linoleum is also made of linseed, and is extremely durable for an organic material... On Aug 14, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Walt wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > The Crane Brothers of Westfield, Massachusetts are indeed the > manufacturer. > I have a "Linenoid" horn that is very dark blue (inside and out) > with three > gold bands that run around circumference. (I think Tim Fabrizio may > have > seen mine when he was here in the spring. Uncle Tim?) > > There is one example of a "Linenoid" horn pictured on page 20 of > "Antique > Phonographs ~ Gadgets, Gizmos, and Gimmicks" by Uncle Tim > (Fabrizio) and > Uncle George (Paul). > > The horn that I have is not shaped exactly like the one in the > book. Mine is > a bit shorter but has a somewhat truer exponential shape which > makes the > bell significantly larger in diameter for its length when compared > to the > more traditional horns. > > The horns are supposedly made of pure linen. Mine has a few nicks > like the > one in the Gizmos book and I can substantiate that it is indeed > linen. Linen > is derived from flax (also called linseed) and it is easy to weave > into a > fabric or it can be made into a pulp from which (typically) fine > papers and > fiber board can be made. I don't think that the term "cardboard" is > at all > inappropriate although it is really more of a "fancy" or "super > cardboard" > <grin>. > > I do not know how common these are. Perhaps Tim or George might > have some > additional statistical data than the book shows. I suspect that > they are > probably not classified as scarce or rare, but because they are > made of an > organic vegetable fiber, I would think that a very low percentage > of the > originals are still in existence. I know I will probably hang on to > mine. > Gizmo's suggests that the value is in the $100 to $150 range. I cannot > affirm or deny that value since mine was sort of free. > > BTW, I searched the US Patent database but did not see any > applications > filed by "Crane Brothers" of Westfield, Massachusetts. It seems > that similar > horns were made by a multitude of companies. > > Walt > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l- > bounces at oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of bruce78rpm at comcast.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:39 PM > To: PHONO-L at Oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Linenoid horn > > > This afternoon I visited a gentlemans house in another town to pick > up a > victor horn that I purchased. While there I spotted an unusual But > very > impressive horn that I had never seen before. The gentleman said > that he > purchased it with an Edison triumph machine years ago. It was large > and > black on the outside and light red on the inside and made from a > material > which was kind of a cross between light wood and heavy cardboard, but > extremely resilient. The little logo on the horn said "Linenoid > Horn". it > was not shaped like any horn I had ever seen before either and its > bell was > slightly conical rather then bell like. THIS HORN COULD OBVIOUSLY > EITHER > HANG FROM A FLOOR CRANE OR FROM A CRANE ATTACHED TO THE TRIUMPH. > HAS ANYONE > EVER SEEN OR HEARD OF ONE OF THESE BEFORE. I GOOGLED LINENOID, AND > THE ONLY > THING I COULD FIND IS THAT A COMPANY CALLED CRANE BROTHERS, WHO > MADE PAPER > PRODUCTS IN THE 19TH AND EARLY 20TH CENTURY AND LOCATED IN DALTON, > MASSACHUSETTS IN THE WESTERN PART OF TH > E ST > ATE, USED A PROCESS TO MAKE LINEN WASTE INTO A PRODUCT CALLED > LINENOID, FROM > WHICH they MADE MANY PRACTICAL ITEMS, AND I ASSUME THAT PHONOGRAPH > HORNS > Were AMONG THEM. VERY FASCINATING. IF ANYONE CAN ADD TO THIS, AND > HAS EVER > SEEN ONE OF THESE HORNS PLEASE REPLY. I WILL TRY TO GET BACK TO > THIS FELLOWS > HOUSE SOON AND TAKE A DIGITAL OF THIS HORN FOR ALL TO SEE. IF IT IS > RARE, > MAYBE I CAN MAKE A TRADE > > BRUCE > __._,_.___ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: > 8/13/2007 > 10:15 AM > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org