True, but at least with Paypal you have some insurance. If I send a cashier's check and get nothing in return, I am stuck. If I use paypal I get insurance. KEEPERH2O at aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/13/2007 8:24:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, john9ten at pacbell.net writes: I don't take any seller seriously who doesn't have PayPal by now, anyway. Not a bit snobby? I don't use pay pal when occasionally into e-bay to buy or sell something. I got scared away by too many spammy scams while I used Pay Pal and would just as soon send and receive real money. There are a few ways to know if someone is a square dealer. Useing Pay Pal should not have to be one of them. My two dollars' worth, : ) Edward _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org