[Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 3, Issue 198

JOHN J GUTHRIE jjguthrie at verizon.net
Sun Aug 20 14:30:35 PDT 2006


Among my ever-growing pile of post-it notes I found a reference to 
"epj24",with a notation that it was a source of repro victrola cabinets and 
horns. I am having difficulty accessing that address,and am wondering if you 
could point me in his/her/its direction,or provide a reference to a source 
offering similar services.
Many thanks,
John Guthrie
Franklin,MA
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>   1. Re: FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
>      Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s? (Robert Wright)
>   2. Edison C-1 and C-2 Pickup (Bruce Mercer)
>   3. Re: Proper weight for Edison reproducer in radio/phonograph
>      (eug4not)
>   4. Re: FW: Question for item #180019231614 - PerryComo-RCAVictor
>      Phonograph- early 1900s? (Walt Sommers)
>   5. Re: FW: Question for item #180019231614 -PerryComo-RCAVictor
>      Phonograph- early 1900s? (Mgraziano1)
>   6. Re: FW: Question for item #180019231614 - PerryComo-RCAVictor
>      Phonograph- early 1900s? (Mgraziano1)
>   7. Re: FW: Question for item #180019231614 - PerryComo-RCAVictor
>      Phonograph- early 1900s? (crankemup at comcast.net)
>   8. Help on locating posting (john robles)
>   9. Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie" performed by
>      Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997 (Walt Sommers)
>  10. Re: Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie" performedby
>      Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997 (Patriek Zanas)
>  11. Re: Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie" performedby
>      Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997 (bruce78rpm)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:21:13 -0500
> From: "Robert Wright" <esroberto at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
> Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY123-DAV59317A06AF484081E8C9CAA430 at phx.gbl>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Bless her heart.
>
> She did give me the 'two appraisers' silliness, but she seems nice enough.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <crankemup at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
> Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
>
>> You all will be pleased to know she dropped her price...........
>>
>> To $99.99!
>>
>> What a bargain.............
>>
>> Bill
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:01:19 -0500
> From: "Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12 at sigecom.net>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Edison C-1 and C-2 Pickup
> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
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> The diamond stylus is not for playing the shellac records. It is 
> permanently
> installed into the pickup, is offset slightly and used only to play 
> Diamond
> Discs. There is a conventional thumbscrew for inserting steel needles to
> play shellac records. When the steel needle is inserted it holds the 
> diamond
> above the record surface. Yes, the weight adjustment can be adjusted to
> raise the tonearm and stylus completely off the record surface.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:52:45 -0400
> From: "eug4not" <eug4not at bentongue.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Proper weight for Edison reproducer in
> radio/phonograph
> To: Phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Message-ID: <44E741DD.19590.24ED904 at eug4not.bentongue.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> In the Edison company's "Special Radio Service Bulletin #5", Section 10a 
> (1/221929) it is
> stated that the phonogragh will occasionally slow down on certain loud 
> notes if the weight on
> the diamond point or needle is too heavy. They further state that the this 
> problem may
> usually be corrected by reducing the weight on the stylus. An adjusting 
> screw for this
> purpose will be found near the pickup arm pivot. The correct weight on the 
> stylus point is 5
> ounces.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Tongue
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:35:13 -0400
> From: "Walt Sommers" <BoSommers at Adelphia.Net>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Message-ID: <007b01c6c3d7$5b155ef0$0200a8c0 at daddell>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I wonder if either of the 'two appraisers' has a name...
>
> This one seems to be an overenthusiastic seller with a misinformed sense 
> of
> value, and not a scam artist. They probably saw some rare recording sell 
> for
> megabucks in some other auction and figured that any old record might be
> worth big money. Nevertheless...caveat emptor...
>
> Here again is another reason why this list is valuable. Many of us know 
> the
> realities of the values of phonograph and related items, but there are
> probably dozens or more lurkers just watching who benefit from the
> education.
>
> Hats off to Loran again!
> Walt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Robert Wright
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 3:21 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
> Bless her heart.
>
> She did give me the 'two appraisers' silliness, but she seems nice enough.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <crankemup at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
> Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
>
>> You all will be pleased to know she dropped her price...........
>>
>> To $99.99!
>>
>> What a bargain.............
>>
>> Bill
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> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:52:42 -0500
> From: "Mgraziano1" <mgraziano1 at o-lite.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614
> -PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
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> " dozens or more lurkers just watching who benefit from the
> education"
>
> like me!!!  I've learned quite a bit in the 4 years (ish) I've been on the
> list.  I read almost every post!!
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walt Sommers [mailto:BoSommers at Adelphia.Net]
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:35 PM
> To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614
> -PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
> I wonder if either of the 'two appraisers' has a name...
>
> This one seems to be an overenthusiastic seller with a misinformed sense 
> of
> value, and not a scam artist. They probably saw some rare recording sell 
> for
> megabucks in some other auction and figured that any old record might be
> worth big money. Nevertheless...caveat emptor...
