That depression on the reverse is the smoking gun - - proving it to indeed be a product of the Universal Talking Machine Company.? I have a few of these myself, and the record material is quite good - better than the Duranoid product.? I wrote an article in the "Sound Box" a year ago that showed one of these pirated Berliners along with its legitimate Berliner pressing (0123: "The Shadows On The Door"). George Paul ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com