(report on 3 machines) Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire forearly Edison disc phonographs

bruce78rpm bruce78rpm at comcast.net
Mon Jun 25 07:14:59 PDT 2007


Hi Andrew, you may be already aware of this, but here goes. I believe there 
were variants of the tone modulator on the A-250, my Model (Serial Number 
10248) has the control lever which pushes up and down (obviously an early 
design). I have seen other later examples of the A-250 that have the 
improved and much more common tone modulator control that slides from left 
to right. I wonder how long the earlier vertical control design lasted? On 
the earlier design, it has a flexible screw attached to the bottom of the 
control handle so if you raise the handle all the way (maximum volume) you 
can still push the handle out of the way to the left, so it won't scrap 
against a lowered lid. You may want to include these two tone control 
options in your survey.

Best Regards,

Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: (report on 3 machines) Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire 
forearly Edison disc phonographs


Here is the data on my 3 A-series Edison Disc Phonographs; two A-250
and one A-200.

1) Model number: A-250
1a) Serial number: SM-13417.
1b) Serial number of bedplate if different: 12033-A1.
2) Type of start/stop levers: Late - non adjustable stop position.
3) Bedplate corner detail: LATE.
4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: 1.
5) Tone modulator Present? YES.
6) Type of key escutcheon: With nail holes - surface mount.
7) Depth of upper groove that accommodates grill frame:1/2”.
7a) No tongue; grille top & bottom width 3/4” smooth.
7b) Thickness of fretwork portion of grill: 3/8” .
7c) Overall height of outer grill frame:13 7/8”.
8) Louvres on cabinet as per Amberola 1? NO.
9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: 2.
10) Form 632 present? YES.
10a) Location of Form 632: Floor of horn compartment.
10b) Printer’s date at bottom of Form 632: 8-20-14.
11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 3-11-13.
12) Other notes: There’s a 2nd paper affixed to floor of horn chamber
by two tacks, measuring 2 1/2” x 1 1/8”, printed with “No: 13417,
Disc Phonograph, Model A-250”.
13) Owner: Andrew Baron.

1) Model number: A-250
1a) Serial number: SM-1429.
1b) Serial number of bedplate if different: SAME.
2) Type of start/stop levers: Early - adjustable stop position.
3) Bedplate corner detail: Early.
4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: 2.
5) Tone modulator Present? NO.
6) Type of key escutcheon: NO nail holes.
7) Depth of upper groove that accommodates grill frame:1/4”.
7a) UNKNOWN - MISSING.
7b) Thickness of fretwork portion of grill: 5/16” (Based on remnants
found).
7c) Overall height of outer grill frame: UNKNOWN - MISSING.
8) Louvres on cabinet as per Amberola 1? NO.
9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: 1.
10) Form 632 present? YES.
10a) Location of Form 632: INSIDE BACK DOOR.
10b) Printer’s date at bottom of Form 632: 11-20-12.
11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 8-26-11 (Unsure of the 6 in 26).
12) Other notes: NONE.
13) Owner: Andrew Baron.

1) Model number: A-200
1a) Serial number: SM-4646.
1b) Serial number of bedplate if different: SAME.
2) Type of start/stop levers: Late - non adjustable stop position.
3) Bedplate corner detail: LATE.
4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: 2.
5) Tone modulator Present? NO.
6) Type of key escutcheon: NO nail holes.
7) Depth of upper groove that accommodates grill frame:9/32”.
7a) UNKNOWN - MISSING.
7b) UNKNOWN - MISSING.
7c) UNKNOWN - MISSING.
8) Louvres on cabinet as per Amberola 1? N/A.
9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: 3
10) Form 632 present? YES.
10a) Location of Form 632: Inside back door.
10b) Printer’s date at bottom of Form 632: NONE.
11) Latest patent date on dataplate: 3-11-13.
12) Other notes: NONE
13) Owner: Andrew Baron._______________________________________________
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