>
> Here again is another reason why this list is valuable. Many of us know 
> the
> realities of the values of phonograph and related items, but there are
> probably dozens or more lurkers just watching who benefit from the
> education.
>
> Hats off to Loran again!
> Walt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Robert Wright
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 3:21 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
> Bless her heart.
>
> She did give me the 'two appraisers' silliness, but she seems nice enough.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <crankemup at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
> Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
>
>> You all will be pleased to know she dropped her price...........
>>
>> To $99.99!
>>
>> What a bargain.............
>>
>> Bill
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:07:00 -0500
> From: "Mgraziano1" <mgraziano1 at o-lite.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
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> How do I get into this "appraiser" business?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Wright [mailto:esroberto at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
> Bless her heart.
>
> She did give me the 'two appraisers' silliness, but she seems nice enough.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <crankemup at comcast.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 - Perry
> Como-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
>
>
>> You all will be pleased to know she dropped her price...........
>>
>> To $99.99!
>>
>> What a bargain.............
>>
>> Bill
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:52:08 +0000
> From: crankemup at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] FW: Question for item #180019231614 -
> PerryComo-RCAVictor Phonograph- early 1900s?
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Make up some business cards, post them at supermarkets, etc and you too 
> can give people the "business" ,for a nominal fee of course!
>
> Bill
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:03:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: john robles <john9ten at pacbell.net>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Help on locating posting
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Message-ID: <20060820100348.43727.qmail at web83012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi All
>  There was a posting from someone (was it you, Diamonddiscman?) about a 
> huge project restoring a DD machine. it included straightening warped 
> doors, etc. He sent me a version in article form to be used in the GSPS 
> Record. I have lost the posting, and am hoping the author will see this 
> and send me the story again!! It has not yet shown up in the archives.
>  Thanks
>  john
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:31:03 -0400
> From: "Walt Sommers" <BoSommers at Adelphia.Net>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie"
> performed by Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Message-ID: <00bc01c6c45c$e20324d0$0200a8c0 at daddell>
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>
> I am trying to find an approximate value/level of rarity for a Victor
> Monarch Record: "Good Morning Carrie" performed by Williams and Walker -
> Victor No. 997. The condition is very good with no cracks or no nicks.
>
> Does anyone know the approximate value (i.e. range of values) for this
> record or is there a guru in the midst that might have a definitive guide 
> to
> record values that can help?
>
> If someone could reply either on or off list, I would be most thankful.
>
> Walt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:52:51 +0000
> From: "Patriek Zanas" <zanaspatriek at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie"
> performedby Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Message-ID: <BAY109-F20AEE095BFA32EB2025CFCD8400 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> Walt
>
> For 45 and 78rpm records, the best and/or most comprehensive value
> (indication) guide that I am aware exists is by Les Docks, but it tends to
> be skewed more to 45rpm.  A search on the net or ebay should provide you
> with further guidance.  Other members may chime in...please do...
>
> Regards
>
> Patriek
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Walt Sommers" <BoSommers at Adelphia.Net>
> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie" 
> performedby
> Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:31:03 -0400
>
> I am trying to find an approximate value/level of rarity for a Victor
> Monarch Record: "Good Morning Carrie" performed by Williams and Walker -
> Victor No. 997. The condition is very good with no cracks or no nicks.
>
> Does anyone know the approximate value (i.e. range of values) for this
> record or is there a guru in the midst that might have a definitive guide 
> to
> record values that can help?
>
> If someone could reply either on or off list, I would be most thankful.
>
> Walt
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:04:26 -0400
> From: "bruce78rpm" <bruce78rpm at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie"
> performedby Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Message-ID: <004c01c6c469$ee5efad0$6401a8c0 at Custom>
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>
> I know that there was one that attracted quite a bit of attention on the
> 78list a couple of years ago, and if I am not mistaken, it sold in the
> hundreds of dollars, but I can't recall the exact amount. Williams and
> Walker of course were one the first great Black acts to make it big on
> Broadway, and were a sensation,  featured in "all black" musicals back
> around the turn of the last century. Their records on Victor are extremely
> rare. When Walker died, Burt Williams went on to be one of the leading 
> draws
> for the Ziegfeld Follies from about 1911 until his death in the early 
> 1920's
> and recorded many sides for Columbia during that time including his
> signature song "Nobody". "When I was in that Railroad wreck, and thought 
> I'd
> cashed in my "last check"! Who took the Engine off my neck? NOBODY!!
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walt Sommers" <BoSommers at Adelphia.Net>
> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Monarch Record - "Good Morning Carrie" 
> performedby
> Williams and Walker - Victor No. 997
>
>
>>I am trying to find an approximate value/level of rarity for a Victor
>> Monarch Record: "Good Morning Carrie" performed by Williams and Walker -
>> Victor No. 997. The condition is very good with no cracks or no nicks.
>>
>> Does anyone know the approximate value (i.e. range of values) for this
>> record or is there a guru in the midst that might have a definitive guide
>> to
>> record values that can help?
>>
>> If someone could reply either on or off list, I would be most thankful.
>>
>> Walt
>>
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