The real sad news is that IE-7 and Vista offer no improvement on the present situation. Most people who end up with an infected computer have absolutely no idea how to install an alternative to either internet explorer or either outlook let alone how to keep all of the other deadly windows "features" from running quietly in the background. Nor do they have any idea how to find someone who can help them. Rich On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:11:34 -0800, Peter Fraser wrote: >sure there were a few Mac virii back in the Jurassic era, but I >haven't used Hypercard for at least a decade, and thus feel safe. It >took Gates and crew to truly inspire the scriptkiddies to their >current heights of achievement! is the number of windoze virii in >the tens of thousands, or the hundreds of thousands now? >your basic advice is extremely sound - if you don't feel like >spending $600 on a new Mac (firewall built into the OS, standard, >btw), at least chuck anything with the name "Outlook" in its title, >for safety as well as ease of use. >-- peter