They bring $500. I will send you a checkl. LOL, just kidding - I saw one at the CAPS show this year, I believe it was a high price but I am sorry I can't remember. I think it was $2500 or more though. Anyone else who was there remember?? John Robles Stephen and Michelle Steenhuizen <steeny1 at optusnet.com.au> wrote: Hello all There have been a few of these on or auctioned through ebay recently of which all have brought a reasonable amount. All had the music box mechanism. What my question is. How much less do they bring when they don't have the added music box and only the gramophone mechanics. regards Stephen Steenhuizen _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org