It has been my observation that collectors value Electrolas slightly less than the same thing in a spring driven model. For example, it seems like most collectors would rather have a spring driven VV-XVIII over one with the electric motor even though the spring driven examples are much more common. Why is that? When it come to Triumphs, an electric Alva is worth about ten times a spring driven Triumph. Why? I wonder if part of the reason is because there is more distinction in the Edison line because the Alva was marketed as a separate and distinct model. The electric motor was offered as an option within the model even though on is marked "VE" and the other "VV". Any thoughts? Jerry Blais __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com