[Phono-L] Clarification of web photos relating to the "Official" Questionnaire

Andrew Baron andy at popyrus.com
Mon Jun 25 15:39:38 PDT 2007


Hi Bruce (and all who are looking at the pictures):

The horn, crank and reproducer that you see on that web page are from  
a different source, a different machine.  (Not to make it confusing),  
but they're there as part of the discussion about metal finishes,  
unrelated to the A-250 thread.

I have an original reproducer (2nd type, not first), in the lovely  
black box, that I'm reasonaby certain is original to that box.  I has  
the separate stylus bar mounting plate and is serial number 42392.   
The box is fine inside, but outside it's pretty tired, and the label  
on the bottom is nearly gone.  I can see a "707" on the bottom part,  
but not much else.

Bruce, would you be willing to make a photocopy or scan of that  
bottom label for me?

Thanks,
Andy




On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:29 PM, bruce78rpm wrote:

> I am assuming, based on the photos that there was a hardware  
> variant as well with the A-250's, as my model has a gold plated  
> Diamond disc. reproducer and hardware, while the one in the photos  
> is not, and is presumably the early issue. and how about the horn?  
> The size is obviously the same on all 250's but what about the  
> color? Mine is a very attractive sort of streaked light and dark  
> mock wood grain on the inside of the large horn. Were there any  
> other colors issued. Also how long did Edison Offer the reproducer  
> in its own fancy spring loaded, black leather box, with purple felt  
> lining, molded so that the reproducer fits perfectly into it. On  
> the bottom of the box is the Patent information with a date of  
> March 11, 1913. I was fortunate that the party from which I  
> acquired my A-250 had also  saved this unique Edison reproducer Box  
> for all those years. Oddly, they always used the machine to play  
> standard 78rpm records with a conversion tone arm and victor gold  
> reproducer. When I asked about the Edison reproducer, they seemed  
> confused but then said. "Oh, you must mean that odd looking thing  
> in the black box over here. We have never used that"
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <msprinzen at juno.com>
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison  
> discphonographs
>
>
> Funny... worked just fine for me, and I'm using a PC.
>
> -- "bruce78rpm" <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:
> I concur, I typed in the address as given, and it took me to Mac  
> where I
> entered the password, but it said that the user didn't exist or  
> something
> like that.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles"  
> <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison
> discphonographs
>
>
>> I can't get to that homepage..maybe it is because I have an evil  
>> PC and the
>> page is supported by Mac..LOL
>>
>> bruce78rpm <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron"
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
>>
>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:41 AM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison disc
>> phonographs
>>
>>
>>
>> To see early vs. late details, Refer to photos posted on: (type)
>> http:// (then:) homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/phono/PhotoAlbum233 (and
>> finally:) .html
>>
>> Directions from Peter Fraser on accessing these photos:
>> the password is "pook2e" (no quotes).
>>
>> For large-scale versions of the pix, use the slideshow button, or
>> single-click the individual shot in which you're interested.
>>
>> THE QUESTIONNAIRE:
>> 1) Model number: ( A-250):
>> 1a) Serial number: (SM-10248
>> 1b) Serial number stamped on bedplate, under platter, if different:
>> (_____ A1);
>> 2) Type of start/stop levers: Late - non adjustable stop
>> position);
>> 3) Bedplate corner detail: (Early / Late) ??; I can't enter the  
>> website
>> you
>> gave to see the diffences
>> 4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: (2);
>> 5) Tone modulator Present? (yes - vertical early design);
>> 6) Type of key escutcheon: (Without nail holes)
>> 7) Depth inside the upper groove that accommodates top of grill:
>> (1/4")
>> 7a) grill top & bottom
>> width 3/4" smooth?;
>> 7b) Thickness of fretwork portion of grill: (1/4)
>> 7c) Overall height of outer grill frame: (13 3/4)
>> 8) Louvres on cabinet ( no);
>> 9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: (1)
>> 10) Form 632 present? (yes)
>> 10a) Location of Form 632: (inside of back door)
>> 10b) Printer's date at bottom of Form 632: 4/3/14
>> 11) Latest patent date on dataplate: ( 3-11-13 )
>> 12 Other notes: (Any additional information of interest);
>> 13) Owner : Bruce R. Young
>>
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