[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

Ron L lherault at bu.edu
Tue Jan 2 12:42:53 PST 2007


Here is what our resident materials guy had to say about the brass/steel
issue.

"Can't believe that no lube is less wear than with lube.
There are a few reasons for using brass against steel.  If the steel part is
difficult to replace, then the brass is the "sacrificial" part and is the
easier to replace; e.g. the steel gear is a single part of a motor drive,
like a worm gear is the threaded end of a motor shaft.
Also, with different materials, there is essentially no chance of "galling"
(sticking) of the materials in the event that the lube disappears.  However,
when the lube is gone, I bet that the brass gear will soon disappear.
Also, with different materials, the larger part is made of the softer
material, and the smaller part of the harder material; this tends to wear
both parts at nearly the same rate."

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

Try this then.  Why do you suppose that The Edison Co. went to all of the
trouble to build motors 
where there was a brass gear meshed with a steel gear?  It is not an
accident.  Look at any Edison 
motor.  This dissimilar metal mesh cost a lot of money to manufacture.

Rich

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:21:09 -0500, Ron L wrote:

>I can agree with the possibility of dirt getting in grease and causing wear
>but I'm not sure about the "self lubricating" aspect of this post.  Anyone
>else want to weigh in on this?

>Ron L

>-----Original Message-----
>From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On
>Behalf Of Rich
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:00 PM
>To: Antique Phonograph List
>Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

>Brass gears meshed with steel gears should never be greased or heavily
>lubricated.  They are self 
>lubricating.  Any extra lube will hold dirt which will imbed into the brass
>which will result in excessive 
>wear on the harder (steel) gear.  If you van see of feel the lubricant then
>there is way too much.

>Rich


>On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:46:15 -0500, Ron L wrote:

>>How are the rubber mounts between bedplate and motor, and between upper
>>works and bedplate?   Are the gears lightly greased or just oiled?  Have
>the
>>conical bearings on the mandrel shaft ever been disturbed, especially
>turned
>>and/or moved in or out?



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