[Phono-L] a-250 pictures URL

Peter Fraser pjfraser at alamedanet.net
Mon Jun 25 19:37:30 PDT 2007


guys, just copy-paste the thing into your browser, if it isn't  
clickable.  don't try to type anything unless you're paying attention  
to the details.

or if your mail client has cut the thing into multiple lines and you  
can't manually re-assemble it, try this shortened version:

http://tinyurl.com/2vxl8c

in any case, it will challenge you for a password, and you should  
paste or type this:

pook2e

in that field.

if you still can't get it, you'll need to send me a plane ticket and  
your street address.

-- peter

On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:09 AM, bruce78rpm wrote:

> http://homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/phono/photoalbum233.html
>
> This is the address I used to try and enter the site where I could  
> see the difference in the corners of the bedplate between new and  
> old versions. Does this look correct or is there a mistake in it. I  
> would like to complete the survey and put it to rest but the  
> website keeps telling me that there is no homepage associated with  
> it. Thanks,
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:50 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Tone modulator lever variant on A-series
>
>
>> Hi Bruce ~
>> I wasn't aware that the more common horizontal slide was available  
>> on  the A-250.
>>
>> I don't actually know one way or the other, but I would have  
>> assumed  that the more commonly seen horizontal lever style wasn't  
>> used until  after the standardization following the factory fire  
>> and would have  thought that this didn't appear until the machine  
>> was renamed B-250.
>>
>> When you mention having  seen later examples of the A-250 with  
>> the  later style tone lever, are you sure that these were A and  
>> not B  series machines?  Anyone out there have an A-250 with a  
>> horizontal  tone modulator lever?
>>
>> The tone modulator on my later A-250 serial number 13417 is the  
>> same  as yours; i.e. it lifts straight up and can be leaned to the  
>> left to  reduce interference with the lid.  What's interesting  
>> about learning  that your serial number 10248 machine also has  
>> this feature, is the  fact that our machines are some three- 
>> thousand (3,169) numbers apart,  and yet they both have the tone  
>> modulator.  If the source information  that Frow used on the date  
>> of introduction of this feature (November  1914) is correct, and  
>> your machine was made (for example) the first  week of November,  
>> and mine the first week of December, and the  factory burned on  
>> Dec 9, this would tell us that the production per  day of the  
>> A-250 was approximately 105 machines.
>>
>> This assumes that the November date of introduction of the  
>> modulator (which is not given in Frow) was near the beginning of  
>> the month, and that the production had achieved 105 machines per  
>> day of that one  model by late 1914.
>>
>> If this daily output of A-250's matches up more or less with   
>> established data, then we can really pinpoint the date of  
>> manufacture  of any A-250 equipped this way to within a week or  
>> two in 1914.  This  also assumes factory equipped and not  
>> retrofitted.
>>
>> Does anyone out there have a sense of whether this daily  
>> production quantity is realistic at that time?  Any other comments  
>> about this?
>>
>> Best,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2007, at 8:14 AM, bruce78rpm wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew, you may be already aware of this, but here goes. I   
>>> believe there were variants of the tone modulator on the A-250,  
>>> my  Model (Serial Number 10248) has the control lever which  
>>> pushes up  and down (obviously an early design). I have seen  
>>> other later  examples of the A-250 that have the improved and  
>>> much more common  tone modulator control that slides from left to  
>>> right. I wonder how  long the earlier vertical control design  
>>> lasted? On the earlier  design, it has a flexible screw attached  
>>> to the bottom of the  control handle so if you raise the handle  
>>> all the way (maximum  volume) you can still push the handle out  
>>> of the way to the left,  so it won't scrap against a lowered lid.  
>>> You may want to include  these two tone control options in your  
>>> survey.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Bruce
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