In a message dated 6/19/2007 6:48:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce78rpm at comcast.net writes: sorry, that is just my modesty shining through!! Bruce STILL hasn't told you in his reply ;-) But it's Bruce YOUNG and his story of finding the cylinders is in the June issue of "In The Groove. Steve (Ramm <g>) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.