn
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